We have a deep enough team to matchup with everybody. But thibs and most coaches I’m guessing rather have one line up for the entire season. I don’t think our one lineups are good enough. The triangle remains every game (JB, RJ, Randle). The other 2 positions should be based on matchups. So for this game as an example, I would’ve liked to see Cam on Grant. Other games without a true center or with a mobile center /PF, we use Sims who’s more mobile defensively.
blkexec wrote:Now I’m not saying Obi is better but…..there was a stretch where Obi was in the game and we had a 10 - 14 pt lead with Randle and grimes on the bench. As soon as Randle came in for Obi, the teams offense and defense slowly went downhill. Was it all Randles fault of course not. But ironically this happens a lot which is why I said this team just runs different when Obi and IQ are in. I believe Sims was in the game as well. Yes Sims is undersized but sims Obi iq increases our team energy with momentum swinging plays. Something we don’t get from the starting unit (RJ and Randle) since they rely only on their shooting to impact the game. When shots aren’t falling, there’s no impact. Not the case with sims, Obi and iq. And recently Mitch has looked slower due to injuries. I’m excited to at least see these guys hit the floor again (sims Obi iq) and see if the momentum increases or decreases whenever Randle sits for a while or after he comes into the game. Yes there are times I’m like man glad Randle is in the game. But then like yesterday I’m like we was up 10 then Randle came in and it’s a tie game where we now need Randle to dig us out of this hole that was created when he came in. Granted there was no saving needed when he came in the game smiling and happy. He even took and made a quick 3 off the bench which might have been what caused the downfall. After that Randle took a heat check 3 multiple times and bricked it. He let his man blow by him just like RJ did in this game. The team went from momentum plays with second unit to depleting plays that kills momentum. There’s a mix of players that work (buried behind the starting unit) and some don’t (they are in the starting unit). Either the FO needs to make some decisions or there will be fingers pointed everywhere including at the coach.
Knicks were up and Grant was held to 2 baskets in first. Obi came in and Grant started to score easily. Which really got him going. But you probably missed that. The 14 point lead was erased with Grant on a roll, RJ being RJ, our big three going into one on one mode and oh yeah Simons hitting everything. Bigger change during that run was Grimes and IQ both coming out. RJ may play defense but man its like watching a middle school kid yanking up offensive shots and forgetting there are other players on the team. Frustrating. Randle is equally as frustrating at times but he seems to understand when he does not have it going and that he is expected to pass to others that can create. ie. Brunson.
Tired of cats saying Obi makes the team better. Trade Randle, fine. But stop with the Obi narrative. He cannot play defense. Grant drove on him like a rag doll. He has no clue what to do on defensive rotations. Has no idea how to create. Missed an easy pass off a drive to MR. He DOES NOT stay around on the defensive side for rebounds. Just watch him when the opposing team takes a shot. He forgets a PF has rebounding responsibilities. He had it going early with three. Maybe he gets that back. But what else is he offering? At least with the Frank BS, it was valid that the kid could play defense. Rather trade Obi for Frank immediately. At least the guys crying for him to play more will have some valid reasons.
Do agree that playing RJ 44, Randle 39 and Brunson 41 should not be the norm though. Feel we have several to take some of those RJ and JB minutes but cant really say we have anyone to take more of the Randle minutes. You would have like to see Cam on Grant? Mee too. Except he was hurt.
blkexec wrote:We have a deep enough team to matchup with everybody. But thibs and most coaches I’m guessing rather have one line up for the entire season. I don’t think our one lineups are good enough. The triangle remains every game (JB, RJ, Randle). The other 2 positions should be based on matchups. So for this game as an example, I would’ve liked to see Cam on Grant. Other games without a true center or with a mobile center /PF, we use Sims who’s more mobile defensively.
Thibs has run the gamut of lineups.
Why are you talking about putting Cam on Grant when Cam is hurt?
Alpha1971 wrote:Funny thing. Had Brunson hit the last shot in regulation our reactions would have been completely different.
Or if that horsesh t foul call during the blazers last possession in regulation had been overturned like it should have been we win
Thibs says team should have adjusted to the refs whistles. Fair enough
Though i hope he considers the irony of his statement when he plays RJ for team high minutes when RJ couldn't hit his shots or seemingly defend anyone
RJ IMO is hellbent on trying to average 20/game to the detriment of the team.
