Knicks · The NBA summer of fun!……..2022 (DRAFT, FA, Trades) (page 39)

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Look at that sad set of superstar PF's trying to extend their careers and pick up a chip. Time for Carmelo to beg his way on to another contender - last year was his big opportunity to be with LBJ, but with all of their injuries last year it didn't pan out.

It's a little crazy that Schroeder's gamble from a couple of years ago (turning down a 4yr/$84m from the Lakers) turned out so terribly - AND not only that, he's basically been pretty healthy the whole time.

What's the deal with Miles Bridges? While accounts of his activity are deplorable, he's still a FA, albeit one that comes with significant public backlash and baggage. I reckon make no mistake, if he's good at basketball (which is he), folks will find a way to forgive in time, and hypothetically he'll go through significant efforts to rebuild his brand. Very bad timing (for the whole family), but guy clearly flipped his lid.

TJ Warren and Melo would be the only names I'm interested in but certain moves would have to be made for them to be worthwhile. Warren before injuries was a two way scoring machine at 6'8. Melo in a Gibson role wouldn't be the worst thing but not a priority. Would like another bench player to tell Randle to get outta his head when hes in those slumps and play hard.

TPercy wrote:TJ Warren and Melo would be the only names I'm interested in but certain moves would have to be made for them to be worthwhile. Warren before injuries was a two way scoring machine at 6'8. Melo in a Gibson role wouldn't be the worst thing but not a priority. Would like another bench player to tell Randle to get outta his head when hes in those slumps and play hard.

Honestly, I think we're done! No money left, and there are very few free agents left (do we even have any roster spots left?)

Got to love how Ben Simmons would block D-Mitch or Bam going to the Nets- he's the gift that keeps giving! Is there any way the Nets can unload Simmons? What is his market value?

Dumping for next year? Not much coming to market unrestricted.
Tobias harris got some Obi in him. The good and bad. His contract is not easy.
As for Miles bridges, the optics are not that he lost his shit once. If its true, guys like that do this over a long period of time. Baskeball enabled this. Money enabled this. Entitlement of being a star enabled this. Again, if true.
If so, what does it take for him to redeem himself? Cheap contract and score lots of points? What got accomplished here?
She can settle for a divorce and a promise to share future earnings via civil agreement. But she has to drop the charges on him? Can she do that now it happend?
So we excuse his flaws as long as he plays good ball? Funny, KP was run out of town for being an asshole during consentual relationship and he demanded a trade. Look at the optics of how we treated him.
This guy needs a year off to sort out his legal issues, get help, and then demonstrate not just remorse but that he has made good to those he hurt. But lets not forget NBA is an entertainment company and cannot turn away from this. Hollywood had to stop. Weinstein, Cosby, Ray Rice, kevin Spacy, and many others were tossed out for their legal issues.

now, some of you might have had a history of this and don’t see it as a major offense. I mean you work hard and provide. You love her but just can’t control the rage. You hate that about you, but you find reasons to justify it in some manner or another. Might be how your dad “handled” your mom, or just a culture thing were wife and kids are property to do as you please. Maybe if we forgive others you too might be forgiven? Im not pointing fingers as I don’t know any of you.
Me? my mom took me and my sister away from my abusive father whom I have not seen. In 50 years. He could remarried and had another family. Heard he was a piece of shit there also. He could not face me as he could not face a truth. I gave him ample opportunity to make good. How we do that? Starts with an apology. Admit he was not right. What a shame he missed so many things becaue he could not face his truth. His loss. I told him years before he passed his legacy is pathetic but he bought it all upon himself and it will eat him up forever.
My mom? Got educated, build a business, mentored other women, was a friend, volunteer, grandmother, Greatgrandmotehr whose legacy impacted and improved the lives of others. Dad? Piece of shit and disregarded.
MIles has children and has a choice now. If wealthy basketall player is his priority then thats a damn shame. I don’t know how he finds redemption or even cares to. My thinking is he has been given plenty of opportunity to do right by his enablers and (if true) he ran out of chances.

smackeddog wrote:

TPercy wrote:TJ Warren and Melo would be the only names I'm interested in but certain moves would have to be made for them to be worthwhile. Warren before injuries was a two way scoring machine at 6'8. Melo in a Gibson role wouldn't be the worst thing but not a priority. Would like another bench player to tell Randle to get outta his head when hes in those slumps and play hard.

Honestly, I think we're done! No money left, and there are very few free agents left (do we even have any roster spots left?)

I think, depending on the sequence of the signings and trades for JB,Hart and Mitch, the Knicks might still have a MlE left.

BigDaddyG wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

TPercy wrote:TJ Warren and Melo would be the only names I'm interested in but certain moves would have to be made for them to be worthwhile. Warren before injuries was a two way scoring machine at 6'8. Melo in a Gibson role wouldn't be the worst thing but not a priority. Would like another bench player to tell Randle to get outta his head when hes in those slumps and play hard.

