Knicks · How can we compare a Carmelo Anthony deal to a Donovan Mitchell deal when Mitchell is so much younger (pull the trigger?) (page 2)

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Despite the media narrative we didn;t give up that much for Carmrlo

Media narrative? Thats all you got? How did the team do in the aftermath of the trade? Real results not Media Narrative&

It's interesting how Nalod always has to have one user to bully at a time. Currently it's Philc1.
Previously it was knicks1728 or whatever his handle was. For a short time it was Briggs.
It's a bit stalker-like

It is interesting.
Its also interesting that some of you let inaccurate shit slide and that creates more fans digesting falsehoods and the spew it out as facts.
You call it "bullying". I call it fact checking.
Phil can say 20 things but do I bully; all of it?
Fact is he has gotten better as he is not making up shit.

When others call him out is it bullying?

Martin calls out bullshit all the time but he lets us mostly self monitor. If not it dies. You see others sites come and go because you get a few participants who just relentlessly make shit up.

Dont; forget orangeblob man, TMS, and Playa2. I don;t ban anyone nor control a thing around here. But I call out bullshit as should most of you. This is our place to discuss and learn. Making shit up like you in the room or in Thibs head should be called out. State " I think Thibs might be thinking"; is so easy and does not reek of BS. We all read the same stuff. If you come up with something its actually a good thing to site the source. Especiall stats.
Notice when I go after a hard BS line I back it with a stat? The actual link? Does PhilC often defend it? No. Does he deflect the subject? Yes.
Have I have ever been wrong? Yes, and I admit it. Why? Whats the point of doubling down. Some of the posters when called out don;t. Its an ego thing or what?
And lets be straight, 99% of the time its about a post, not the poster. Briggs has expressed some very personal views about some items like the Primo incident as "boys will be boys"; as a most recent example. Thats on him to view it and it goes one step futher.

We have had some very interesting topics over the years with some very intelligent contributors which I found valuable and learned from. Contrast that to some really off the wall ignorant stuff and I was not alone in.

Glad you find it interesting. Feel free to correct me or anyone else to keep this site a place of honest opinions and accurate discussions.

Right, so when you called knicks1248 "Rainman" after every one of his posts, that was about the post or the poster?
Look there are posters whose posts I find annoying. You can just ignore them. I ignore Kemet for example. Used to be nixluva. But I don't stalk them.

I did stop calling him names. That I admit was a bit raw. The fucking guy was off the rails though and he did relent.
Kemet? I dont agree with many of his views but like I said its not about that. Its how its presented as either opinion or facts.
I did not call 1248 names after each post. Just the crazy ones. He came off as arrogant, redundant, made up stuff and got called out on it. One famous was how knick sere being disrespected because they the game was aired at 3pm and he goes off on how ESPN hates them, etc. I explained they were playing in Europe. Nope, was not having it. They I explained in London it was 8 pm there. Never a "Oh, yeah, forgot" Fuck that shit man. Sorry if you have an relative or one you love afflicted like a fictional movie character and my words offended you. I stopped and never used it toward an other intensely redundant posters who freaks out over the same thing over and over again.

I call it bullying because you have one poster at a time who gets in your craw, and you're up their ass immediately after each of their posts. Like you have some bot scraping the site alerting you for their posts. It would be fine if you were generally fact checking everyone. Or random posts. But you're not. As i said in my original post, it's interesting that you serially choose one poster at a time (generally till they disappear) to pick on. That is bully behavior.

I'll be honest. I don't like even your non-bullying posts. They come off as preachy/superior and vacuous at the same time. Rambling with no point except that we can't make a conclusion at this time. Rarely do you state an actual opinion and you seem to take pride in not doing so. But fine, i have the option knowing your posts don't actually have any content of value and skipping over them.

So let me ask you this. Do you consider yourself a bulkwark against ignorance on the Internet? Are you going to clean it up one user at a time? And you came to UK (a sports fan site, of all places) to do so? Maybe you should switch it up and fact check on a site that debates vaccinations.

And no, i don't have any relatives that are autistic, since you seen afraid to use the word, because you'd have to admit that that is what you were labeling that poster. Incessantly.

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Despite the media narrative we didn;t give up that much for Carmrlo

Media narrative? Thats all you got? How did the team do in the aftermath of the trade? Real results not Media Narrative&

It's interesting how Nalod always has to have one user to bully at a time. Currently it's Philc1.
Previously it was knicks1728 or whatever his handle was. For a short time it was Briggs.
It's a bit stalker-like

It is interesting.
Its also interesting that some of you let inaccurate shit slide and that creates more fans digesting falsehoods and the spew it out as facts.
You call it "bullying". I call it fact checking.
Phil can say 20 things but do I bully; all of it?
Fact is he has gotten better as he is not making up shit.

When others call him out is it bullying?

Martin calls out bullshit all the time but he lets us mostly self monitor. If not it dies. You see others sites come and go because you get a few participants who just relentlessly make shit up.

Dont; forget orangeblob man, TMS, and Playa2. I don;t ban anyone nor control a thing around here. But I call out bullshit as should most of you. This is our place to discuss and learn. Making shit up like you in the room or in Thibs head should be called out. State " I think Thibs might be thinking"; is so easy and does not reek of BS. We all read the same stuff. If you come up with something its actually a good thing to site the source. Especiall stats.
Notice when I go after a hard BS line I back it with a stat? The actual link? Does PhilC often defend it? No. Does he deflect the subject? Yes.
Have I have ever been wrong? Yes, and I admit it. Why? Whats the point of doubling down. Some of the posters when called out don;t. Its an ego thing or what?
And lets be straight, 99% of the time its about a post, not the poster. Briggs has expressed some very personal views about some items like the Primo incident as "boys will be boys"; as a most recent example. Thats on him to view it and it goes one step futher.

