Knixkik wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.
Adding a PG would help with Randle too. He’s was more efficient with Payton and rose last year. This year he had neither of them.
Depends on how you look at it. Elf only passed to Randle and completely ignored RJ. Of course Randle looked good. He got the ball all of the time so he had more chances to make good plays or screw up. Randle needs a PG though that would require him not going one on one and Randle has to accept that. I don’t have faith in that happening because I think Randle insists on being the primary ball handler. Hence, I don’t think a PG would save Randle.
Allanfan20 wrote:Knixkik wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.
Adding a PG would help with Randle too. He’s was more efficient with Payton and rose last year. This year he had neither of them.
Depends on how you look at it. Elf only passed to Randle and completely ignored RJ. Of course Randle looked good. He got the ball all of the time so he had more chances to make good plays or screw up. Randle needs a PG though that would require him not going one on one and Randle has to accept that. I don’t have faith in that happening because I think Randle insists on being the primary ball handler. Hence, I don’t think a PG would save Randle.
Knicks are slowly moving away from that, you can see it happen. It's happening at a glacial pace but it is happening (harder to do without your PGs). I think one of the frustrations the Knicks team had with Kemba was just this point, they expected him to take control and he tried to fit in and deferred.
martin wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Knixkik wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.
Adding a PG would help with Randle too. He’s was more efficient with Payton and rose last year. This year he had neither of them.
Depends on how you look at it. Elf only passed to Randle and completely ignored RJ. Of course Randle looked good. He got the ball all of the time so he had more chances to make good plays or screw up. Randle needs a PG though that would require him not going one on one and Randle has to accept that. I don’t have faith in that happening because I think Randle insists on being the primary ball handler. Hence, I don’t think a PG would save Randle.
Knicks are slowly moving away from that, you can see it happen. It's happening at a glacial pace but it is happening (harder to do without your PGs). I think one of the frustrations the Knicks team had with Kemba was just this point, they expected him to take control and he tried to fit in and deferred.
Lets be real, Randle comes off All NBA team and to a man anyone not think he might actually take it up a notch from there? We were giddy with elation that not only is he better than KP, but damn good and signed to a most reasonable contract extension!! Of course we give him the ball!!!!!
The thing with Kemba is legit, as is Evan not fitting in right away. Add in RJ comeUpence and you got chemistry issues. I'd rather we fix it then start anew with other issues.
I'm also a pro-Zion player. If he had no flaws he would not be available. As a Board, we tend to overstate the risk profiles associated with other team's star players. When Doncic and Harden came back from the pandemic shut down with a little pudge, we blasted them as out of shape players that wouldn't contribute. Durant may never play again(?). Paul doesn't have a meniscus. Anthony Davis is to injury prone to win a ring (he is injury-prone but not too injury prone to win a ring).
I assume Randle/Quickley for Zion/Nance is the basic framework with combinations of players and picks flowing back and forth. I really liked a lot of players on NOP before - Graham, Lewis, Murphy, even Snell specifically for their role. There are a lot of filler moves that would make me happy.
If we get a top 3 pick, I don't think I make this trade though.
franco12 wrote:I would love to trade for Zion. I would like to think we can make a package that doesn't cripple us, but gives NOLA a great return on a talent that may or may not want to be there, and may or may not ever be healthy.
All this post needs is a cartilage reference and a video of Zion using an inversion table while swallowing green tea fat burning pills.
Let Zion force his way here.
Allanfan20 wrote:I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.
agree 👍 with Allanfan
150%
why not? when last time a rich nba
hoop star whom dont need the $$$$
says he wanna be part of
YOUR/OUR..MY New YORK KNICKS
Eh ? 
DJMUSIC wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.
agree 👍 with Allanfan
150%
why not? when last time a rich nba
hoop star whom dont need the $$$$
says he wanna be part of
YOUR/OUR..MY New YORK KNICKS
Eh ?
I would also trade Randle for Zion, if thats all it took (which I doubt). But NO doesn't have much leverage if Zion doesn't sign extension. NO can save face by getting something in return, vs nothing.
IQ and RJ are keepers though.
But we already showed how good we can be without Randle (eventhough it's only a small sample size). So trading for Zion is similar to removing Randle for nothing. If we can get Zion on the low (due to NO panicking or trying to get something or anything in return)....I would pull the trigger. Ticket sales alone is a plus, with him on the bench. Moving Randle is a positive for the team. Yes he's our best player, but this is addition by subtraction.
