Knicks · Knicks in on Mitchell trade (page 24)

HofstraBBall @ 7/21/2022 4:14 PM

Can see Berman posting this on the daily.

Panos @ 7/21/2022 4:25 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

No hedges. Never ever do this. You’re banking u have bosh wade and James w Tgis trade. Not even close

Agreed.
Also, is Donovan THAT much better than Randle that you give up that much in addition?

Clean @ 7/21/2022 4:26 PM

Makes sense because different sources are privy to different info. The fact that he heard similar from some of his own sources makes me believe something is going on.

FrenchFreak @ 7/21/2022 4:27 PM
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

I actually don't think this would be terrible for the Knicks. That said, the Lakers side of the deal is too good to be true. They essentially get to trade one of the worst contracts in basketball (plus the standard THT and a future 2nd LOL) for three guys who are each more useful than Westbrook. I think the Lakers would do that deal in a millisecond. The Knicks would get to keep all of their young guys so that's great for the Knicks. I guess the question is whether Utah would actually trade DM for just picks and the ability to get out of Bojan's deal. Seems iffy to me.

(Seeing how Lebron would handle Julius might be fun, by the way.)

On edit- just realized Bojan is only owed one year. Now I'm really not sure what LA brings to the table in this deal. I sincerely believe Randle/Fournier/Rose are all tradeable. Why would Utah take on Westbrook rather than those 3?

jaydh @ 7/21/2022 4:29 PM
I've seen it with Grimes included as well. Hopefully that's not the case.
GustavBahler @ 7/21/2022 4:30 PM
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

One tweet claiming sources said that Grimes would be sent to Utah as well. It would make the Lakers serious contenders again. The Knicks? 2nd round seems realistic. Would want to see the picks we would be giving up.

smackeddog @ 7/21/2022 4:34 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:

That’s the worst walk back I’ve ever heard 😂

HofstraBBall @ 7/21/2022 4:41 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:

That’s the worst walk back I’ve ever heard 😂

Sounds like what everyone has been basically saying. That is that the deal will most likely get done as it seems the Knicks have what Jazz want. Will be a matter of who flinches first and gives in. Clear Jazz will move on and Knicks are ready and able to give an acceptable offer.

HofstraBBall @ 7/21/2022 4:51 PM
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

GustavBahler @ 7/21/2022 4:54 PM
https://theathletic.com/3440552/2022/07/...

The Knicks will be expensive heading into the 2024-25 season, especially if they add Mitchell to the mix. Assuming Barrett receives a max contract or anywhere near it, the salaries of just the projected starting five of Brunson, Mitchell, Barrett, Randle and Robinson will add up to darn near the entire salary cap. The roster will be in danger of going into the tax. And paying the tax is fine and dandy … but any owner wants to be more than just mildly competitive if the bills are so expensive.
MS @ 7/21/2022 6:39 PM
Is it unrealistic that Grimed and Quickly can generate 22-24pts off the bench. Just seems crazy to give up all these pics and then quality young players.

These trades never end up working.

Championship or not, the Lakers gave up two lottery picks, multiple swaps, Ingram, Lonzo, Hart. Not sure you make that trade again.

Same goes with the Clippers.

Harden was a better player at the time of the trade and they didn’t give up as much.

We have to bend over because Minnesota made a bad deal?

Rookie @ 7/21/2022 6:53 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

This trade is laughable. LA gives up absolutely nothing, dumps Westbrook and adds 3 quality players. This shit is so made up. Is this someones fantasy trade disguised as a real rumor?

EwingsGlass @ 7/21/2022 7:11 PM
Read that Carmelo will likely sign in NY if Mitchell comes. Makes me wonder if there are any other vets they can sign that would make losing some youth more palatable.
Jmpasq @ 7/21/2022 7:15 PM
Rookie wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

This trade is laughable. LA gives up absolutely nothing, dumps Westbrook and adds 3 quality players. This shit is so made up. Is this someones fantasy trade disguised as a real rumor?


I can't wait to send the number 1 pick to the Jazz in 2027 and 2028. Its going to be awesome
BigRedDog @ 7/21/2022 7:34 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:Read that Carmelo will likely sign in NY if Mitchell comes. Makes me wonder if there are any other vets they can sign that would make losing some youth more palatable.

How is getting Carmelo back making this trade any more palatable? A washed up, no defense, selfish player who will take pt away from any youth we have left.

jskinny35 @ 7/21/2022 7:58 PM
Probably just internet talk but there is a guy on FB Knicks Nation who claims he works for CBS sports and is saying the deal is done/agreed upon but the Knicks are trying to send D. Rose back to Chicago to clear cap space before the actual trade.