We have had some very interesting topics over the years with some very intelligent contributors which I found valuable and learned from. Contrast that to some really off the wall ignorant stuff and I was not alone in.

Glad you find it interesting. Feel free to correct me or anyone else to keep this site a place of honest opinions and accurate discussions.

Right, so when you called knicks1248 "Rainman" after every one of his posts, that was about the post or the poster?
Look there are posters whose posts I find annoying. You can just ignore them. I ignore Kemet for example. Used to be nixluva. But I don't stalk them.

I did stop calling him names. That I admit was a bit raw. The fucking guy was off the rails though and he did relent.
Kemet? I dont agree with many of his views but like I said its not about that. Its how its presented as either opinion or facts.
I did not call 1248 names after each post. Just the crazy ones. He came off as arrogant, redundant, made up stuff and got called out on it. One famous was how knick sere being disrespected because they the game was aired at 3pm and he goes off on how ESPN hates them, etc. I explained they were playing in Europe. Nope, was not having it. They I explained in London it was 8 pm there. Never a "Oh, yeah, forgot" Fuck that shit man. Sorry if you have an relative or one you love afflicted like a fictional movie character and my words offended you. I stopped and never used it toward an other intensely redundant posters who freaks out over the same thing over and over again.

I call it bullying because you have one poster at a time who gets in your craw, and you're up their ass immediately after each of their posts. Like you have some bot scraping the site alerting you for their posts. It would be fine if you were generally fact checking everyone. Or random posts. But you're not. As i said in my original post, it's interesting that you serially choose one poster at a time (generally till they disappear) to pick on. That is bully behavior.

I'll be honest. I don't like even your non-bullying posts. They come off as preachy/superior and vacuous at the same time. Rambling with no point except that we can't make a conclusion at this time. Rarely do you state an actual opinion and you seem to take pride in not doing so. But fine, i have the option knowing your posts don't actually have any content of value and skipping over them.

So let me ask you this. Do you consider yourself a bulkwark against ignorance on the Internet? Are you going to clean it up one user at a time? And you came to UK (a sports fan site, of all places) to do so? Maybe you should switch it up and fact check on a site that debates vaccinations.

I suppose we all have that one special poster that just grates on us. I am your special flavor. only difference is you don't jump on my shit but you right there with mine.
Fact is I do very little on the internet but am stead fast love of Knicks and been here a long time.
I guess I do pontificate a bit too much. I post a lot and try to back up my opinions with facts. If not, I state so.
Did I just do that superior thing again? Oh my!
This is not the first time you jumped on me so on a micro basis you do me, I do PhilC. If in 20 years only a handful of posters get on my nerve out of 100's thats a pretty low amount. If you notice, PhilC and I sometimes go back and forth and its kept a bit light. I don't call him names? That was one special dude.
Playa was banned more than once for some out there stuff. I don't have any authority at all here to do that.

Opinion with no conclusion. Good point. Fact is many over react to the game and pretend they have good advice for Knicks and coaches. I'll go one more here and say "Its a joke what the average person thinks they know and does not consider the ramifications or details, let alone the timeline to make those suggestions". I hardly do that with everyone, just specific points of view. I don't know or remember your views or agenda's. I don't care. I do know that I will never ever not consider the context of how and when decisions are made when doing hindsight.

Does the UK need me to keep things straight around here? Have I anointed myself the adult in the room when fans lose their shit? Vast majority of views are actually pretty good and valid.k Ok, that might be a bit much. But the don't suck1 If so, someone would troll my ass until I get better! I rarely watch games and post for two reasons. first is I DVR and blow thru commercials. So im not in real time. Second is I don't like to commiserate the negative as I can see it happening. We are not a successful franchise. We lose more than.

Sorry if my writing rubs you the wrong way. Perhaps you got some Nalod in you as you chimed up here to tell me as such! Good for you, I'll look in the mirror and take your advice to heart. Im not above making fun of myself and fully understand My knick time here should be less. Not sure if your definition of Bullying is accurate. I respond to the post, not the person. As said, if you bring your politics to the table then thats on the poster. I don't know PhilC and his intentions are not bad. There are some that got out right racist/Antisemtic and reprimanded not by me but the Admin's. The Banned were given choices to adhere to the board or leave. Fact is Martin told me years ago to cut some things out and the reality is I was given a choice. I chose to adhere. I am a guest. For those that lost their shit and I might have nudged them over the edge? Might be some truth in that. Is that wrong? Not really, I like this place. Its ours. Not mine. We have had trolls here, very emotional fans that lose it and don't want to discuss but flat out rant nonsense. That over takes the tone I'll be gone. Maybe thats the choice, have Nalod and my foibles or 14 year olds come on to tell you "Randle sucks balls" and we should dump him. No recognizing the salary or trade kickers or what might come back in return. Redundant whining will ruin this place.
There is a price to pay for good websites. Nalod might be the worst you have to tolerate.

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Despite the media narrative we didn;t give up that much for Carmrlo

Media narrative? Thats all you got? How did the team do in the aftermath of the trade? Real results not Media Narrative&

It's interesting how Nalod always has to have one user to bully at a time. Currently it's Philc1.
Previously it was knicks1728 or whatever his handle was. For a short time it was Briggs.
It's a bit stalker-like

It is interesting.
Its also interesting that some of you let inaccurate shit slide and that creates more fans digesting falsehoods and the spew it out as facts.
You call it "bullying". I call it fact checking.
Phil can say 20 things but do I bully; all of it?
Fact is he has gotten better as he is not making up shit.

When others call him out is it bullying?