Honestly, I think we're done! No money left, and there are very few free agents left (do we even have any roster spots left?)

I think, depending on the sequence of the signings and trades for JB,Hart and Mitch, the Knicks might still have a MlE left.

They need to make the Dallas trade a Sign and Trade?

EwingsGlass wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

TPercy wrote:TJ Warren and Melo would be the only names I'm interested in but certain moves would have to be made for them to be worthwhile. Warren before injuries was a two way scoring machine at 6'8. Melo in a Gibson role wouldn't be the worst thing but not a priority. Would like another bench player to tell Randle to get outta his head when hes in those slumps and play hard.

Honestly, I think we're done! No money left, and there are very few free agents left (do we even have any roster spots left?)

I think, depending on the sequence of the signings and trades for JB,Hart and Mitch, the Knicks might still have a MlE left.

They need to make the Dallas trade a Sign and Trade?

That was the case before the Burks/Noel trade with Detroit. I have seen any article updating the Knicks Exceptions after the trade.

Looking at the rookie extension figures the last day or two... I really hope we don't do one with RJ this summer. As soon as he signs anything close to 30-$40mil per year... I mean as much as I liked him last year, it just changes something. Would people still be comfortable and excited about him at that figure? Just hope either we get a huge discount on that or give him another season to set his worth, I don't see how else we gain from extending him now.

I love RJ and he is the future, but no way he is worth 30 mil a year right now.

I could see Miles Bridges as a potential repeat of the Spree redemption story. But it is one thing to choke an arsehole coach and quite another to assault a defenseless woman and a mother.

Posted this idea in the Fournier thread, but now found the article:

The Los Angeles Lakers and Brooklyn Nets are actively engaged in discussions on a trade package that would send star point guard Russell Westbrook to Brooklyn in exchange for star point guard Kyrie Irving, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

There’s palpable optimism that an agreement can be struck between the two sides this offseason, but there remain a few hurdles, sources said.

Draft compensation is an ongoing talking point for the Nets and they want shooting guard Joe Harris — who is recovering from left ankle surgery — and his remaining $38.6 million owed over the next two years included in the deal, sources said.

The Lakers have been disinclined to the inclusion of Harris, and are instead seeking the insertion of sharpshooter Seth Curry as part of the arrangement, sources said.

Curry is on an expiring $8.5 million deal.

The Nets maintain discussions have only been preliminary at this point, sources said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-lakers-...

Could we get in on this and give the Lakers Fournier and Cam (I want us to keep him as we desperately need his skill set, but for some reason Knicks seem to want to move him), who the Lakers wanted at the deadline and we almost made a deal with them regarding, for Joe Harris (not a great defender but better than Fournier and just as good if not better a shooter, so should be more playable next to Brunson) plus say, Nunn's $5mil expiring salary to make it work. Gives the lakers a much needed 2 viable players instead of one. Makes our team fit a bit better and be less of a defensive horror show.

ESOMKnicks wrote:I love RJ and he is the future, but no way he is worth 30 mil a year right now.

I like RJ a lot on a rookie contract, but if I'm honest, RJ on a grown man's contract scares me to the point where I'd probably give him up for D-Mitch- especially now RJ is not going to get you Zion as Zion has now signed a rookie extension.

I keep going back and forth, but ultimately: If we can get rid of Randle, we can keep RJ and the roster makes sense going forward- we'd be a young, developing team and we can see how RJ develops as a centre piece to the team. If we're keeping Randle, then the starting lineup makes little sense together and I'd rather trade RJ then, because you just can't have him and Brunson and Randle together, it just won't work.

smackeddog wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:I love RJ and he is the future, but no way he is worth 30 mil a year right now.

I like RJ a lot on a rookie contract, but if I'm honest, RJ on a grown man's contract scares me to the point where I'd probably give him up for D-Mitch- especially now RJ is not going to get you Zion as Zion has now signed a rookie extension.

I keep going back and forth, but ultimately: If we can get rid of Randle, we can keep RJ and the roster makes sense going forward- we'd be a young, developing team and we can see how RJ develops as a centre piece to the team. If we're keeping Randle, then the starting lineup makes little sense together and I'd rather trade RJ then, because you just can't have him and Brunson and Randle together, it just won't work.

I was thinking about RJ’s draft. 3 players from that draft have already gotten big deals. I was just reading about Garland’s extension. He really had a remarkable season last year. Part of that was new opportunity (Sexton out) and better teammates (emergence of Mobley and Allen).

We’ll find out soon what RJ can be with a legit Pg. right now he’s a pretty good player, but I don’t think anyone regards him as an order of magnitude better than Fournier or Burks at this point.

