Dallas currently has a losing record and isn’t a good team. Knicks own Dallas pick 11-30 and I feel like even a healthy Doncic still caps them as a play-in team. If Doncic runs into any health issue, this pick could potentially land top 10 and we would have to wait. But I think the most likely range right now is 11-17. So what do they do with that pick? It’s a huge opportunity. I don’t think holding 2 picks in the teens allows them to move up much in this draft. But it gives them 2 cracks at a high level player who’s a sleeper outside of the top 10, or a big piece for a draft day trade. This draft is strong at the top, not overly deep, but deep enough where there’s always talent in the middle. The question is can it net a high level player on the trade market? I keep going back to that Jerami grant trade as a blueprint. He was trade for 1 future protected pick. That’s the sort of player you target via trade that is available every year. Obviously a blockbuster trade is an option too. But for as mediocre as this team is currently, we have Brunson and a lot of room for growth with the draft assets, and we may have caught a break with a Dallas pick that could land favorably in the 11-15 range.
I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.
Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
Knixkik wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
Something reasonable for Turner and Buddy would help a lot.
I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Knixkik wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
lol not happening. No team in the Knicks position gives up a first round pick for a guy who is more injury prone than Mitch and will be an UFA.
At least set your trade expectations up to be more in line with what teams would give up in this situation.
Mitch is on a descending 4 year contract that starts at $17M and ends at $13M, that's an incredible value contract for his output and situation.
2023 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]2023 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2023 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
We could have 3 picks in this draft.. god forbid KP/Beal stay healthy for 70ish games they could def be a play in team and cough up that pick as well. Either way we are getting a FRP from Was and Det in the next 5 years. Most likely Dallas this year as well
martin wrote:I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Exactly!!
Do not trade these picks this season - this draft is supposedly going to be the best draft ever. Get talent in this draft.
Dump Quickly and anyone else for 2023 picks (23 - the jordan number!)
Caseloads wrote:martin wrote:I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Exactly!!Do not trade these picks this season - this draft is supposedly going to be the best draft ever. Get talent in this draft.
Dump Quickly and anyone else for 2023 picks (23 - the jordan number!)
Best draft ever at pick #1 and #2
wargames wrote:Caseloads wrote:martin wrote:I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Exactly!!Do not trade these picks this season - this draft is supposedly going to be the best draft ever. Get talent in this draft.
Dump Quickly and anyone else for 2023 picks (23 - the jordan number!)
Best draft ever at pick #1 and #2
the rest of the picks should be solid in the first round too
Caseloads wrote:wargames wrote:Caseloads wrote:martin wrote:I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Exactly!!Do not trade these picks this season - this draft is supposedly going to be the best draft ever. Get talent in this draft.
Dump Quickly and anyone else for 2023 picks (23 - the jordan number!)
Best draft ever at pick #1 and #2
the rest of the picks should be solid in the first round too
A lot of solid wing sized creators. There should be solid rotation player available. The question comes down to how many roster spots will be available and how realistic will it be for the organization to bring in three new faces at once. Do you cut McBride? Sims? Is there an IQ or Rose trade on the horizon? At least two of those picks are being traded IMHO.
Caseloads wrote:martin wrote:I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Exactly!!Do not trade these picks this season - this draft is supposedly going to be the best draft ever. Get talent in this draft.
Dump Quickly and anyone else for 2023 picks (23 - the jordan number!)
I feel like every year is the best draft ever. But if you fast forward to 5 years later, it's the worst draft ever. 
blkexec wrote:Caseloads wrote:martin wrote:I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Exactly!!Do not trade these picks this season - this draft is supposedly going to be the best draft ever. Get talent in this draft.
Dump Quickly and anyone else for 2023 picks (23 - the jordan number!)
I feel like every year is the best draft ever. But if you fast forward to 5 years later, it's the worst draft ever.
For the Knicks anyway
I feel people need to let the Steph Curry go. We have SGA and Spida to continue the misery now.
BigDaddyG wrote:Caseloads wrote:wargames wrote:Caseloads wrote:martin wrote:I'm hoping the pick looks like #11, #12, or #13.
Exactly!!Do not trade these picks this season - this draft is supposedly going to be the best draft ever. Get talent in this draft.