Martin calls out bullshit all the time but he lets us mostly self monitor. If not it dies. You see others sites come and go because you get a few participants who just relentlessly make shit up.

Dont; forget orangeblob man, TMS, and Playa2. I don;t ban anyone nor control a thing around here. But I call out bullshit as should most of you. This is our place to discuss and learn. Making shit up like you in the room or in Thibs head should be called out. State " I think Thibs might be thinking"; is so easy and does not reek of BS. We all read the same stuff. If you come up with something its actually a good thing to site the source. Especiall stats.
Notice when I go after a hard BS line I back it with a stat? The actual link? Does PhilC often defend it? No. Does he deflect the subject? Yes.
Have I have ever been wrong? Yes, and I admit it. Why? Whats the point of doubling down. Some of the posters when called out don;t. Its an ego thing or what?
And lets be straight, 99% of the time its about a post, not the poster. Briggs has expressed some very personal views about some items like the Primo incident as "boys will be boys"; as a most recent example. Thats on him to view it and it goes one step futher.

We have had some very interesting topics over the years with some very intelligent contributors which I found valuable and learned from. Contrast that to some really off the wall ignorant stuff and I was not alone in.

Glad you find it interesting. Feel free to correct me or anyone else to keep this site a place of honest opinions and accurate discussions.

Right, so when you called knicks1248 "Rainman" after every one of his posts, that was about the post or the poster?
Look there are posters whose posts I find annoying. You can just ignore them. I ignore Kemet for example. Used to be nixluva. But I don't stalk them.

I did stop calling him names. That I admit was a bit raw. The fucking guy was off the rails though and he did relent.
Kemet? I dont agree with many of his views but like I said its not about that. Its how its presented as either opinion or facts.
I did not call 1248 names after each post. Just the crazy ones. He came off as arrogant, redundant, made up stuff and got called out on it. One famous was how knick sere being disrespected because they the game was aired at 3pm and he goes off on how ESPN hates them, etc. I explained they were playing in Europe. Nope, was not having it. They I explained in London it was 8 pm there. Never a "Oh, yeah, forgot" Fuck that shit man. Sorry if you have an relative or one you love afflicted like a fictional movie character and my words offended you. I stopped and never used it toward an other intensely redundant posters who freaks out over the same thing over and over again.

I call it bullying because you have one poster at a time who gets in your craw, and you're up their ass immediately after each of their posts. Like you have some bot scraping the site alerting you for their posts. It would be fine if you were generally fact checking everyone. Or random posts. But you're not. As i said in my original post, it's interesting that you serially choose one poster at a time (generally till they disappear) to pick on. That is bully behavior.

I'll be honest. I don't like even your non-bullying posts. They come off as preachy/superior and vacuous at the same time. Rambling with no point except that we can't make a conclusion at this time. Rarely do you state an actual opinion and you seem to take pride in not doing so. But fine, i have the option knowing your posts don't actually have any content of value and skipping over them.

So let me ask you this. Do you consider yourself a bulkwark against ignorance on the Internet? Are you going to clean it up one user at a time? And you came to UK (a sports fan site, of all places) to do so? Maybe you should switch it up and fact check on a site that debates vaccinations.

I suppose we all have that one special poster that just grates on us. I am your special flavor.

lol nah bro you're pretty vanilla

But nobody said ice cream needs to be self aware, after all its just ice cream.

Carry on

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Despite the media narrative we didn;t give up that much for Carmrlo

Media narrative? Thats all you got? How did the team do in the aftermath of the trade? Real results not Media Narrative&

It's interesting how Nalod always has to have one user to bully at a time. Currently it's Philc1.
Previously it was knicks1728 or whatever his handle was. For a short time it was Briggs.
It's a bit stalker-like

It is interesting.
Its also interesting that some of you let inaccurate shit slide and that creates more fans digesting falsehoods and the spew it out as facts.
You call it "bullying". I call it fact checking.
Phil can say 20 things but do I bully; all of it?
Fact is he has gotten better as he is not making up shit.

When others call him out is it bullying?

Martin calls out bullshit all the time but he lets us mostly self monitor. If not it dies. You see others sites come and go because you get a few participants who just relentlessly make shit up.

Dont; forget orangeblob man, TMS, and Playa2. I don;t ban anyone nor control a thing around here. But I call out bullshit as should most of you. This is our place to discuss and learn. Making shit up like you in the room or in Thibs head should be called out. State " I think Thibs might be thinking"; is so easy and does not reek of BS. We all read the same stuff. If you come up with something its actually a good thing to site the source. Especiall stats.
Notice when I go after a hard BS line I back it with a stat? The actual link? Does PhilC often defend it? No. Does he deflect the subject? Yes.
Have I have ever been wrong? Yes, and I admit it. Why? Whats the point of doubling down. Some of the posters when called out don;t. Its an ego thing or what?
And lets be straight, 99% of the time its about a post, not the poster. Briggs has expressed some very personal views about some items like the Primo incident as "boys will be boys"; as a most recent example. Thats on him to view it and it goes one step futher.

We have had some very interesting topics over the years with some very intelligent contributors which I found valuable and learned from. Contrast that to some really off the wall ignorant stuff and I was not alone in.

Glad you find it interesting. Feel free to correct me or anyone else to keep this site a place of honest opinions and accurate discussions.

Right, so when you called knicks1248 "Rainman" after every one of his posts, that was about the post or the poster?
Look there are posters whose posts I find annoying. You can just ignore them. I ignore Kemet for example. Used to be nixluva. But I don't stalk them.

