martin wrote:KnickDanger wrote:What’s happening with Cam Thomas of the Nets? 47 tonight against the Clips with no KD or any of their big shots.
Maybe young players need development and patience?
I wonder if any team will sign him after the trading dust settles.
MaTT4281 wrote:blkexec wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:
In this case, I think it just means more PnR for Ivey.
OK cool, but benching is better than removal. If it was up to Thibs, Hayes would never see the floor again. So he better be thankful for a backup role (just ask Cam).
As long as we're spitting out rhetoric...If it was Thibs, they wouldn't have the worst record in the East.
To make it worse.
Godforsaken Coach Thibs had a Roster full of Superstars and both James Harden and then (shortly) afterwards Kyrie Irving both demanded a trade and forced their way off the Knicks.
Coach Thibs would then be called out as a locker room killer and team cancer who players refuse to play for.
ToddTT wrote:
Whatever even qualifed this guy to become the Head Coach of the Nets, to begin with?
He's a career losing 95-176 loser of an HC @ only .351%.
I don’t hate the Nets. As a matter of fact, they were probably my (distant) second favorite team going back to the Buck Williams days. Wasn’t crazy about the Garnett/Pierce version but the Kenny Atkinson coached overachievers in their wake after bankrupting assets were easy to like. But when it became the “cool” destination for ring chasing super friends well that was that. But especially when KD and his bobos forced out Atkinson to replace him with their sock puppet - well their failures bring me more NBA pleasure other than Knick success.
NYKMentality wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:blkexec wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:
In this case, I think it just means more PnR for Ivey.
OK cool, but benching is better than removal. If it was up to Thibs, Hayes would never see the floor again. So he better be thankful for a backup role (just ask Cam).
As long as we're spitting out rhetoric...If it was Thibs, they wouldn't have the worst record in the East.
To make it worse.
Godforsaken Coach Thibs had a Roster full of Superstars and both James Harden and then (shortly) afterwards Kyrie Irving both demanded a trade and forced their way off the Knicks.
Coach Thibs would then be called out as a locker room killer and team cancer who players refuse to play for.
We would have never hired Thibs. Not with KD/Kyrie as shadow GM/Team President. Most likely we would have hired Nash ourselves or some other clown handpicked by KD who would have been fired after the first first round playoff elimination
KnickDanger wrote:I don’t hate the Nets. As a matter of fact, they were probably my (distant) second favorite team going back to the Buck Williams days. Wasn’t crazy about the Garnett/Pierce version but the Kenny Atkinson coached overachievers in their wake after bankrupting assets were easy to like. But when it became the “cool” destination for ring chasing super friends well that was that. But especially when KD and his bobos forced out Atkinson to replace him with their sock puppet - well their failures bring me more NBA pleasure other than Knick success.
I have rooted for the nets in the past as I am originally from Jersey. Early 90’s nets with Petrovic, Coleman, Mookie Blaylock and Kenny were a good and likable team that literally had no fans so rooting for them actually felt cool. Early 2000’s Nets were fun to watch. Knicks were headed absolutely nowhere at that time during the Layden/Isiah years where it was one obviously stupid cap hell inducing move after another so Kidd/KMart/RJ were the only show in town and it felt rebellious to root for them because NY Sports radio refused to acknowledge they even existed because they might distract from endless Mets talk
This current team is so unlikable and epitomizes everything wrong with today’s nba. Durant is a snowflake who strung us along for 2 years I knew he was never coming here. Kyrie is and always will be a narcissistic douche.
Philc1 wrote:KnickDanger wrote:I don’t hate the Nets. As a matter of fact, they were probably my (distant) second favorite team going back to the Buck Williams days. Wasn’t crazy about the Garnett/Pierce version but the Kenny Atkinson coached overachievers in their wake after bankrupting assets were easy to like. But when it became the “cool” destination for ring chasing super friends well that was that. But especially when KD and his bobos forced out Atkinson to replace him with their sock puppet - well their failures bring me more NBA pleasure other than Knick success.
I have rooted for the nets in the past as I am originally from Jersey. Early 90’s nets with Petrovic, Coleman, Mookie Blaylock and Kenny were a good and likable team that literally had no fans so rooting for them actually felt cool. Early 2000’s Nets were fun to watch. Knicks were headed absolutely nowhere at that time during the Layden/Isiah years where it was one obviously stupid cap hell inducing move after another so Kidd/KMart/RJ were the only show in town and it felt rebellious to root for them because NY Sports radio refused to acknowledge they even existed because they might distract from endless Mets talk
This current team is so unlikable and epitomizes everything wrong with today’s nba. Durant is a snowflake who strung us along for 2 years I knew he was never coming here. Kyrie is and always will be a narcissistic douche.
You take like a jilted ex lover. "strung us along....." Must have been awful!
Is it the franchise or the players?
We have learned Kenny Atkinson was all about himself and he could not coach that team. He and Sean Marks did a great job post Pierce/Garnett but kind of like when Dave Blast was to coach a rebuild in Cleveland but then Lebron came back. Different type of team. Blast still coached them to finals, but the fit was not there.
No doubt the perfect shit storm was the Brooklyn nets the last few years. Many elements to it. Quite a story.
Vaughn has done a good job and when they had both on the court they were cooking. Maybe he was seen as Joe Torre type. Guys that are better than their record. Vaughn had a rough stretch in Orlando. Not all of it was on him.
