Knicks · It's probably time to move Knox (page 2)

It's 21, had decent production his first year.

He is certainly buried on the depth chat, but he has a smooth stroke.

If he could become a 6'9" version of Hubert Davis, he'd have a decent future.

There is no guarantee the guys in front of him won't get hurt.

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

NYKMentality wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:I don't see the benefit to moving him just yet.

The benefit of moving him ASAP is so we don't lose him for absolutely nothingness (as we did with Frank Ntilikina).

There is no room on this roster for him because he's now the 13th man behind Kemba Walker, R.J. Barrett, Evan Fournier, Julius Randle, Mitchell Robinson, Derrick Rose, Immanuel Quickley, Alec Burks, Obi Toppin, Nerlens Noel and both Miles McBride/Quentin Grimes. He won't even be able to avenge 2-4 minutes per game.

Last year throughout 5 playoff games vs. Atlanta and with a much weaker roster Tom Thibs refused to play him. Because Thibs doesn't like him. Thibs only played Kevin Knox a combined 3 minutes throughout the entire Atlanta series and those 3:30 minutes of playing time came during a 17 point blowout.

If you can move Kevin Knox? Right now? For a 2nd round pick? You pull the trigger immediately and celebrate while doing so.

I question what we can actually get for Kev alone. Who's giving up their 2nd rounder for him? What's the actual value of pick 52 in the draft - we going to cry if we miss out on that?

I think we're better off holding for now and using him as filler. If we find ourselves at the deadline looking at Damian Lilliard or another player (who knows who we may look at with Kemba/Rose on board now), we've got to give up bodies and salary. I see Kev more valuable as a contract filler/expiring contract (who just so happens to be a 22 year old former lottery pick). He brings something different as a trade stuffer than what else we have and would be willing to offer today. Let's say we miss out on a 2nd rounder for him, we still have plenty we can package in a trade that it won't break the deal.

franco12 wrote:it's not time to move him, but we have to figure out if we can turn him into a player or not.

It's 21, had decent production his first year.

He is certainly buried on the depth chat, but he has a smooth stroke.

If he could become a 6'9" version of Hubert Davis, he'd have a decent future.

There is no guarantee the guys in front of him won't get hurt.

For what it's worth, after falling out of the rotation, he managed to claw his way back and get a handful of looks at the end of the seasons. This is on a Tom Thibodeau team that was still fighting for playoff position. Tells me he must have been doing something right in practice.

Would like to see another training camp with this staff.

franco12 wrote:it's not time to move him, but we have to figure out if we can turn him into a player or not.

It's 21, had decent production his first year.

He is certainly buried on the depth chat, but he has a smooth stroke.

If he could become a 6'9" version of Hubert Davis, he'd have a decent future.

There is no guarantee the guys in front of him won't get hurt.

Davis for all his shortcomings was actually a decent defender. Knox can’t guard a parking meter

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

Due diligence trying to see what’s out there in the market. Pacers probably demanded RJ, Mitch and picks. F that

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

He fits the teams so damn well.

Philc1 wrote:

franco12 wrote:it's not time to move him, but we have to figure out if we can turn him into a player or not.

It's 21, had decent production his first year.

He is certainly buried on the depth chat, but he has a smooth stroke.

If he could become a 6'9" version of Hubert Davis, he'd have a decent future.

There is no guarantee the guys in front of him won't get hurt.

Davis for all his shortcomings was actually a decent defender. Knox can’t guard a parking meter

players from that time tended in general to play better defense.

I think he got better last year. He's 21. He has a really smooth stroke on his shot, and could become a lethal 3pt shooter for us.

I don't see him stopping us from signing anyone.

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

He fits the teams so damn well.

At 25 (I can't believe he is that young. I feel like he has been around for 10 years), Mitch, Knox, and Obi for Turner and a 2nd?

To be clear, I wouldprefer to send a future first than Obi, but gotta make the money work, and the only way to do that is Obi.

joec32033 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

He fits the teams so damn well.

At 25 (I can't believe he is that young. I feel like he has been around for 10 years), Mitch, Knox, and Obi for Turner and a 2nd?

To be clear, I wouldprefer to send a future first than Obi, but gotta make the money work, and the only way to do that is Obi.

As long as Randle is here, toppin won’t be able to shine, unless he learns to play C, but is not a rin protector and will get absused on D.

Turner gives us a different dimension in our center position, with his offensive arsenal and being an elite shot blocker too.

Trading them toppin, moves sabonis to the 5, while Robinson can be the back up to him there and allows them also to play warren at the 4

joec32033 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

He fits the teams so damn well.

At 25 (I can't believe he is that young. I feel like he has been around for 10 years), Mitch, Knox, and Obi for Turner and a 2nd?

