Knicks · Poll on Possible Trade Options (page 1)
TheGame wrote:martin wrote:Grimes?No one wants to trade Grimes. He looks like a player who has a chance to breakout and turn into a borderline All-star/solid starter. He has above average defense already, and the only thing left to prove is whether he can continue to shoot 3s at a high efficiency and whether he can consistently create his own shot at a decent efficiency. If he can do both, then he is borderline Allstar and the Knicks will look like idiots trading him AND five picks for Mitchell.
Agree with you 100%. Knicks would still need a DM-like player but I just love Grimes too much.
Was just wondering why he wasn't anywhere to be found in the poll! 
martin wrote:TheGame wrote:martin wrote:Grimes?No one wants to trade Grimes. He looks like a player who has a chance to breakout and turn into a borderline All-star/solid starter. He has above average defense already, and the only thing left to prove is whether he can continue to shoot 3s at a high efficiency and whether he can consistently create his own shot at a decent efficiency. If he can do both, then he is borderline Allstar and the Knicks will look like idiots trading him AND five picks for Mitchell.
Agree with you 100%. Knicks would still need a DM-like player but I just love Grimes too much.
Was just wondering why he wasn't anywhere to be found in the poll!
I ignored any players outside the 10 man and assume that the “package” will be some combination of picks and other players not otherwise necessary to make salary match. It’s not perfect, but Grimes is probably worth a conditional 1st right now. Include him or an extra conditional first in the imaginary package. Or if you think he is worth more, include more or him.
I just didn’t want to go through every permutation.
EwingsGlass wrote:martin wrote:TheGame wrote:martin wrote:Grimes?No one wants to trade Grimes. He looks like a player who has a chance to breakout and turn into a borderline All-star/solid starter. He has above average defense already, and the only thing left to prove is whether he can continue to shoot 3s at a high efficiency and whether he can consistently create his own shot at a decent efficiency. If he can do both, then he is borderline Allstar and the Knicks will look like idiots trading him AND five picks for Mitchell.
Agree with you 100%. Knicks would still need a DM-like player but I just love Grimes too much.
Was just wondering why he wasn't anywhere to be found in the poll!
I ignored any players outside the 10 man and assume that the “package” will be some combination of picks and other players not otherwise necessary to make salary match. It’s not perfect, but Grimes is probably worth a conditional 1st right now. Include him or an extra conditional first in the imaginary package. Or if you think he is worth more, include more or him.
I just didn’t want to go through every permutation.
I hope Leon Rose agrees with us. Mitchell is a great player but Grimes has the potential to be very solid. If he blossoms, we can have him, keep all our draft picks, and still have all our young people to really structure a trade that fits our needs. A Brunson/Mitchell backcourt was never going to work defensively. A Brunson/Grimes backcourt makes far more sense if Grimes can develop into an efficient 20-22 point scorer.
TheGame wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:martin wrote:TheGame wrote:martin wrote:Grimes?No one wants to trade Grimes. He looks like a player who has a chance to breakout and turn into a borderline All-star/solid starter. He has above average defense already, and the only thing left to prove is whether he can continue to shoot 3s at a high efficiency and whether he can consistently create his own shot at a decent efficiency. If he can do both, then he is borderline Allstar and the Knicks will look like idiots trading him AND five picks for Mitchell.
Agree with you 100%. Knicks would still need a DM-like player but I just love Grimes too much.
Was just wondering why he wasn't anywhere to be found in the poll!
I ignored any players outside the 10 man and assume that the “package” will be some combination of picks and other players not otherwise necessary to make salary match. It’s not perfect, but Grimes is probably worth a conditional 1st right now. Include him or an extra conditional first in the imaginary package. Or if you think he is worth more, include more or him.
I just didn’t want to go through every permutation.
I hope Leon Rose agrees with us. Mitchell is a great player but Grimes has the potential to be very solid. If he blossoms, we can have him, keep all our draft picks, and still have all our young people to really structure a trade that fits our needs. A Brunson/Mitchell backcourt was never going to work defensively. A Brunson/Grimes backcourt makes far more sense if Grimes can develop into an efficient 20-22 point scorer.
Easy peasy………
Lets think of this reality. There are lots of fans that think this, but then you have a well regarded FO and a pretty good coaching staff. So if it don’t work we get to say “told you so” but we don’t get that unless Grmes turns into that somewhere else.
I have to weigh in that I hope Leon knows better. Either pass on the trade because its the right thing but then lets be real also, the next move might not be better and it could fail as well.