I did stop calling him names. That I admit was a bit raw. The fucking guy was off the rails though and he did relent.
Kemet? I dont agree with many of his views but like I said its not about that. Its how its presented as either opinion or facts.
I did not call 1248 names after each post. Just the crazy ones. He came off as arrogant, redundant, made up stuff and got called out on it. One famous was how knick sere being disrespected because they the game was aired at 3pm and he goes off on how ESPN hates them, etc. I explained they were playing in Europe. Nope, was not having it. They I explained in London it was 8 pm there. Never a "Oh, yeah, forgot" Fuck that shit man. Sorry if you have an relative or one you love afflicted like a fictional movie character and my words offended you. I stopped and never used it toward an other intensely redundant posters who freaks out over the same thing over and over again.

I call it bullying because you have one poster at a time who gets in your craw, and you're up their ass immediately after each of their posts. Like you have some bot scraping the site alerting you for their posts. It would be fine if you were generally fact checking everyone. Or random posts. But you're not. As i said in my original post, it's interesting that you serially choose one poster at a time (generally till they disappear) to pick on. That is bully behavior.

I'll be honest. I don't like even your non-bullying posts. They come off as preachy/superior and vacuous at the same time. Rambling with no point except that we can't make a conclusion at this time. Rarely do you state an actual opinion and you seem to take pride in not doing so. But fine, i have the option knowing your posts don't actually have any content of value and skipping over them.

So let me ask you this. Do you consider yourself a bulkwark against ignorance on the Internet? Are you going to clean it up one user at a time? And you came to UK (a sports fan site, of all places) to do so? Maybe you should switch it up and fact check on a site that debates vaccinations.

I suppose we all have that one special poster that just grates on us. I am your special flavor.

lol nah bro you're pretty vanilla

But nobody said ice cream needs to be self aware, after all its just ice cream.

Carry on

he called me a "Bully"!
Im going to Ben and Jerry's to get some "Bully Berry Swirl"!

I like Pano's. He kind of went full Nalod on me. My daughter once walked out of the room while I was debating my son. "You two are like one arguing in the mirror!". She said we were very much alike. She was correct and my sone and I both laughed at the accuracy.

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Despite the media narrative we didn;t give up that much for Carmrlo

Media narrative? Thats all you got? How did the team do in the aftermath of the trade? Real results not Media Narrative&

It's interesting how Nalod always has to have one user to bully at a time. Currently it's Philc1.
Previously it was knicks1728 or whatever his handle was. For a short time it was Briggs.
It's a bit stalker-like

It is interesting.
Its also interesting that some of you let inaccurate shit slide and that creates more fans digesting falsehoods and the spew it out as facts.
You call it "bullying". I call it fact checking.
Phil can say 20 things but do I bully; all of it?
Fact is he has gotten better as he is not making up shit.

When others call him out is it bullying?

Martin calls out bullshit all the time but he lets us mostly self monitor. If not it dies. You see others sites come and go because you get a few participants who just relentlessly make shit up.

Dont; forget orangeblob man, TMS, and Playa2. I don;t ban anyone nor control a thing around here. But I call out bullshit as should most of you. This is our place to discuss and learn. Making shit up like you in the room or in Thibs head should be called out. State " I think Thibs might be thinking"; is so easy and does not reek of BS. We all read the same stuff. If you come up with something its actually a good thing to site the source. Especiall stats.
Notice when I go after a hard BS line I back it with a stat? The actual link? Does PhilC often defend it? No. Does he deflect the subject? Yes.
Have I have ever been wrong? Yes, and I admit it. Why? Whats the point of doubling down. Some of the posters when called out don;t. Its an ego thing or what?
And lets be straight, 99% of the time its about a post, not the poster. Briggs has expressed some very personal views about some items like the Primo incident as "boys will be boys"; as a most recent example. Thats on him to view it and it goes one step futher.

We have had some very interesting topics over the years with some very intelligent contributors which I found valuable and learned from. Contrast that to some really off the wall ignorant stuff and I was not alone in.

Glad you find it interesting. Feel free to correct me or anyone else to keep this site a place of honest opinions and accurate discussions.

Right, so when you called knicks1248 "Rainman" after every one of his post that was about the post or the poster?
Look there are posters whose posts I find annoying. You can just ignore them. I ignore Kemet for example. Used to be nixluva. But I don't stalk them.

I did stop calling him names. That I admit was a bit raw. The fucking guy was off the rails though and he did relent.
Kemet? I dont agree with many of his views but like I said its not about that. Its how its presented as either opinion or facts.
I did not call 1248 names after each post. Just the crazy ones. He came off as arrogant, redundant, made up stuff and got called out on it. One famous was how knick sere being disrespected because they the game was aired at 3pm and he goes off on how ESPN hates them, etc. I explained they were playing in Europe. Nope, was not having it. They I explained in London it was 8 pm there. Never ;Oh, yeah, forgot; Fuck that shit man. Sorry if you have an relative or one you love afflicted like a fictional movie character and my words offended you. I stopped and never used it toward an other intensely redundant posters who freaks out over the same thing over and over again.

I call it bullying because you have one poster at a time who gets in your craw, and you're up their ass immediately after each of their posts. Like you have some bot scraping the site alerting you for their posts. It would be fine if you were generally fact checking everyone. Or random posts. But you're not. As i said in my original post, it's interesting that you serially choose one poster at a time (generally till they disappear) to pick on. That is bully behavior.

I'll be honest. I don't like even your non-bullying posts. They come off as preachy/superior and vacuous at the same time. Rambling with no point except that we can't make a conclusion at this time. Rarely do you state an actual opinion and you seem to take pride in not doing so. But fine, i have the option knowing your posts don't actually have any content of value and skipping over them.

So let me ask you this. Do you consider yourself a bulkwark against ignorance on the Internet? Are you going to clean it up one user at a time? And you came to UK (a sports fan site, of all places) to do so? Maybe you should switch it up and fact check on a site that debates vaccinations.

