Knicks · Woj: Cam Reddish to KNICKS, Knox out (page 3)

MS @ 1/13/2022 12:26 PM
This is obviously setting up another trade.

Obi is going to be moved shortly. He’s playing 10 minutes a night and Thibs doesn’t like him.

IQ, Obi, two firsts probably to Sac for Fox or some combination.

jrodmc @ 1/13/2022 12:31 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:This is an insane good trade for the Knicks IMHO

It's weird to have us do a trade where it looks like we pulled off a daylight robbery!

Wonder what our next move is- we must have something up our sleeves to free up playing time

I feel like we did the same thing in the Rose trade

TRUE

Not to overly gloat on that one, but is DSmithJr in China yet? LOL

jskinny35 @ 1/13/2022 12:31 PM
Sambakick wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:Useless trade. SG/SF is the one position where the Knicks have a lot of options: RJ, Fournier, Grimes, IQ will also get minutes at SG. At least we did not give up a lot, but hard to see where Cam fits into the rotation, whereas Knox just sat at the end of the bench. Probably the real reason was to make RJ happy ahead of re-signing him and give Knox a fresh start ahead of his contract year.

Could be a trade before a bigger trade. Maybe we move Fournier next.

AND IQ may become the starting PG.

I think you're right about a near future move coming... I suspect it will include Toppin and others (Fournier, IQ, Kemba, Noel or Mitch). Know some here think Fox (Sac) or Brunson are the PG candidates - but again I would pay more for Haliburton as Fox and Randle playing together are like a vette and a minivan on a long road trip together.

MaTT4281 @ 1/13/2022 12:32 PM
Sambakick wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:Useless trade. SG/SF is the one position where the Knicks have a lot of options: RJ, Fournier, Grimes, IQ will also get minutes at SG. At least we did not give up a lot, but hard to see where Cam fits into the rotation, whereas Knox just sat at the end of the bench. Probably the real reason was to make RJ happy ahead of re-signing him and give Knox a fresh start ahead of his contract year.

Could be a trade before a bigger trade. Maybe we move Fournier next.

AND IQ may become the starting PG.

I can see Burks being a piece we move. He's been terrific for us and has a very reasonable deal. But you've got to give up something of value in order to get anything decent in return. At least most of the time, anyways...

KnickDanger @ 1/13/2022 12:32 PM
MS wrote:This is obviously setting up another trade.

Obi is going to be moved shortly. He’s playing 10 minutes a night and Thibs doesn’t like him.

IQ, Obi, two firsts probably to Sac for Fox or some combination.

Who goes to backup 4 if we trade Obi? No big deal because Randle plays the big minutes, unless randle goes out for any length of time.

MaTT4281 @ 1/13/2022 12:37 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
MS wrote:This is obviously setting up another trade.

Obi is going to be moved shortly. He’s playing 10 minutes a night and Thibs doesn’t like him.

IQ, Obi, two firsts probably to Sac for Fox or some combination.

Who goes to backup 4 if we trade Obi? No big deal because Randle plays the big minutes, unless randle goes out for any length of time.

Zion.


Please don't trade Obi...

jrodmc @ 1/13/2022 12:37 PM
Someone has got to get a mic in front of Zion.

All Leon needs to do now is announce Coach K is coming on as an assistant next season...

foosballnick @ 1/13/2022 12:41 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Is cam reddish much better than knox?

Both lower lottery picks both same size both stats close

It’s a wait and see. I’d rather of held out the 1 for a pg

Cam plays defense and can guard 3 positions. He's also had breakout games on offense and has the ability to get to the rim. Knox has only shown proficiency as a spot up 3 point shooter so far. predicting that NY fans are gonna love what Cam brings.

martin @ 1/13/2022 12:43 PM
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:This is an insane good trade for the Knicks IMHO

It's weird to have us do a trade where it looks like we pulled off a daylight robbery!