He claims it is for 4 #1 picks and 2 pick swaps, plus Fournier, Toppin and Grimes. Again - likely just talk but he keeps responding to others inquiring with the same information. While I'm not a fan of this deal it does sound a little better have 2 pick swaps and moving Fournier in the process. If true - sucks about Grimes and would have thought IQ would be more replaceable.

Guess time will tell and I sure hope he's wrong about Obi :(

EwingsGlass @ 7/21/2022 8:12 PM
jskinny35 wrote:Probably just internet talk but there is a guy on FB Knicks Nation who claims he works for CBS sports and is saying the deal is done/agreed upon but the Knicks are trying to send D. Rose back to Chicago to clear cap space before the actual trade.

He claims it is for 4 #1 picks and 2 pick swaps, plus Fournier, Toppin and Grimes. Again - likely just talk but he keeps responding to others inquiring with the same information. While I'm not a fan of this deal it does sound a little better have 2 pick swaps and moving Fournier in the process. If true - sucks about Grimes and would have thought IQ would be more replaceable.

Guess time will tell and I sure hope he's wrong about Obi :(

Interesting thought. Not in love with it, but it costs some to get some.

Brunson/McBride
Mitchell/IQ
Barrett/Reddish
Randle/
Robinson/Hart/Sims

Don’t really understand how clearing Rose makes sense. Not necessary with Fournier/Grimes and Toppin going. The numbers seem to work with that alone. After going above the cap to sign Robinson, I don’t really understand how moving Rose does anything but take Rose off our roster. For that reason, I think something is wrong/missing.

TPercy @ 7/21/2022 8:37 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

That is a parody account 😂😂

I actually believed this the first time and then I double checked the athletic. I still don’t think it’s a bad trade if you force LA to send picks to Utah and cut back on our unprotected picks outgoing and keep rose

jskinny35 @ 7/21/2022 8:38 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
jskinny35 wrote:Probably just internet talk but there is a guy on FB Knicks Nation who claims he works for CBS sports and is saying the deal is done/agreed upon but the Knicks are trying to send D. Rose back to Chicago to clear cap space before the actual trade.

He claims it is for 4 #1 picks and 2 pick swaps, plus Fournier, Toppin and Grimes. Again - likely just talk but he keeps responding to others inquiring with the same information. While I'm not a fan of this deal it does sound a little better have 2 pick swaps and moving Fournier in the process. If true - sucks about Grimes and would have thought IQ would be more replaceable.

Guess time will tell and I sure hope he's wrong about Obi :(

Interesting thought. Not in love with it, but it costs some to get some.

Brunson/McBride
Mitchell/IQ
Barrett/Reddish
Randle/
Robinson/Hart/Sims

Don’t really understand how clearing Rose makes sense. Not necessary with Fournier/Grimes and Toppin going. The numbers seem to work with that alone. After going above the cap to sign Robinson, I don’t really understand how moving Rose does anything but take Rose off our roster. For that reason, I think something is wrong/missing.

Yeah - I have no idea why Rose would have to head to Chicago if this is the actual deal. I also think moving Fournier and Grimes leaves us in a big hole with outside shooting and floor spacing. Also thought IQ was more easily replaceable due to Mitchell and Brunson handling the ball. Maybe Sims would slide into Obi's backup spot but think we will miss Grimes and Obi more then we realize.

TPercy @ 7/21/2022 8:39 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
jskinny35 wrote:Probably just internet talk but there is a guy on FB Knicks Nation who claims he works for CBS sports and is saying the deal is done/agreed upon but the Knicks are trying to send D. Rose back to Chicago to clear cap space before the actual trade.

He claims it is for 4 #1 picks and 2 pick swaps, plus Fournier, Toppin and Grimes. Again - likely just talk but he keeps responding to others inquiring with the same information. While I'm not a fan of this deal it does sound a little better have 2 pick swaps and moving Fournier in the process. If true - sucks about Grimes and would have thought IQ would be more replaceable.

Guess time will tell and I sure hope he's wrong about Obi :(

Interesting thought. Not in love with it, but it costs some to get some.

Brunson/McBride
Mitchell/IQ
Barrett/Reddish
Randle/
Robinson/Hart/Sims

Don’t really understand how clearing Rose makes sense. Not necessary with Fournier/Grimes and Toppin going. The numbers seem to work with that alone. After going above the cap to sign Robinson, I don’t really understand how moving Rose does anything but take Rose off our roster. For that reason, I think something is wrong/missing.

You can’t give up Grimes. Give them Reddish maybe

TPercy @ 7/21/2022 8:41 PM
Rookie wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
TPercy wrote:I....might like this if we keep Rose

This trade is laughable. LA gives up absolutely nothing, dumps Westbrook and adds 3 quality players. This shit is so made up. Is this someones fantasy trade disguised as a real rumor?

It’s a trade proposal. I think you could make it work if we keep Rose, and force them to send their own picks instead of us giving up ours.

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