I suppose we all have that one special poster that just grates on us. I am your special flavor.

lol nah bro you're pretty vanilla

But nobody said ice cream needs to be self aware, after all its just ice cream.

Carry on

he called me a "Bully"!
Im going to Ben and Jerry's to get some Bully Berry Swirl!

I like Pano's. He kind of went full Nalod on me. My daughter once walked out of the room while I was debating my son. ;You two are like one arguing in the mirror;. She said we were very much alike. She was correct and my sone and I both laughed at the accuracy.

That's some Trump level shit: accuse your accuser of the same crime. Where i come from, bullying and calling out a bully are not the same things.
Granted, I'll admit it's low level bullying.

Anyway, i said what i came to say it's nothing personal, and it seems you may not have recognized the level or stalker-poster you were exhibiting. If i shed light on it for you, I'm glad. If not, I'll let the admins handle it from here.

It's nothing personal. I'm just calling it as i see it .
I'm sure you're an ok guy when you're not bored on the Internet.

So In the words of fishmike, a guy who has a place in my heart since our ridiculous race down 33rd st in 2006: Carry on!

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Despite the media narrative we didn;t give up that much for Carmrlo

Media narrative? Thats all you got? How did the team do in the aftermath of the trade? Real results not Media Narrative&

It's interesting how Nalod always has to have one user to bully at a time. Currently it's Philc1.
Previously it was knicks1728 or whatever his handle was. For a short time it was Briggs.
It's a bit stalker-like

It is interesting.
Its also interesting that some of you let inaccurate shit slide and that creates more fans digesting falsehoods and the spew it out as facts.
You call it "bullying". I call it fact checking.
Phil can say 20 things but do I bully; all of it?
Fact is he has gotten better as he is not making up shit.

When others call him out is it bullying?

Martin calls out bullshit all the time but he lets us mostly self monitor. If not it dies. You see others sites come and go because you get a few participants who just relentlessly make shit up.

Dont; forget orangeblob man, TMS, and Playa2. I don;t ban anyone nor control a thing around here. But I call out bullshit as should most of you. This is our place to discuss and learn. Making shit up like you in the room or in Thibs head should be called out. State " I think Thibs might be thinking"; is so easy and does not reek of BS. We all read the same stuff. If you come up with something its actually a good thing to site the source. Especiall stats.
Notice when I go after a hard BS line I back it with a stat? The actual link? Does PhilC often defend it? No. Does he deflect the subject? Yes.
Have I have ever been wrong? Yes, and I admit it. Why? Whats the point of doubling down. Some of the posters when called out don;t. Its an ego thing or what?
And lets be straight, 99% of the time its about a post, not the poster. Briggs has expressed some very personal views about some items like the Primo incident as "boys will be boys"; as a most recent example. Thats on him to view it and it goes one step futher.

We have had some very interesting topics over the years with some very intelligent contributors which I found valuable and learned from. Contrast that to some really off the wall ignorant stuff and I was not alone in.

Glad you find it interesting. Feel free to correct me or anyone else to keep this site a place of honest opinions and accurate discussions.

Right, so when you called knicks1248 "Rainman" after every one of his post that was about the post or the poster?
Look there are posters whose posts I find annoying. You can just ignore them. I ignore Kemet for example. Used to be nixluva. But I don't stalk them.

I did stop calling him names. That I admit was a bit raw. The fucking guy was off the rails though and he did relent.
Kemet? I dont agree with many of his views but like I said its not about that. Its how its presented as either opinion or facts.
I did not call 1248 names after each post. Just the crazy ones. He came off as arrogant, redundant, made up stuff and got called out on it. One famous was how knick sere being disrespected because they the game was aired at 3pm and he goes off on how ESPN hates them, etc. I explained they were playing in Europe. Nope, was not having it. They I explained in London it was 8 pm there. Never ;Oh, yeah, forgot; Fuck that shit man. Sorry if you have an relative or one you love afflicted like a fictional movie character and my words offended you. I stopped and never used it toward an other intensely redundant posters who freaks out over the same thing over and over again.

I call it bullying because you have one poster at a time who gets in your craw, and you're up their ass immediately after each of their posts. Like you have some bot scraping the site alerting you for their posts. It would be fine if you were generally fact checking everyone. Or random posts. But you're not. As i said in my original post, it's interesting that you serially choose one poster at a time (generally till they disappear) to pick on. That is bully behavior.

I'll be honest. I don't like even your non-bullying posts. They come off as preachy/superior and vacuous at the same time. Rambling with no point except that we can't make a conclusion at this time. Rarely do you state an actual opinion and you seem to take pride in not doing so. But fine, i have the option knowing your posts don't actually have any content of value and skipping over them.

So let me ask you this. Do you consider yourself a bulkwark against ignorance on the Internet? Are you going to clean it up one user at a time? And you came to UK (a sports fan site, of all places) to do so? Maybe you should switch it up and fact check on a site that debates vaccinations.

I suppose we all have that one special poster that just grates on us. I am your special flavor.

lol nah bro you're pretty vanilla

But nobody said ice cream needs to be self aware, after all its just ice cream.

Carry on

he called me a "Bully"!
Im going to Ben and Jerry's to get some Bully Berry Swirl!

I like Pano's. He kind of went full Nalod on me. My daughter once walked out of the room while I was debating my son. ;You two are like one arguing in the mirror;. She said we were very much alike. She was correct and my sone and I both laughed at the accuracy.

That's some Trump level shit: accuse your accuser of the same crime. Where i come from, bullying and calling out a bully are not the same things.
Granted, I'll admit it's low level bullying.

Anyway, i said what i came to say it's nothing personal, and it seems you may not have recognized the level or stalker-poster you were exhibiting. If i shed light on it for you, I'm glad. If not, I'll let the admins handle it from here.

