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If they stay put at 11, im kinda excited if they can get any one of these players; Dyson Daniel, Bennedict Mathurin or Jeremy Sochan.

But drafting Sochan will further complicate the PF rotation unless they made up their mind to trade Randle.

Not sure if its true but Berman said the Obi was able to finally win over Thibs. If the FO cant get a good deal for Randle in the offseason maybe we can just see him as a supersub 6th man in this roster.i might be ok with that as long as Obi gets atlease 25mins or if Randle has those disappearing performances i hope thibs is now open to glue Randle's behind on the bench.

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These guys are definitely in play. I think Wiz would lean Dyson before any other guard in our range.

Trying to think what teams that are ahead of the Knicks will do, especially those teams outside of what many consider the top 6 picks. Portland, Pelicans, Spurs, Washington. Feel like Portland has a high probability of trading that pick for guy to fit Dame's timeline. I think Pelicans and Washington will pick players they think are closer to contributing. Spurs always seem to just pick best talent regardless of everything.

Feel like Mathurin and Johnny Davis are more ready to produce now and Daniels may be a couple years away from really contributing.

I'm hoping Daniels falls to Knicks.

I think Mathurin needs more time than Davis, but may have a higher ceiling. I'll trust Perrin to figure it out. Dyson could potentially fill so many needs with playmaking and perimeter defense that you can see many teams, especially the ones who already have established scorers, taking a stab. My concern is if Sharpe breaks the top 5. It cause teams to start making a run on wings earlier than anticipated.

The one thing I had in mind with Sochan is you have to believe this offense will eventually hit.

And then you would also believe his defense is top notch AND maybe he can eventually start at SF while also being able to swing to PF and small ball 5?

I don't think he is necessarily a PF but I dont know much either

Jimbo5 wrote:If they stay put at 11, im kinda excited if they can get any one of these players; Dyson Daniel, Bennedict Mathurin or Jeremy Sochan.

But drafting Sochan will further complicate the PF rotation unless they made up their mind to trade Randle.

Not sure if its true but Berman said the Obi was able to finally win over Thibs. If the FO cant get a good deal for Randle in the offseason maybe we can just see him as a supersub 6th man in this roster.i might be ok with that as long as Obi gets atlease 25mins or if Randle has those disappearing performances i hope thibs is now open to glue Randle's behind on the bench.

wargames wrote:I could see Mathurin being the “move up” target and Daniels being the “stay at #11” target. It says a lot that Dyson was talking to teams who mostly draft after the Knicks. His shot isn’t great and he isn’t a crazy athlete. Mathurin is the better player but he should be gone way before 11. Knicks are ripe to move up, but that deal requires two and teams may not want to move back for what the Knicks are willing to move up.

I like Sochan, but they have to be really confident he can play SF because if he is a PF they are stuck with a guy who won’t get minutes. PF is the position the legitimately need the least.

martin wrote:The one thing I had in mind with Sochan is you have to believe this offense will eventually hit.

And then you would also believe his defense is top notch AND maybe he can eventually start at SF while also being able to swing to PF and small ball 5?

I don't think he is necessarily a PF but I dont know much either

I'd say he's most definitely a four/five with the ability to switch 2-5 defensively, depending on the matchup. The jumper is the swing skill, but he's a smart cutter and solid passer. I'd think hed find his way on the floor, even as a rookie.

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martin wrote:The one thing I had in mind with Sochan is you have to believe this offense will eventually hit.

And then you would also believe his defense is top notch AND maybe he can eventually start at SF while also being able to swing to PF and small ball 5?

I don't think he is necessarily a PF but I dont know much either

I'd say he's most definitely a four/five with the ability to switch 2-5 defensively, depending on the matchup. The jumper is the swing skill, but he's a smart cutter and solid passer. I'd think hed find his way on the floor, even as a rookie.

Man, Sochan doesn't look like he is even participating in Draft Combine. Wonder why

martin wrote:

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martin wrote:The one thing I had in mind with Sochan is you have to believe this offense will eventually hit.

And then you would also believe his defense is top notch AND maybe he can eventually start at SF while also being able to swing to PF and small ball 5?

I don't think he is necessarily a PF but I dont know much either

I'd say he's most definitely a four/five with the ability to switch 2-5 defensively, depending on the matchup. The jumper is the swing skill, but he's a smart cutter and solid passer. I'd think hed find his way on the floor, even as a rookie.

Man, Sochan doesn't look like he is even participating in Draft Combine. Wonder why

Wouldn't be surprised if a team made him a promise. I don't think there's much he can do to drastically change his draft stock anyway.

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martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:The one thing I had in mind with Sochan is you have to believe this offense will eventually hit.

And then you would also believe his defense is top notch AND maybe he can eventually start at SF while also being able to swing to PF and small ball 5?

