No way we win these games in the past. Give thins and players much credit deserved. Team has guts
we have the league's best defense and not a single defensive star. Maybe Mitch or Noel are elite rim protectors but neither are being mistaken for Ben Wallace. Not bad for an antiquated retread
of a coach
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...Think this season has seen a record number of flips and u-turns from you
for me this has been one of the calmest, drama free seasons-I was sure we'd be a disaster before the season began, but after it started I was pleasantly surprised.weve been pretty consistent so far, solid. But if we bottom out we have our pick. It's been a really fun, rewarding season so far. For a long time all we wanted was a team that competed, developed its young players and played hard-been nice to see it happen!
smackeddog wrote:http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...Think this season has seen a record number of flips and u-turns from you for me this has been one of the calmest, drama free seasons-I was sure we'd be a disaster before the season began, but after it started I was pleasantly surprised.weve been pretty consistent so far, solid. But if we bottom out we have our pick. It's been a really fun, rewarding season so far. For a long time all we wanted was a team that competed, developed its young players and played hard-been nice to see it happen!
We’re .5 so I’m gonna be 50-50
smackeddog wrote:http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...Think this season has seen a record number of flips and u-turns from you for me this has been one of the calmest, drama free seasons-I was sure we'd be a disaster before the season began, but after it started I was pleasantly surprised.weve been pretty consistent so far, solid. But if we bottom out we have our pick. It's been a really fun, rewarding season so far. For a long time all we wanted was a team that competed, developed its young players and played hard-been nice to see it happen!
this is me. Just fight and be in it. Best part is you get to see how these guys look in games that matter. We def have a couple blue chips in RJ/Randle and a squad that plays hard every night. Hopefully the FO can execute and keep building this thing up
The Knicks teams I loved under Hubie Brown, Pat Riley, Jeff Van Gundy were blue collar, defensive minded, ugly winning playoff teams. Looks like that’s what we have here. No quit grit.
KnickDanger wrote:The Knicks teams I loved under Hubie Brown, Pat Riley, Jeff Van Gundy were blue collar, defensive minded, ugly winning playoff teams. Looks like that’s what we have here. No quit grit.
Don't forget Don Chaney! I think all of those coaches managed to get more out of the roster than the talent would have indicated.
We might actually have more talent potential than any of those coaches ever had.
franco12 wrote:KnickDanger wrote:The Knicks teams I loved under Hubie Brown, Pat Riley, Jeff Van Gundy were blue collar, defensive minded, ugly winning playoff teams. Looks like that’s what we have here. No quit grit.
Don't forget Don Chaney! I think all of those coaches managed to get more out of the roster than the talent would have indicated.
We might actually have more talent potential than any of those coaches ever had.
We are not mortgaging the future to make an thin run like we did leading up to 2012. When your rely on JR smith and a resurgent Bargnani to carry forward with Amare in steep decline we were screwed and we all knew it.
Front office to the back, the coaches and players this team has been a drama free one and a culture of normalcy. The past won’t change but decisions have been made at are working out.
Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Which nobody predicted we would be.
With cap space, draft capital, flexibility to continue to improve.
Top 3 lotto pick, 20 yr old RJ Barrett continuing to get better, doing work in the 4th.
newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Which nobody predicted we would be.
With cap space, draft capital, flexibility to continue to improve.
Top 3 lotto pick, 20 yr old RJ Barrett continuing to get better, doing work in the 4th.
Knicks had a .318 winning percentage last year. We are now just above .500. Should we have gone straight from .318 to double at .636? Or higher? Are these the expectations?
knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Your posts are generally a “glass half empty” kind of guy. You frequently post after losses.
So enjoying the ride?
franco12 wrote:KnickDanger wrote:The Knicks teams I loved under Hubie Brown, Pat Riley, Jeff Van Gundy were blue collar, defensive minded, ugly winning playoff teams. Looks like that’s what we have here. No quit grit.
Don't forget Don Chaney! I think all of those coaches managed to get more out of the roster than the talent would have indicated.
We might actually have more talent potential than any of those coaches ever had.
Definitely we have more talent than the roster under Van Gundy’s last year after Ewing was traded and LJ was finished
Philc1 wrote:KnickDanger wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Which nobody predicted we would be.
With cap space, draft capital, flexibility to continue to improve.
Top 3 lotto pick, 20 yr old RJ Barrett continuing to get better, doing work in the 4th.
Knicks had a .318 winning percentage last year. We are now just above .500. Should we have gone straight from .318 to double at .636? Or higher? Are these the expectations?
Max Kellerman logic
I think Max Kellerman’s “logic” is the audio equivalent of clickbait.
Reversal vs Memphis key
Down most of game
Down 13 under 6
Down 6 w 1 minute
Won
newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Which nobody predicted we would be.