Chandler wrote:
Thibs says team should have adjusted to the refs whistles. Fair enoughThough i hope he considers the irony of his statement when he plays RJ for team high minutes when RJ couldn't hit his shots or seemingly defend anyone
RJ IMO is hellbent on trying to average 20/game to the detriment of the team.
Not a ton of options, especially with Grimes prob on a min restriction.
You want more Fournier?
martin wrote:Chandler wrote:
Thibs says team should have adjusted to the refs whistles. Fair enoughThough i hope he considers the irony of his statement when he plays RJ for team high minutes when RJ couldn't hit his shots or seemingly defend anyone
RJ IMO is hellbent on trying to average 20/game to the detriment of the team.
Not a ton of options, especially with Grimes prob on a min restriction.
You want more Fournier?
Agree that RJ played badly on offense. Should not have played 44 minutes.
With that said, agree of limited options and not to mention no one was able to stop Grant or Simons.
Damn, tough loss. I still need to watch this game tho regardless. Recap to come
We lost this game because of uneven referee play no team should go to the line 45 times to our 20 something that right there is the game …. Blazers should work real hard to have that refs group continue to ref their games …
Knicks win this game with evenly called refereeing… nothing more needs to be said… we are the better team, refs were the blazers 6th man on the court last night .
So Grimes was our 2nd best player behind Brunson. Why he didn't get playing time in the second half is beyond me. RJ actually had a relatively solid game, yeah it wasn't his best and he shot poorly from the outside. But he took it to the hoop with force and got smacked upside the head every damn time. The refs really dropped the ball. Wally is a moron, " yeah I hated the charge call when I used to play, so the defensive players should not do that" STFU Wally. Sims is becoming our best center, slowly but surely. More two way than Mitch already and a better defender and rebounder than iHart. If iHart had some plays run where he could show his passing more things would be WAY different but oh well. Tough loss. 3 point defense is a bit better but is still pretty bad
More stuff like this would get me interested in watching the Knicks again. I can't deal with the no defense, ISO and low effort stuff. It just zaps my interest. Too bad the front office wants to trade one of the players highlighted here for draft compensation.
blkexec wrote:We have a deep enough team to matchup with everybody. But thibs and most coaches I’m guessing rather have one line up for the entire season. I don’t think our one lineups are good enough. The triangle remains every game (JB, RJ, Randle). The other 2 positions should be based on matchups. So for this game as an example, I would’ve liked to see Cam on Grant. Other games without a true center or with a mobile center /PF, we use Sims who’s more mobile defensively.
Tell me you didn't watch the game without telling me you didn't watch the game....or the boxscore. smh
martin wrote:Chandler wrote:
Thibs says team should have adjusted to the refs whistles. Fair enoughThough i hope he considers the irony of his statement when he plays RJ for team high minutes when RJ couldn't hit his shots or seemingly defend anyone
RJ IMO is hellbent on trying to average 20/game to the detriment of the team.
Not a ton of options, especially with Grimes prob on a min restriction.
You want more Fournier?
Fair enough that it’s a challenge. But you have to admit it makes no sense for rj to be leading the team in minutes when he’s playing poorly at both ends
And to the EF point, when RJ is on one of those particularly bad nights (it happens to the best of them) he should sit more and maybe EF should get some burn. He at least offers a better chance of stretching the floor. Teams right now are sagging off RJ and not even trying to deny him the ball. They want the ball in his hands
I think he’ll turn it around but the point about the irony of thibs comments still stands
Chandler wrote:martin wrote:Chandler wrote:
Thibs says team should have adjusted to the refs whistles. Fair enoughThough i hope he considers the irony of his statement when he plays RJ for team high minutes when RJ couldn't hit his shots or seemingly defend anyone
RJ IMO is hellbent on trying to average 20/game to the detriment of the team.
Not a ton of options, especially with Grimes prob on a min restriction.
You want more Fournier?
Fair enough that it’s a challenge. But you have to admit it makes no sense for rj to be leading the team in minutes when he’s playing poorly at both ends
And to the EF point, when RJ is on one of those particularly bad nights (it happens to the best of them) he should sit more and maybe EF should get some burn. He at least offers a better chance of stretching the floor. Teams right now are sagging off RJ and not even trying to deny him the ball. They want the ball in his hands
I think he’ll turn it around but the point about the irony of thibs comments still stands
Man I created a thread almost implying I wanna get rid of RJ, I'm all in man lol