As for Kyrie, the list of all star players he has been paired with is quite impressive.
Durant does not bother me because like him or not he is genuine and a basketball guy first. His career has been thru the evolution of social media and it has not always been pretty for him. Jordan never had it. Lebron handled it far better. Same for Curry.
It seems that Harden was no about the circus that Kyrie bought to the team. Kyrie brings chaos. ON the court and in the locker room players really like him.
He is an enigma!
At some point the Ja Morant experience will get ugly?
The memphis arrogance get old after a while?
They are approaching the line were youthful confidence crosses over to delusional entitlement?
Losing is not a good look and dirty play will not win them friends.
Its all cute while the winning is good.
And if Ja just is hell bent on impossible dunks (he is very good at it!) is it then where a broken leg or wrist
lands him down to earth?
Nalod wrote:At some point the Ja Morant experience will get ugly?
The memphis arrogance get old after a while?
They are approaching the line were youthful confidence crosses over to delusional entitlement?
Losing is not a good look and dirty play will not win them friends.
Its all cute while the winning is good.
And if Ja just is hell bent on impossible dunks (he is very good at it!) is it then where a broken leg or wrist
lands him down to earth?
There was a lot of regret on missing out on Zion and Ja -- understandably because of their talent level. But you have to wonder how Zion's injury woes and waistline and now Ja's thug posing would go over here. With Thibs, the media, with fans.
Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:KnickDanger wrote:I don’t hate the Nets. As a matter of fact, they were probably my (distant) second favorite team going back to the Buck Williams days. Wasn’t crazy about the Garnett/Pierce version but the Kenny Atkinson coached overachievers in their wake after bankrupting assets were easy to like. But when it became the “cool” destination for ring chasing super friends well that was that. But especially when KD and his bobos forced out Atkinson to replace him with their sock puppet - well their failures bring me more NBA pleasure other than Knick success.
I have rooted for the nets in the past as I am originally from Jersey. Early 90’s nets with Petrovic, Coleman, Mookie Blaylock and Kenny were a good and likable team that literally had no fans so rooting for them actually felt cool. Early 2000’s Nets were fun to watch. Knicks were headed absolutely nowhere at that time during the Layden/Isiah years where it was one obviously stupid cap hell inducing move after another so Kidd/KMart/RJ were the only show in town and it felt rebellious to root for them because NY Sports radio refused to acknowledge they even existed because they might distract from endless Mets talk
This current team is so unlikable and epitomizes everything wrong with today’s nba. Durant is a snowflake who strung us along for 2 years I knew he was never coming here. Kyrie is and always will be a narcissistic douche.
You take like a jilted ex lover. "strung us along....." Must have been awful!
Is it the franchise or the players?
We have learned Kenny Atkinson was all about himself and he could not coach that team. He and Sean Marks did a great job post Pierce/Garnett but kind of like when Dave Blast was to coach a rebuild in Cleveland but then Lebron came back. Different type of team. Blast still coached them to finals, but the fit was not there.
No doubt the perfect shit storm was the Brooklyn nets the last few years. Many elements to it. Quite a story.
Vaughn has done a good job and when they had both on the court they were cooking. Maybe he was seen as Joe Torre type. Guys that are better than their record. Vaughn had a rough stretch in Orlando. Not all of it was on him.
As for Kyrie, the list of all star players he has been paired with is quite impressive.
Durant does not bother me because like him or not he is genuine and a basketball guy first. His career has been thru the evolution of social media and it has not always been pretty for him. Jordan never had it. Lebron handled it far better. Same for Curry.
It seems that Harden was no about the circus that Kyrie bought to the team. Kyrie brings chaos. ON the court and in the locker room players really like him.
He is an enigma!
Yeah it’s not like Durant and his life coach who’s a Knicks fan didn’t lead on the Knicks FO for 2 years. How dare I cite basic facts
KnickDanger wrote:Nalod wrote:At some point the Ja Morant experience will get ugly?
The memphis arrogance get old after a while?
They are approaching the line were youthful confidence crosses over to delusional entitlement?
Losing is not a good look and dirty play will not win them friends.
Its all cute while the winning is good.
And if Ja just is hell bent on impossible dunks (he is very good at it!) is it then where a broken leg or wrist
lands him down to earth?
There was a lot of regret on missing out on Zion and Ja -- understandably because of their talent level. But you have to wonder how Zion's injury woes and waistline and now Ja's thug posing would go over here. With Thibs, the media, with fans.
If we had the number one pick in the 2019 draft and took Zion over Ja it would have been an absolute sh tshow.
How could I not notice hell freezing over this early part of the week.
BigDaddyG wrote:How could I not notice hell freezing over this early part of the week.
Oh well… I guess the Suns won’t be relevant for a couple of decades.
ToddTT wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:How could I not notice hell freezing over this early part of the week.
Oh well… I guess the Suns won’t be relevant for a couple of decades.
Cam Reddish for Mykal Walker is on the table! 
KnickDanger wrote:martin wrote:KnickDanger wrote:What’s happening with Cam Thomas of the Nets? 47 tonight against the Clips with no KD or any of their big shots.
Maybe young players need development and patience?
Tonight 43 for him. Will be interesting to see how dust settles for Nets.
BigDaddyG wrote:How could I not notice hell freezing over this early part of the week.
Is there another Isiah Thomas because there’s no way ours smooth talked his way into another front office job