It's nothing personal. I'm just calling it as i see it .
I'm sure you're an ok guy when you're not bored on the Internet.

So In the words of fishmike, a guy who has a place in my heart since our ridiculous race down 33rd st in 2006: Carry on!

Goddamit! Can't you see what's happening to this board? The longer Randle stays on this team the more this board gets torn apart. Rose needs to do the right thing before it's too late. #traderandle.

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Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:

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Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Despite the media narrative we didn;t give up that much for Carmrlo

Media narrative? Thats all you got? How did the team do in the aftermath of the trade? Real results not Media Narrative&

It's interesting how Nalod always has to have one user to bully at a time. Currently it's Philc1.
Previously it was knicks1728 or whatever his handle was. For a short time it was Briggs.
It's a bit stalker-like

It is interesting.
Its also interesting that some of you let inaccurate shit slide and that creates more fans digesting falsehoods and the spew it out as facts.
You call it "bullying". I call it fact checking.
Phil can say 20 things but do I bully; all of it?
Fact is he has gotten better as he is not making up shit.

When others call him out is it bullying?

Martin calls out bullshit all the time but he lets us mostly self monitor. If not it dies. You see others sites come and go because you get a few participants who just relentlessly make shit up.

Dont; forget orangeblob man, TMS, and Playa2. I don;t ban anyone nor control a thing around here. But I call out bullshit as should most of you. This is our place to discuss and learn. Making shit up like you in the room or in Thibs head should be called out. State " I think Thibs might be thinking"; is so easy and does not reek of BS. We all read the same stuff. If you come up with something its actually a good thing to site the source. Especiall stats.
Notice when I go after a hard BS line I back it with a stat? The actual link? Does PhilC often defend it? No. Does he deflect the subject? Yes.
Have I have ever been wrong? Yes, and I admit it. Why? Whats the point of doubling down. Some of the posters when called out don;t. Its an ego thing or what?
And lets be straight, 99% of the time its about a post, not the poster. Briggs has expressed some very personal views about some items like the Primo incident as "boys will be boys"; as a most recent example. Thats on him to view it and it goes one step futher.

We have had some very interesting topics over the years with some very intelligent contributors which I found valuable and learned from. Contrast that to some really off the wall ignorant stuff and I was not alone in.

Glad you find it interesting. Feel free to correct me or anyone else to keep this site a place of honest opinions and accurate discussions.

Right, so when you called knicks1248 "Rainman" after every one of his post that was about the post or the poster?
Look there are posters whose posts I find annoying. You can just ignore them. I ignore Kemet for example. Used to be nixluva. But I don't stalk them.

I did stop calling him names. That I admit was a bit raw. The fucking guy was off the rails though and he did relent.
Kemet? I dont agree with many of his views but like I said its not about that. Its how its presented as either opinion or facts.
I did not call 1248 names after each post. Just the crazy ones. He came off as arrogant, redundant, made up stuff and got called out on it. One famous was how knick sere being disrespected because they the game was aired at 3pm and he goes off on how ESPN hates them, etc. I explained they were playing in Europe. Nope, was not having it. They I explained in London it was 8 pm there. Never ;Oh, yeah, forgot; Fuck that shit man. Sorry if you have an relative or one you love afflicted like a fictional movie character and my words offended you. I stopped and never used it toward an other intensely redundant posters who freaks out over the same thing over and over again.

I call it bullying because you have one poster at a time who gets in your craw, and you're up their ass immediately after each of their posts. Like you have some bot scraping the site alerting you for their posts. It would be fine if you were generally fact checking everyone. Or random posts. But you're not. As i said in my original post, it's interesting that you serially choose one poster at a time (generally till they disappear) to pick on. That is bully behavior.

I'll be honest. I don't like even your non-bullying posts. They come off as preachy/superior and vacuous at the same time. Rambling with no point except that we can't make a conclusion at this time. Rarely do you state an actual opinion and you seem to take pride in not doing so. But fine, i have the option knowing your posts don't actually have any content of value and skipping over them.

So let me ask you this. Do you consider yourself a bulkwark against ignorance on the Internet? Are you going to clean it up one user at a time? And you came to UK (a sports fan site, of all places) to do so? Maybe you should switch it up and fact check on a site that debates vaccinations.

I suppose we all have that one special poster that just grates on us. I am your special flavor.

lol nah bro you're pretty vanilla

But nobody said ice cream needs to be self aware, after all its just ice cream.

Carry on

he called me a "Bully"!
Im going to Ben and Jerry's to get some Bully Berry Swirl!

I like Pano's. He kind of went full Nalod on me. My daughter once walked out of the room while I was debating my son. ;You two are like one arguing in the mirror;. She said we were very much alike. She was correct and my sone and I both laughed at the accuracy.

That's some Trump level shit: accuse your accuser of the same crime. Where i come from, bullying and calling out a bully are not the same things.
Granted, I'll admit it's low level bullying.

Anyway, i said what i came to say it's nothing personal, and it seems you may not have recognized the level or stalker-poster you were exhibiting. If i shed light on it for you, I'm glad. If not, I'll let the admins handle it from here.

It's nothing personal. I'm just calling it as i see it .
I'm sure you're an ok guy when you're not bored on the Internet.

So In the words of fishmike, a guy who has a place in my heart since our ridiculous race down 33rd st in 2006: Carry on!

