Knixkik wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:ramtour420 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Who will you sit for Grimes?
E motherfu$king F
We need to give OKC a call
And do what? Trade picks to dump him and ready to start Grimes after one start? Think thats a bit of a logical move or an emotional fanboy move who craves change? you lose picks, and you don’t now that Grimes is the answer.
Nobody here goes far to make a case with analytics or understands the full scope of the decision. We think we can do better or at least match the losing with our suggestions. “Being right” is important.
Nalod would welcome any change that turns this thing around. But give props to a fan who throw out 20 things and one sticks without any accountability to the other 19 things that were not unique and change the outcome?
Elf was a glue guy. Evident to the winning. I have no issue with us moving on. same with EF signing outside shooting vs Derozen. 25 games in the dynammic of the Bulls vs knicks is not the same. Way different constructions. Its not working here and randle looks awful. whats the response? Think Reggie was the missing piece? RJ is the SF. We needed a SG. EF is not panning out but the idea was decent. The execution is not there yet if to be. Blow it up? Thats not logical. Get Dolan to make a dumb move? Thats logical. Think the media is helping shape ideas by fueling anger?
Its sucks. But read the aggregate of many posts. Blow it up, dump thibs, get a star/savior, Dump Randle, etc. Derozen looks good with Vooch and Lavine with a ball distributer in Lonzo. They are “win now” and the reality is they traded their long future and we grade it a success after 25 games because we are fading. I get it.
Knicks need to stick with Fournier for better or for worse. He was a commitment and 27 games still isn’t enough to make a definite determination for the future. But having Grimes whether starting or off the bench long term is a great piece to have. If Grimes becomes that 3&D player we lacked who fits like a glove with Randle and Barrett, and Fournier fits more as a bench scorer with more freedom to make plays, than it’s a huge win and Fournier can still be worth his contract.
Well than the coaching staff needs to do something about it, because he looks lost out there.
I praise the coaching staff last season, but this season the game plan sucks.
knicks1248 wrote:Knixkik wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:ramtour420 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Who will you sit for Grimes?
E motherfu$king F
We need to give OKC a call
And do what? Trade picks to dump him and ready to start Grimes after one start? Think thats a bit of a logical move or an emotional fanboy move who craves change? you lose picks, and you don’t now that Grimes is the answer.
Nobody here goes far to make a case with analytics or understands the full scope of the decision. We think we can do better or at least match the losing with our suggestions. “Being right” is important.
Nalod would welcome any change that turns this thing around. But give props to a fan who throw out 20 things and one sticks without any accountability to the other 19 things that were not unique and change the outcome?
Elf was a glue guy. Evident to the winning. I have no issue with us moving on. same with EF signing outside shooting vs Derozen. 25 games in the dynammic of the Bulls vs knicks is not the same. Way different constructions. Its not working here and randle looks awful. whats the response? Think Reggie was the missing piece? RJ is the SF. We needed a SG. EF is not panning out but the idea was decent. The execution is not there yet if to be. Blow it up? Thats not logical. Get Dolan to make a dumb move? Thats logical. Think the media is helping shape ideas by fueling anger?
Its sucks. But read the aggregate of many posts. Blow it up, dump thibs, get a star/savior, Dump Randle, etc. Derozen looks good with Vooch and Lavine with a ball distributer in Lonzo. They are “win now” and the reality is they traded their long future and we grade it a success after 25 games because we are fading. I get it.
Knicks need to stick with Fournier for better or for worse. He was a commitment and 27 games still isn’t enough to make a definite determination for the future. But having Grimes whether starting or off the bench long term is a great piece to have. If Grimes becomes that 3&D player we lacked who fits like a glove with Randle and Barrett, and Fournier fits more as a bench scorer with more freedom to make plays, than it’s a huge win and Fournier can still be worth his contract.
Well than the coaching staff needs to do something about it, because he looks lost out there.
I praise the coaching staff last season, but this season the game plan sucks.
Not for nothing but the whole starting line up looks lost. But you just can't yank them all at once.
It started with Kemba. Let's see how Thibs manages the protocol and missing players
martin wrote:
Is this list that assuring? Two of those guys were out the league after a few season and the other guy, Langston, turned into a deep reserve. 