Wonder what our next move is- we must have something up our sleeves to free up playing time

I feel like we did the same thing in the Rose trade

TRUE

Not to overly gloat on that one, but is DSmithJr in China yet? LOL

Portland, so halfway there

nycdan @ 1/13/2022 12:46 PM
What is not to like about Obi? He's been playing better this season and seems to produce well for the minutes he sees. Is this just a case of not being Julius or is there a defect in his game?
jrodmc @ 1/13/2022 12:46 PM
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:This is an insane good trade for the Knicks IMHO

It's weird to have us do a trade where it looks like we pulled off a daylight robbery!

Wonder what our next move is- we must have something up our sleeves to free up playing time

I feel like we did the same thing in the Rose trade

TRUE

Not to overly gloat on that one, but is DSmithJr in China yet? LOL

Portland, so halfway there

Yeah, and looking at his game logs, someone in Portland's already donated his airfare.

Nalod @ 1/13/2022 12:49 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
MS wrote:This is obviously setting up another trade.

Obi is going to be moved shortly. He’s playing 10 minutes a night and Thibs doesn’t like him.

IQ, Obi, two firsts probably to Sac for Fox or some combination.

Who goes to backup 4 if we trade Obi? No big deal because Randle plays the big minutes, unless randle goes out for any length of time.

Marvin Bagley

knicks1248 @ 1/13/2022 12:57 PM
ok so how do we get him 25 minutes when Knox wasn't even part of the rotation


Knicks now have 6 sg (Grimes, RJ, Burks, Fournier, IQ Cam )in rotation

jrodmc @ 1/13/2022 12:59 PM
foosballnick wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Is cam reddish much better than knox?

Both lower lottery picks both same size both stats close

It’s a wait and see. I’d rather of held out the 1 for a pg

Cam plays defense and can guard 3 positions. He's also had breakout games on offense and has the ability to get to the rim. Knox has only shown proficiency as a spot up 3 point shooter so far. predicting that NY fans are gonna love what Cam brings.

I was wondering about Cam's defense. A quick glance at their D stats doesn't show a whole hell of alot of difference between them. Hopefully Thibs gets more out of Cam than he could out of Knox. He's certainly got more offensive chops.

Wow, Mitch is all that's left from the prior FO regime...

VDesai @ 1/13/2022 1:05 PM
I have been thinking the Knicks could swipe Cam since last year. I think he is underrated. He had two issues - one he has been hurt a lot and can't get consistent run in his career as a result and the other is Atlanta has a ton of guys on the wing with similar talent, but more specialization / one strong skill.

Reddish gives us another creative scorer and bringing in an old buddy for Barrett is helpful. Also Solomon Hill had his uses as a wing defender (assuming we keep him).

MaTT4281 @ 1/13/2022 1:06 PM
martin @ 1/13/2022 1:07 PM
Knicks staff can work with this

martin @ 1/13/2022 1:08 PM
Sambakick @ 1/13/2022 1:08 PM
nycdan wrote:What is not to like about Obi? He's been playing better this season and seems to produce well for the minutes he sees. Is this just a case of not being Julius or is there a defect in his game?

He can't create offense. 80% of his shots are assisted. Randle at 47%. So Randle can create while Obi hasn't shown as much ability to create for himself. Not saying he can't do it, but we haven't seen much of it. It's a shame about Kemba because I thought he would unlock OBI's game more.

martin @ 1/13/2022 1:09 PM
martin @ 1/13/2022 1:15 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:Useless trade. SG/SF is the one position where the Knicks have a lot of options: RJ, Fournier, Grimes, IQ will also get minutes at SG. At least we did not give up a lot, but hard to see where Cam fits into the rotation, whereas Knox just sat at the end of the bench. Probably the real reason was to make RJ happy ahead of re-signing him and give Knox a fresh start ahead of his contract year.

Same arguments made that the Derrick Rose trade would block IQ, etc.

Very short sighted IMHO

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