Can't be personal because its not. No worries there.
I don't see the "bullying". Its not like I find a weak ass poster and jump on his shit until he goes crazy and gets banned. Not like I know any of you up front and personal. Phil got jumped on by others who knew him from a Jets site were he got banned.
I jumped on some of his posts for innacuracy. I did not accuse you of "Bullying". We are jousting/debatimg. Phil does not answer questions of defend the idiocy of some of his posts. he goes into "elf" or "8th pick" like an adolescent.
PhilC: Randle's contract is the worst.
Nalod: he is the 46th highest paid player and that will change as new contracts come on line.
Crickets.
Adults converse. Defend an opinion.

LEAVE PHILC ALONE!

Panos wrote:Train has left the station.
Water under the bridge.
Past is past.
Why are we still talking about this?
Next.
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Papabear Says
Was this bullying me or just being board. it's all good

Panos wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Melo was statistically the most clutch shooter in the league at the time.

What statistic was that? Please share. Because my eyeball test remembers quite a different story.

Bully?

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Melo was statistically the most clutch shooter in the league at the time.

What statistic was that? Please share. Because my eyeball test remembers quite a different story.

Bully?

1. Keep me out of this

2. Can't run like Tony Randall and be a bully.

Panos wrote:And no, i don't have any relatives that are autistic, since you seen afraid to use the word, because you'd have to admit that that is what you were labeling that poster. Incessantly.

Awesome! You Got all Nalod cute on that! Its ok, you called out Gustav also asking for accuracy! Jumped on Papa like you "Time Cop" asking "why we talking about that". Pot calling the kettle black. Panos goes Nalod more than he thinks.
Afraid? Trying to be sensitive if you have a son or a fucked up cat who might be afflicted. Raymond Babbit, as played by Dustin Hoffman (won an Oscar for this role) suffered from autism and Savant Syndrome. Too bad Knicks1248 did not have the Savant thing as he be spot on with statistics and I doubt anyone would question it!

I had occurred to me to call him a "crackhead". would that have been bothersome to you? Do you have a fucked up cat at home that might be afflicted with that?

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Melo was statistically the most clutch shooter in the league at the time.

What statistic was that? Please share. Because my eyeball test remembers quite a different story.

Bully?

1. Keep me out of this

2. Can't run like Tony Randall and be a bully.

The actor "Tony Randall"? Felix Unger Tony Randall?

Nalod wrote:[Can't be personal because its not. No worries there.
I don't see the ;bullying. Its not like I find a weak ass poster and jump on his shit until he goes crazy and gets banned. Not like I know any of you up front and personal. Phil got jumped on by others who knew him from a Jets site were he got banned.
I jumped on some of his posts for innacuracy. I did not accuse you of ;Bullying;. We are jousting/debatimg. Phil does not answer questions of defend the idiocy of some of his posts. he goes into ;elft; or ;8th pick; like an adolescent.
PhilC: Randle's contract is the worst.
Nalod: he is the 46th highest paid player and that will change as new contracts come on line.
Crickets.
Adults converse. Defend an opinion.

That's what it looks like from here.
I'm not defending PhilC's opinions. I don't agree with most of them. Nor his presentation of them.
PhilC says Obi can't throw it in the ocean. In fact, Obi is shooting pretty well. I also disagree with the trade Randle for a bag of balls rhetoric.
Still doesn't warrant your stalking of his posts.
Feel free to ignore him.

Nalod wrote:LEAVE PHILC ALONE!

First you claim not to be bullying and then post this. Classic bully behavior.

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:And no, i don't have any relatives that are autistic, since you seen afraid to use the word, because you'd have to admit that that is what you were labeling that poster. Incessantly.

Awesome! You Got all Nalod cute on that! Its ok, you called out Gustav also asking for accuracy! Jumped on Papa like you "Time Cop" asking "why we talking about that". Pot calling the kettle black. Panos goes Nalod more than he thinks.
Afraid? Trying to be sensitive if you have a son or a fucked up cat who might be afflicted. Raymond Babbit, as played by Dustin Hoffman (won an Oscar for this role) suffered from autism and Savant Syndrome. Too bad Knicks1248 did not have the Savant thing as he be spot on with statistics and I doubt anyone would question it!

I had occurred to me to call him a "crackhead". would that have been bothersome to you? Do you have a fucked up cat at home that might be afflicted with that?

So weak. I never said you cannont disagree or call out a poster on the site. That's what it is for. From the start I said it was interesting how you fixate on one user at a time and get up their ass constantly until they go away and you find a new target. Apples and Oranges. You're trying to deflect now.

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:[Can't be personal because its not. No worries there.
I don't see the ;bullying. Its not like I find a weak ass poster and jump on his shit until he goes crazy and gets banned. Not like I know any of you up front and personal. Phil got jumped on by others who knew him from a Jets site were he got banned.
I jumped on some of his posts for innacuracy. I did not accuse you of ;Bullying;. We are jousting/debatimg. Phil does not answer questions of defend the idiocy of some of his posts. he goes into ;elft; or ;8th pick; like an adolescent.
PhilC: Randle's contract is the worst.
Nalod: he is the 46th highest paid player and that will change as new contracts come on line.
Crickets.
Adults converse. Defend an opinion.

That's what it looks like from here.
I'm not defending PhilC's opinions. I don't agree with most of them. Nor his presentation of them.
PhilC says Obi can't throw it in the ocean. In fact, Obi is shooting pretty well. I also disagree with the trade Randle for a bag of balls rhetoric.
Still doesn't warrant your stalking of his posts.
Feel free to ignore him.

Nalod wrote:LEAVE PHILC ALONE!

First you claim not to be bullying and then post this. Classic bully behavior.

Your really no fun. Sarcasm lost on you. You pulling some church lady shit here.
Feel free to ignore me. If not, have a fun take on this.
PhilC has some funny putbacks and we have LOL’d on them.
Bully for you.