I like Grimes tho, and hope he keeps it up.
i love our youth. would watch a team every night that featured obi, rj, quick, grimes, deuce and sims. not interested in watching the rest of our roster.
was down with our off-season moves. saw enough of how it was playing out to move on.
love that we've retained our draft picks and picked some others up. intrigued by rokas and luka.
this season will take a lot of improvising by the coach, players and FO.
keep experimenting, keep moving forward, keep flexible and keep getting youthier.
Marv wrote:i love our youth. would watch a team every night that featured obi, rj, quick, grimes, deuce and sims. not interested in watching the rest of our roster.was down with our off-season moves. saw enough of how it was playing out to move on.
love that we've retained our draft picks and picked some others up. intrigued by rokas and luka.
this season will take a lot of improvising by the coach, players and FO.
keep experimenting, keep moving forward, keep flexible and keep getting youthier.
What, and at only 23 years of age you consider Jericho Sims "youth", but not Mitchell Robinson as youth?
Because they are BOTH 23 years of age...
NYKMentality wrote:Marv wrote:i love our youth. would watch a team every night that featured obi, rj, quick, grimes, deuce and sims. not interested in watching the rest of our roster.was down with our off-season moves. saw enough of how it was playing out to move on.
love that we've retained our draft picks and picked some others up. intrigued by rokas and luka.
this season will take a lot of improvising by the coach, players and FO.
keep experimenting, keep moving forward, keep flexible and keep getting youthier.
What, and at only 23 years of age you consider Jericho Sims "youth", but not Mitchell Robinson as youth?
Because they are BOTH 23 years of age...
not believing in his future so hard any more
I wanted to start the season having Grimes on D.Rose 2nd unit lineup along with Quickley, Obi, and Taj Gibson.
Recall .. In the last 3 Knicks summer league games in the offseason Quickley, Obi, and Grimes performance were at the NBA level of talent and consistency.
As a coach, I would've exploited Grimes performance after Dec 15. in the starter lineup, after trading RJ Barrett.
Nalod wrote:Knixkik wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:ramtour420 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Who will you sit for Grimes?
E motherfu$king F
We need to give OKC a call
And do what? Trade picks to dump him and ready to start Grimes after one start? Think thats a bit of a logical move or an emotional fanboy move who craves change? you lose picks, and you don’t now that Grimes is the answer.
Nobody here goes far to make a case with analytics or understands the full scope of the decision. We think we can do better or at least match the losing with our suggestions. “Being right” is important.
Nalod would welcome any change that turns this thing around. But give props to a fan who throw out 20 things and one sticks without any accountability to the other 19 things that were not unique and change the outcome?
Elf was a glue guy. Evident to the winning. I have no issue with us moving on. same with EF signing outside shooting vs Derozen. 25 games in the dynammic of the Bulls vs knicks is not the same. Way different constructions. Its not working here and randle looks awful. whats the response? Think Reggie was the missing piece? RJ is the SF. We needed a SG. EF is not panning out but the idea was decent. The execution is not there yet if to be. Blow it up? Thats not logical. Get Dolan to make a dumb move? Thats logical. Think the media is helping shape ideas by fueling anger?
Its sucks. But read the aggregate of many posts. Blow it up, dump thibs, get a star/savior, Dump Randle, etc. Derozen looks good with Vooch and Lavine with a ball distributer in Lonzo. They are “win now” and the reality is they traded their long future and we grade it a success after 25 games because we are fading. I get it.
Knicks need to stick with Fournier for better or for worse. He was a commitment and 27 games still isn’t enough to make a definite determination for the future. But having Grimes whether starting or off the bench long term is a great piece to have. If Grimes becomes that 3&D player we lacked who fits like a glove with Randle and Barrett, and Fournier fits more as a bench scorer with more freedom to make plays, than it’s a huge win and Fournier can still be worth his contract.
Well said and more rooted to reality.
The Knicks head coach and FO are still a MISSMANAGEMENT organization, that refuse to admit the super big mistakes they made in the offseason during the draft & FA market.
Randle played 37 minutes and only took 8 shot attempts vs championship Bucks team!
Grimes & Knox excessive playing time minute in the Bucks game were the Knicks exploiting the two players as trade bait for Dec 15 !!!