I'd be interested in gambling on Warren for a two year deal for MLE money. Warren can trade Cam who we will likely trade anyway. Rather keep Evan for now and Evan and Warren can play behind RJ. Evan I think will have more value at the deadline or next off-season as his contract will be an expiring next year and I expect his shooting effeciency will improve this season with JB and DRose playing more this year.

smackeddog wrote:Posted this idea in the Fournier thread, but now found the article:

The Los Angeles Lakers and Brooklyn Nets are actively engaged in discussions on a trade package that would send star point guard Russell Westbrook to Brooklyn in exchange for star point guard Kyrie Irving, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

There’s palpable optimism that an agreement can be struck between the two sides this offseason, but there remain a few hurdles, sources said.

Draft compensation is an ongoing talking point for the Nets and they want shooting guard Joe Harris — who is recovering from left ankle surgery — and his remaining $38.6 million owed over the next two years included in the deal, sources said.

The Lakers have been disinclined to the inclusion of Harris, and are instead seeking the insertion of sharpshooter Seth Curry as part of the arrangement, sources said.

Curry is on an expiring $8.5 million deal.

The Nets maintain discussions have only been preliminary at this point, sources said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-lakers-...

Could we get in on this and give the Lakers Fournier and Cam (I want us to keep him as we desperately need his skill set, but for some reason Knicks seem to want to move him), who the Lakers wanted at the deadline and we almost made a deal with them regarding, for Joe Harris (not a great defender but better than Fournier and just as good if not better a shooter, so should be more playable next to Brunson) plus say, Nunn's $5mil expiring salary to make it work. Gives the lakers a much needed 2 viable players instead of one. Makes our team fit a bit better and be less of a defensive horror show.

Seems like they want Curry over Harris cause of the cost of his contract. Why would they want Fournier instread?

It really pisses me off that the Nets are going to bail out the Lakers for their stupid LeGm decisions.

TPercy wrote:It really pisses me off that the Nets are going to bail out the Lakers for their stupid LeGm decisions.

Can't really call it a bail out if Kyrie is involved. More like a reality TV show recast.

BigDaddyG wrote:

TPercy wrote:It really pisses me off that the Nets are going to bail out the Lakers for their stupid LeGm decisions.

Can't really call it a bail out if Kyrie is involved. More like a reality TV show recast.

Lebron played with Kyrie before they can work something out and get his head straight

TPercy wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

TPercy wrote:It really pisses me off that the Nets are going to bail out the Lakers for their stupid LeGm decisions.

Can't really call it a bail out if Kyrie is involved. More like a reality TV show recast.

Lebron played with Kyrie before they can work something out and get his head straight

We saw where things ended between LBJ and Kyrie last time.

Reminds me of when Carmelo was reunited with the Rockets. It didn’t work there.
Kyrie is less of a team player now than before.

martin wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Posted this idea in the Fournier thread, but now found the article:

The Los Angeles Lakers and Brooklyn Nets are actively engaged in discussions on a trade package that would send star point guard Russell Westbrook to Brooklyn in exchange for star point guard Kyrie Irving, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

There’s palpable optimism that an agreement can be struck between the two sides this offseason, but there remain a few hurdles, sources said.

Draft compensation is an ongoing talking point for the Nets and they want shooting guard Joe Harris — who is recovering from left ankle surgery — and his remaining $38.6 million owed over the next two years included in the deal, sources said.

The Lakers have been disinclined to the inclusion of Harris, and are instead seeking the insertion of sharpshooter Seth Curry as part of the arrangement, sources said.

Curry is on an expiring $8.5 million deal.

The Nets maintain discussions have only been preliminary at this point, sources said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-lakers-...

Could we get in on this and give the Lakers Fournier and Cam (I want us to keep him as we desperately need his skill set, but for some reason Knicks seem to want to move him), who the Lakers wanted at the deadline and we almost made a deal with them regarding, for Joe Harris (not a great defender but better than Fournier and just as good if not better a shooter, so should be more playable next to Brunson) plus say, Nunn's $5mil expiring salary to make it work. Gives the lakers a much needed 2 viable players instead of one. Makes our team fit a bit better and be less of a defensive horror show.

Seems like they want Curry over Harris cause of the cost of his contract. Why would they want Fournier instread?

Mainly so they get two viable players instead of one. If Nets refuse to include Curry, and Lakers cave in, then they'd already have Harris's salary on the books. At that point you may as well see if, for essentially no extra salary, they'd like to turn him into Fournier AND Cams (who they were going to trade for at the deadline in that Knicks/Raptors three way) for the same amount of salary hit- their roster is ridiculously shallow and they have no money to fill it.

It's basically a proposal if they end up accepting Harris instead of Curry.

TPercy wrote:It really pisses me off that the Nets are going to bail out the Lakers for their stupid LeGm decisions.

I don't know, it's a bit of a waste for the league to have Lebron and and AD waste away for another season- at least Kyrie may make the team viable and increase the entertainment in the west- this years playoffs sucked for the most part. Plus, I won't lie, I like the idea of Westbrook being reunited with KD no matter how briefly (maybe they plan on using Westbrook's presence to pressure KD into widening his list of teams!