The leave Brittney alone thing? C’mon man, that was 10 years ago. This is not bullying. Its me saying your being over sensitive going on defending him. Oh wait, your saying im bullying you? Dear goodness, what Have I done? Are you ok? Do you feel detached form the social group here? Suicidal? Inhibited to earn a decent living? Are your grades or self esteem suffering?

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:[Can't be personal because its not. No worries there.
I don't see the ;bullying. Its not like I find a weak ass poster and jump on his shit until he goes crazy and gets banned. Not like I know any of you up front and personal. Phil got jumped on by others who knew him from a Jets site were he got banned.
I jumped on some of his posts for innacuracy. I did not accuse you of ;Bullying;. We are jousting/debatimg. Phil does not answer questions of defend the idiocy of some of his posts. he goes into ;elft; or ;8th pick; like an adolescent.
PhilC: Randle's contract is the worst.
Nalod: he is the 46th highest paid player and that will change as new contracts come on line.
Crickets.
Adults converse. Defend an opinion.

That's what it looks like from here.
I'm not defending PhilC's opinions. I don't agree with most of them. Nor his presentation of them.
PhilC says Obi can't throw it in the ocean. In fact, Obi is shooting pretty well. I also disagree with the trade Randle for a bag of balls rhetoric.
Still doesn't warrant your stalking of his posts.
Feel free to ignore him.

Nalod wrote:LEAVE PHILC ALONE!

First you claim not to be bullying and then post this. Classic bully behavior.

Your really no fun. Sarcasm lost on you. You pulling some church lady shit here.
Feel free to ignore me. If not, have a fun take on this.
PhilC has some funny putbacks and we have LOL’d on them.
Bully for you.

The leave Brittney alone thing? C’mon man, that was 10 years ago. This is not bullying. Its me saying your being over sensitive going on defending him. Oh wait, your saying im bullying you? Dear goodness, what Have I done? Are you ok? Do you feel detached form the social group here? Suicidal? Inhibited to earn a decent living? Are your grades or self esteem suffering?

It's clear my message is not getting across. I said what I had to say. Good day to you, sir.

Panos wrote:It's clear my message is not getting across.

Most can tell the difference between a douche and being sarcastic. However stats show (Panos you can fact-check this) that the people who CAN'T tell the difference are always a douche.

...Also Gustov was right about Melo. Maybe not game winners but Melo's "crunch time" stats and 4th qtr scoring were among the league's best when he got here from Den and his first couple years here as well

People taking bout bullying on a fan forum?
Think that is impossible unless your sensitivity level is that of a 7 year old.
People talk shit, disagree, add a few pertinent facts but ultimately still remain close minded to their opinion. That's fandom.
Some name calling? Give it back, don't take it serious, don't go overboard or make it personal.
Think most of us have done that with our good friends over a beer. Debates get heated. Say sorry if you say something stupid and move on.
Maybe keep an open mind to others ridiculous opinions. They usually have a bit of truth.
Realize most people's opinions start from the frustration of being a Knick fan.

Posters are pretty consistent on here. Some like to focus on opinions over facts. Some focus on scapegoating. Some focus on every single "advanced" stat to erase the eye test. Some like to stick some jabs to those that don't post like they do Etc, etc. Kinda like reading all the posts. Get a kick out of the dumb ones too. And let's face it, no one here is knowledgeable enough to not post their share of those.

Back to thread topic. Melo was the best player we ever had!!

HofstraBBall wrote:People taking bout bullying on a fan forum?
Think that is impossible unless your sensitivity level is that of a 7 year old.
People talk shit, disagree, add a few pertinent facts but ultimately still remain close minded to their opinion. That's fandom.
Some name calling? Give it back, don't take it serious, don't go overboard or make it personal.
Think most of us have done that with our good friends over a beer. Debates get heated. Say sorry if you say something stupid and move on.
Maybe keep an open mind to others ridiculous opinions. They usually have a bit of truth.
Realize most people's opinions start from the frustration of being a Knick fan.

Posters are pretty consistent on here. Some like to focus on opinions over facts. Some focus on scapegoating. Some focus on every single "advanced" stat to erase the eye test. Some like to stick some jabs to those that don't post like they do Etc, etc. Kinda like reading all the posts. Get a kick out of the dumb ones too. And let's face it, no one here is knowledgeable enough to not post their share of those.

Back to thread topic. Melo was the best player we ever had!!

I agree. I look at it like a bunch of dudes at a bar or at a lunch table talking sports, shit, with some decorum to not get personal. Can’t really get personal unless you bring personal shit to the table. But every once in a while some dude comes to the table and thinks they are more clever than they are and come out with some dumb shit. Its cute for a while. Then the regulars start looking at each other and be like “wtf”, where this dude come from?
If we all agreed there be little to talk about. But when debated you either bring facts or some reason. If you bring lame deflections or make shit up its rejected. If Im willing to take time to look up stuff and defend a view and im hit with “yeah, what about ELF?” Kind of response you damn well know Im coming back. I would expect others to jump on my shit if I bailed out with similar.

Lets talk about Papa for a moment. He messed up on his timeline. Who jumped on his shit? Panos!!!!!
LOL……

Papa had R&B hit record in the 70’s, hung with Black jesus and drove him a Caddilac back when that was the shit. He gets a pass cuz he don’t say “oh, Melo and DM were the same age, how old was Elf when PHX let him go”. No, we let it slide cuz he not double down on a mistake. Plus, He had a hit record in the 70’s when I was in grade school and he hung with Earl. I was not hanging with Earl. I was hanging with crazy Jimmy from around the corner who was one of 8 kids.
Papa is a gone by era of cool! Papa did not come of age in the era of Starks and ewing…. He knows Howard Komives was not the answer and Cazzie was better than Bradley, but Cazzie needed love and money. Glad to have him!