Marv wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Marv wrote:i love our youth. would watch a team every night that featured obi, rj, quick, grimes, deuce and sims. not interested in watching the rest of our roster.was down with our off-season moves. saw enough of how it was playing out to move on.
love that we've retained our draft picks and picked some others up. intrigued by rokas and luka.
this season will take a lot of improvising by the coach, players and FO.
keep experimenting, keep moving forward, keep flexible and keep getting youthier.
What, and at only 23 years of age you consider Jericho Sims "youth", but not Mitchell Robinson as youth?
Because they are BOTH 23 years of age...
not believing in his future so hard any more
it's unfortunate but I am almost there myself
Kemet wrote:Nalod wrote:Knixkik wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:ramtour420 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Who will you sit for Grimes?
E motherfu$king F
We need to give OKC a call
And do what? Trade picks to dump him and ready to start Grimes after one start? Think thats a bit of a logical move or an emotional fanboy move who craves change? you lose picks, and you don’t now that Grimes is the answer.
Nobody here goes far to make a case with analytics or understands the full scope of the decision. We think we can do better or at least match the losing with our suggestions. “Being right” is important.
Nalod would welcome any change that turns this thing around. But give props to a fan who throw out 20 things and one sticks without any accountability to the other 19 things that were not unique and change the outcome?
Elf was a glue guy. Evident to the winning. I have no issue with us moving on. same with EF signing outside shooting vs Derozen. 25 games in the dynammic of the Bulls vs knicks is not the same. Way different constructions. Its not working here and randle looks awful. whats the response? Think Reggie was the missing piece? RJ is the SF. We needed a SG. EF is not panning out but the idea was decent. The execution is not there yet if to be. Blow it up? Thats not logical. Get Dolan to make a dumb move? Thats logical. Think the media is helping shape ideas by fueling anger?
Its sucks. But read the aggregate of many posts. Blow it up, dump thibs, get a star/savior, Dump Randle, etc. Derozen looks good with Vooch and Lavine with a ball distributer in Lonzo. They are “win now” and the reality is they traded their long future and we grade it a success after 25 games because we are fading. I get it.
Knicks need to stick with Fournier for better or for worse. He was a commitment and 27 games still isn’t enough to make a definite determination for the future. But having Grimes whether starting or off the bench long term is a great piece to have. If Grimes becomes that 3&D player we lacked who fits like a glove with Randle and Barrett, and Fournier fits more as a bench scorer with more freedom to make plays, than it’s a huge win and Fournier can still be worth his contract.
Well said and more rooted to reality.
The Knicks head coach and FO are still a MISSMANAGEMENT organization, that refuse to admit the super big mistakes they made in the offseason during the draft & FA market.
Randle played 37 minutes and only took 8 shot attempts vs championship Bucks team!
Grimes & Knox excessive playing time minute in the Bucks game were the Knicks exploiting the two players as trade bait for Dec 15 !!!
Or 25% of the roster was unavailable due to Covid-19 protocols
I agree that our FO would love to trade Knox and get something back. I don’t think they want to trade Grimes. If they do God help us
Marv wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Marv wrote:i love our youth. would watch a team every night that featured obi, rj, quick, grimes, deuce and sims. not interested in watching the rest of our roster.was down with our off-season moves. saw enough of how it was playing out to move on.
love that we've retained our draft picks and picked some others up. intrigued by rokas and luka.
this season will take a lot of improvising by the coach, players and FO.
keep experimenting, keep moving forward, keep flexible and keep getting youthier.
What, and at only 23 years of age you consider Jericho Sims "youth", but not Mitchell Robinson as youth?
Because they are BOTH 23 years of age...
not believing in his future so hard any more
martin wrote:Marv wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Marv wrote:i love our youth. would watch a team every night that featured obi, rj, quick, grimes, deuce and sims. not interested in watching the rest of our roster.was down with our off-season moves. saw enough of how it was playing out to move on.
love that we've retained our draft picks and picked some others up. intrigued by rokas and luka.
this season will take a lot of improvising by the coach, players and FO.
keep experimenting, keep moving forward, keep flexible and keep getting youthier.
What, and at only 23 years of age you consider Jericho Sims "youth", but not Mitchell Robinson as youth?
Because they are BOTH 23 years of age...
not believing in his future so hard any more
it's unfortunate but I am almost there myself
Reminds of when Knicks fans said good riddance to Marcus Camby in 2001 — and then he won DPOY a couple years later
