Knicks · I know... absolute madness... how about some kind of Ben Simmons/Randle swap? (page 4)

martin @ 1/27/2022 9:26 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:I don't want to do a lateral trade at best to make Philly a title contender. And can we please, for the love of all that's good in this world, stop mentioning Grimes in any trade! He is our best asset and building block after RJ. Grimes is untouchable. Not even for Fox, nor anyone else for that matter.

100%

Totally agree as well.
I can't help but wonder if we would feel the same about Deuce if given the playing time.

He had one really good freaking outing, 15 points, 9 assists, 2-5 from 3pt land, 6-11 overall. Against a bad Houston team but it's still impressive. I think he'll have a nice career if he puts in the work and it looks like he is

I'll be honest, I don't understand the want for Jalen Brunson. I don't see much separation from Jalen and Deuce (other than Brunson having time to develop). Maybe I'm just being a homer though

They came out of college with vastly different PG skill sets. One is much stronger on the defensive side of things while being a very good scorer, the other is more of a traditional PG who was an integral part of that winning Villanova team and is not as strong defensively.

I see them both as flawed, cerebral PGs of similar value. Maybe I'm being oversimplistic here

I don't know what that means.

Deuce has yet to prove he can even exist and flourish in an NBA rotation; he has done super well in a GLeague environment and has had exactly 1 good outing in an NBA game against one of the worst teams in the league that was missing all of their decent players.

The other starts on a playoff bound team and will be demanding around $15-20M per year.

There has to be something that is missing in your "similar value" statement?

SupremeCommander @ 1/27/2022 11:32 AM
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:I don't want to do a lateral trade at best to make Philly a title contender. And can we please, for the love of all that's good in this world, stop mentioning Grimes in any trade! He is our best asset and building block after RJ. Grimes is untouchable. Not even for Fox, nor anyone else for that matter.

100%

Totally agree as well.
I can't help but wonder if we would feel the same about Deuce if given the playing time.

He had one really good freaking outing, 15 points, 9 assists, 2-5 from 3pt land, 6-11 overall. Against a bad Houston team but it's still impressive. I think he'll have a nice career if he puts in the work and it looks like he is

I'll be honest, I don't understand the want for Jalen Brunson. I don't see much separation from Jalen and Deuce (other than Brunson having time to develop). Maybe I'm just being a homer though

They came out of college with vastly different PG skill sets. One is much stronger on the defensive side of things while being a very good scorer, the other is more of a traditional PG who was an integral part of that winning Villanova team and is not as strong defensively.

I see them both as flawed, cerebral PGs of similar value. Maybe I'm being oversimplistic here

I don't know what that means.

Deuce has yet to prove he can even exist and flourish in an NBA rotation; he has done super well in a GLeague environment and has had exactly 1 good outing in an NBA game against one of the worst teams in the league that was missing all of their decent players.

The other starts on a playoff bound team and will be demanding around $15-20M per year.

There has to be something that is missing in your "similar value" statement?

you disagree, okay

sorry I like our prospect and would rather give him the chance than sign an $18 million dollar a year playoff starter but sure let's get another EF while we can

also literally last time I engage you on a messageboard because of your attitude and tone. I won't take your bait. But please understand I would like to speak to you as you are speaking to me

martin @ 1/27/2022 11:38 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:I don't want to do a lateral trade at best to make Philly a title contender. And can we please, for the love of all that's good in this world, stop mentioning Grimes in any trade! He is our best asset and building block after RJ. Grimes is untouchable. Not even for Fox, nor anyone else for that matter.

100%

Totally agree as well.
I can't help but wonder if we would feel the same about Deuce if given the playing time.

He had one really good freaking outing, 15 points, 9 assists, 2-5 from 3pt land, 6-11 overall. Against a bad Houston team but it's still impressive. I think he'll have a nice career if he puts in the work and it looks like he is

I'll be honest, I don't understand the want for Jalen Brunson. I don't see much separation from Jalen and Deuce (other than Brunson having time to develop). Maybe I'm just being a homer though

They came out of college with vastly different PG skill sets. One is much stronger on the defensive side of things while being a very good scorer, the other is more of a traditional PG who was an integral part of that winning Villanova team and is not as strong defensively.

I see them both as flawed, cerebral PGs of similar value. Maybe I'm being oversimplistic here

I don't know what that means.

Deuce has yet to prove he can even exist and flourish in an NBA rotation; he has done super well in a GLeague environment and has had exactly 1 good outing in an NBA game against one of the worst teams in the league that was missing all of their decent players.

The other starts on a playoff bound team and will be demanding around $15-20M per year.

There has to be something that is missing in your "similar value" statement?

you disagree, okay

sorry I like our prospect and would rather give him the chance than sign an $18 million dollar a year playoff starter but sure let's get another EF while we can

I haven't disagreed or agreed to anything you are stating.

I was pretty clear, "I don't know what you mean"?

And then I just laid out some facts to give us a baseline understanding or what both player had done in the NBA

martin @ 1/27/2022 11:40 AM
SupremeCommander , I literally just didn't understand what you meant with "both as flawed, cerebral PGs of similar value"
martin @ 1/27/2022 11:46 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:also literally last time I engage you on a messageboard because of your attitude and tone. I won't take your bait. But please understand I would like to speak to you as you are speaking to me

you are reading into something that is not there, but do what you like

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