With cap space, draft capital, flexibility to continue to improve.
Top 3 lotto pick, 20 yr old RJ Barrett continuing to get better, doing work in the 4th.
I predicted 37 to 42 wins, while mostly everybody else in that thread went no higher than 30/31 wins.
Cap space and flexibility (which we have had the last 2 off season) have proven to be useful to us yet
Part of issue is that They're are almost no bad contracts in the NBA like they're used to be...Noah and Deng where the last of that era.
knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Which nobody predicted we would be.
With cap space, draft capital, flexibility to continue to improve.
Top 3 lotto pick, 20 yr old RJ Barrett continuing to get better, doing work in the 4th.
I predicted 37 to 42 wins, while mostly everybody else in that thread went no higher than 30/31 wins.
Cap space and flexibility (which we have had the last 2 off season) have proven to be useful to us yet
Part of issue is that They're are almost no bad contracts in the NBA like they're used to be...Noah and Deng where the last of that era.
In that thread, I said anything north of 30 wins with this team would be gravy. I'll stand by that while enjoying the obvious progress this team has shown on the floor, on the sidelines, and in the front office.
knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Which nobody predicted we would be.
With cap space, draft capital, flexibility to continue to improve.
Top 3 lotto pick, 20 yr old RJ Barrett continuing to get better, doing work in the 4th.
I predicted 37 to 42 wins, while mostly everybody else in that thread went no higher than 30/31 wins.
Cap space and flexibility (which we have had the last 2 off season) have proven to be useful to us yet
Part of issue is that They're are almost no bad contracts in the NBA like they're used to be...Noah and Deng where the last of that era.
You do tend to guess higher number of wins every season for some reason.
Doesn't matter if we had cap space and flexibility for the last 2 off-seasons. What mattered were the options presented before the team and the decisions made. Properly evaluating Randle's value is what netted a positive signing. Even if he didn't become the player he became today, the value and contract was still really good. Trading Morris for the draft picks was also another move that was properly evaluated. Netted first round pick(Quickley), Detroits 2nd(currently the #33). As well as freeing up on average 16mil per yr in extension cost. Traded Morris picked up 2 possible long term pieces yet still able to hold a better record than last season. Alec Burk, Reggie Bullock, Nerlens Noel & even Elfrid Payton have all outplayed the contracts given to them. Thus also making them quality signings.
If they continue to make the proper evaluations with the assets, flexibility, cap space they hold. They will continue to be able to build a stronger team. That goes with the contracts offered if they look to retain players. Or if they look to upgrade from them. Either way, Knicks are in position to explore and capitalize on almost any option presented to them. While still fielding a competitive team.
newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Ups and downs but enjoying the ride!
Yeah that pretty much the case with a 500 team
Which nobody predicted we would be.
With cap space, draft capital, flexibility to continue to improve.
Top 3 lotto pick, 20 yr old RJ Barrett continuing to get better, doing work in the 4th.
I predicted 37 to 42 wins, while mostly everybody else in that thread went no higher than 30/31 wins.
Cap space and flexibility (which we have had the last 2 off season) have proven to be useful to us yet
Part of issue is that They're are almost no bad contracts in the NBA like they're used to be...Noah and Deng where the last of that era.
You do tend to guess higher number of wins every season for some reason.
Doesn't matter if we had cap space and flexibility for the last 2 off-seasons. What mattered were the options presented before the team and the decisions made. Properly evaluating Randle's value is what netted a positive signing. Even if he didn't become the player he became today, the value and contract was still really good. Trading Morris for the draft picks was also another move that was properly evaluated. Netted first round pick(Quickley), Detroits 2nd(currently the #33). As well as freeing up on average 16mil per yr in extension cost. Traded Morris picked up 2 possible long term pieces yet still able to hold a better record than last season. Alec Burk, Reggie Bullock, Nerlens Noel & even Elfrid Payton have all outplayed the contracts given to them. Thus also making them quality signings.
If they continue to make the proper evaluations with the assets, flexibility, cap space they hold. They will continue to be able to build a stronger team. That goes with the contracts offered if they look to retain players. Or if they look to upgrade from them. Either way, Knicks are in position to explore and capitalize on almost any option presented to them. While still fielding a competitive team.
I agree with you, but I honestly feel like the best thing the knicks did was assemble a top of line Coaching staff.
Other than MDA, i have been critical of every coaching staff we have had since JVG, but I knew from jump, before a single practice that this was the coaching staff to take us to the next level.
If Morris had stayed and resign, we would have still been in good shape, and also would have Drafted Haliburton, and maybe still got IQ in the early 2nd round.
It's all good though, there's no DYNASTY team in the Eastern conference so with the right moves this off season, I can see us jumping to Eastern conference contenders next yr, if we can maintain the coaching staff