To be clear, I wouldprefer to send a future first than Obi, but gotta make the money work, and the only way to do that is Obi.

His shooting would open the post for Randle and RJ while stil providing elite rim protection on the other end. Myles is what I was hoping Mitch would turn into

fishmike wrote:Knox is an expiring contract. If we dont move him by the deadline I am guessing they let him walk for a chance to get minutes somewhere. He's making $6mm so a team that takes him is gonna have to send us something back. I dont see that

I wouldn't rule getting a useful vet for him. We would probably have to throw in a 2nd. Some team may want to shed a 2 year deal for extra cap space next season

Philc1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

Due diligence trying to see what’s out there in the market. Pacers probably demanded RJ, Mitch and picks. F that

Any team can demand anything...it is what theater team is willing to pay. I do not see th trading him until the deadline when 1/2 the league is trying to make moves. Now with the play in games..3/4 of the league

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:Knox is an expiring contract. If we dont move him by the deadline I am guessing they let him walk for a chance to get minutes somewhere. He's making $6mm so a team that takes him is gonna have to send us something back. I dont see that

I wouldn't rule getting a useful vet for him. We would probably have to throw in a 2nd. Some team may want to shed a 2 year deal for extra cap space next season

The thing with Knox is that he is long and can stroke it and young. Teams can talk themselves into giving up a low 2nd. Us giving up anything to get him off the books is malpractice. He wl either be glued to the bench or wd40 on a larger trade. The only messed up thing is that if he had a good summer league that would have incrementally raised his value.

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:Knox is an expiring contract. If we dont move him by the deadline I am guessing they let him walk for a chance to get minutes somewhere. He's making $6mm so a team that takes him is gonna have to send us something back. I dont see that

I wouldn't rule getting a useful vet for him. We would probably have to throw in a 2nd. Some team may want to shed a 2 year deal for extra cap space next season

If we perform well early in the season, we can get a vet from the buyout market. If we can’t get The turner trade, I’d trade Knox to okc for some draft picks, use those to add to our picks for an eventual trade for a potential star

ekstarks94 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

Due diligence trying to see what’s out there in the market. Pacers probably demanded RJ, Mitch and picks. F that

Any team can demand anything...it is what theater team is willing to pay. I do not see th trading him until the deadline when 1/2 the league is trying to make moves. Now with the play in games..3/4 of the league

Pacers aren’t desperate to move Turner. They don’t make rash decisions even if he’s demanding a trade behind the scenes they aren’t run that way

Philc1 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

Due diligence trying to see what’s out there in the market. Pacers probably demanded RJ, Mitch and picks. F that

Any team can demand anything...it is what theater team is willing to pay. I do not see th trading him until the deadline when 1/2 the league is trying to make moves. Now with the play in games..3/4 of the league

Pacers aren’t desperate to move Turner. They don’t make rash decisions even if he’s demanding a trade behind the scenes they aren’t run that way

I think they will end up trading him...Sabonis is getting all of the love....he may want to be able to have his own "team" so to speak...I can see them making a move if they are 5 or worse seed but I think it would be at the deadline unless someone gives them their price now. And for that 13th pick it sounded like they wanted a boatload for...

ekstarks94 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:Said it in the other thread, a trade with Mitch, toppin and few seconds to the pacers for turner would be ideal

Turner makes sense for this squad but the front office probably has a bigger target in mind.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...

If the Indiana Pacers decide to move on from Myles Turner, at least one Eastern Conference playoff team is reportedly ready to make a deal.

Per J. Michael of the Indianapolis Star, the New York Knicks have been "trying hard" to get the Pacers to trade Turner.

Michael noted the Pacers "don't seem in a hurry to bust up their core" heading into the start of free agency this week.

Turner's name has frequently come up in trade speculation for a number of years, yet no offers have presented themselves to get the Pacers to move on from the veteran center.

Sounds like the Pacers are bluffing

Due diligence trying to see what’s out there in the market. Pacers probably demanded RJ, Mitch and picks. F that

Any team can demand anything...it is what theater team is willing to pay. I do not see th trading him until the deadline when 1/2 the league is trying to make moves. Now with the play in games..3/4 of the league

Pacers aren’t desperate to move Turner. They don’t make rash decisions even if he’s demanding a trade behind the scenes they aren’t run that way

I think they will end up trading him...Sabonis is getting all of the love....he may want to be able to have his own "team" so to speak...I can see them making a move if they are 5 or worse seed but I think it would be at the deadline unless someone gives them their price now. And for that 13th pick it sounded like they wanted a boatload for...

Eventually they will have to trade Turner. Pacers rebuild not by tanking but by trading star players at the right time to get the next set of star players

He is not completely worthless. He can shoot the 3 from the corner 😅