I don't think he is necessarily a PF but I dont know much either

I'd say he's most definitely a four/five with the ability to switch 2-5 defensively, depending on the matchup. The jumper is the swing skill, but he's a smart cutter and solid passer. I'd think hed find his way on the floor, even as a rookie.

Man, Sochan doesn't look like he is even participating in Draft Combine. Wonder why

Wouldn't be surprised if a team made him a promise. I don't think there's much he can do to drastically change his draft stock anyway.

Some shooting drills would help but it’s a risk

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martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:The one thing I had in mind with Sochan is you have to believe this offense will eventually hit.

And then you would also believe his defense is top notch AND maybe he can eventually start at SF while also being able to swing to PF and small ball 5?

I don't think he is necessarily a PF but I dont know much either

I'd say he's most definitely a four/five with the ability to switch 2-5 defensively, depending on the matchup. The jumper is the swing skill, but he's a smart cutter and solid passer. I'd think hed find his way on the floor, even as a rookie.

Man, Sochan doesn't look like he is even participating in Draft Combine. Wonder why

Wouldn't be surprised if a team made him a promise. I don't think there's much he can do to drastically change his draft stock anyway.

Some shooting drills would help but it’s a risk

Right, there is only downside for him to participate there unless he makes everything

This kid is getting some buzz..

BigDaddyG wrote:This kid is getting some buzz..

Why is he getting buzz, didn't quite stand out to me but I haven't watched closely

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:This kid is getting some buzz..

Why is he getting buzz, didn't quite stand out to me but I haven't watched closely

Had a good combine.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:This kid is getting some buzz..

Why is he getting buzz, didn't quite stand out to me but I haven't watched closely

Had a good combine.

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Is there a chance the knicks will sign Kai Sotto as an undrafted player to take the place of Sims once Sims is promoted to the regular roster? Could he be a poor man's KP without the A--hole personality? He is not projected to be drafted but has a dozen workout lined up from different teams including the knicks. I know he is a worker in 2 years or so he was able to bulk up, no longer a skinny beanbole but still needs to add strength. With how the knicks staff developed mitch's body, I hope if he gets to sign with the knicksthe staff can develop his body further as well.

Jimbo5 wrote:Is there a chance the knicks will sign Kai Sotto as an undrafted player to take the place of Sims once Sims is promoted to the regular roster? Could he be a poor man's KP without the A--hole personality? He is not projected to be drafted but has a dozen workout lined up from different teams including the knicks. I know he is a worker in 2 years or so he was able to bulk up, no longer a skinny beanbole but still needs to add strength. With how the knicks staff developed mitch's body, I hope if he gets to sign with the knicksthe staff can develop his body further as well.

He appears to be slow and soft to me. I don't think it would be a big deal if they signed as UFA, but I wouldn't expect much.

i hope the Knicks are prioritizing brains and heart. I want an alpha who rises to the moment

Chandler wrote:i hope the Knicks are prioritizing brains and heart. I want an alpha who has the courage to rise rises to the moment

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So you're still saying there is a chance at Ivey

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https://theathletic.com/3323222/2022/05/...

Who should go No. 1 in the NBA Draft? We asked Eric Musselman to rank the top 3 candidates
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something so exceptionally that Musselman is confident they will succeed as pros.

In 2017, after his Nevada team faced Markelle Fultz at Washington (and won), he was not at all convinced he’d just seen the eventual No. 1 pick. In fact, he was “absolutely shocked” when it went down that way on draft night.

“Having coached in the NBA, I didn’t even think he was a first-round pick, let alone the No. 1 pick,” Musselman said. “But the most interesting thing about this process is how much research the winning teams that draft so well truly do, and on the flip side how little some others do. The only teams who called me about Fultz were the winning teams. Anyone who asked, I could’ve told them that was a mistake. If you cannot help your college team win, there should be a concern — unless it’s a guy like Anthony Edwards, who had no pieces around him but just stood out so much physically — and that’s what I love about these three guys this year. They won at a high, high, high level.”

Unlike Fultz, and despite Georgia’s struggles in 2020, Musselman had zero doubt that the Timberwolves made the right call taking Edwards No. 1 that year.

“I watched the layup line when we played Georgia and could tell you, ‘This guy is a bona fide starter right out of the gate,’” Musselman said. “That night, we had no answer for Edwards. He was bionic. He was superhuman. The lift on his jump shot, he was getting off the ground like three feet higher than our guys, it felt like, and we couldn’t even contest his shot. We could not bother him. His strength and his athleticism, it was just different than everybody else. That’s what you’re looking for at No. 1. And you can argue all three of the guys this year have it.”

But one of them has to come off the board first. So in what order would Musselman go after scouting, game-planning and facing each of them? It’s Banchero, Smith, then Holmgren for him.

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still tiny.

Still the best option at 11 by far

No more wing players who are mediocre shooters

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Good for the kid, dammit for the Knicks

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