Dump Quickly and anyone else for 2023 picks (23 - the jordan number!)
Best draft ever at pick #1 and #2
the rest of the picks should be solid in the first round too
A lot of solid wing sized creators. There should be solid rotation player available. The question comes down to how many roster spots will be available and how realistic will it be for the organization to bring in three new faces at once. Do you cut McBride? Sims? Is there an IQ or Rose trade on the horizon? At least two of those picks are being traded IMHO.
You don't need to cut anyone and you still have plenty of options. Consolidate picks. Trade any of Rose, Fournier, Randle, RJ (don't hate me!).
I think the Knicks will end up taking 2 players and I hope their own pick sneak tanks to the top 
If we end up with 3 picks one of my picks would be edey from Purdue. wont go top 10 but reminds me a lot of yao ming---cannot pass that.
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
lol not happening. No team in the Knicks position gives up a first round pick for a guy who is more injury prone than Mitch and will be an UFA.
At least set your trade expectations up to be more in line with what teams would give up in this situation.
Mitch is on a descending 4 year contract that starts at $17M and ends at $13M, that's an incredible value contract for his output and situation.
It would be a protected pick (not a Knicks pick) but Turner is really good. You underrate him. And he’s CAA now so the extension stuff would already be arranged.
Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
lol not happening. No team in the Knicks position gives up a first round pick for a guy who is more injury prone than Mitch and will be an UFA.
At least set your trade expectations up to be more in line with what teams would give up in this situation.
Mitch is on a descending 4 year contract that starts at $17M and ends at $13M, that's an incredible value contract for his output and situation.
It would be a protected pick (not a Knicks pick) but Turner is really good. You underrate him. And he’s CAA now so the extension stuff would already be arranged.
dude he's a contract year player.
Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
lol not happening. No team in the Knicks position gives up a first round pick for a guy who is more injury prone than Mitch and will be an UFA.
At least set your trade expectations up to be more in line with what teams would give up in this situation.
Mitch is on a descending 4 year contract that starts at $17M and ends at $13M, that's an incredible value contract for his output and situation.
It would be a protected pick (not a Knicks pick) but Turner is really good. You underrate him. And he’s CAA now so the extension stuff would already be arranged.
Unless you are a deep playoff team, you never never never risk a 1st round pick and player. The Knicks are not a set in stone playoff team.
You do not trade a decent young player and a pick even if you have CAA connections, it is just not smart asset management cause you could easily lose both player and pick for a 3+ month rental. This is no Brunson situation - the limelight of LA or prospect some team that will overpay for Turner is still out there.
For the right player, you do a S&T with a protected pick when you know you are getting the player at the contract you like.
fishmike wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
lol not happening. No team in the Knicks position gives up a first round pick for a guy who is more injury prone than Mitch and will be an UFA.
At least set your trade expectations up to be more in line with what teams would give up in this situation.
Mitch is on a descending 4 year contract that starts at $17M and ends at $13M, that's an incredible value contract for his output and situation.
It would be a protected pick (not a Knicks pick) but Turner is really good. You underrate him. And he’s CAA now so the extension stuff would already be arranged.
dude he's a contract year player.
Right, plus he is due to get hurt and miss 20 games any time now
martin wrote:fishmike wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I still have nightmares over the 1996 draft where we had three first round picks and ended up with John Wallace, Walter McCarthy and Dontae Jones when maybe we could have traded all of those picks and moved up for Kobe (RIP), Steve Nash or Jermaine O'Neal.Don't get too attached to these picks in this upcoming draft. I think it's likely all will be traded at the deadline for an impact player.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. I’m still keeping my eye on Mitch and a pick going to Indiana for Turner.
lol not happening. No team in the Knicks position gives up a first round pick for a guy who is more injury prone than Mitch and will be an UFA.
At least set your trade expectations up to be more in line with what teams would give up in this situation.
Mitch is on a descending 4 year contract that starts at $17M and ends at $13M, that's an incredible value contract for his output and situation.
It would be a protected pick (not a Knicks pick) but Turner is really good. You underrate him. And he’s CAA now so the extension stuff would already be arranged.
dude he's a contract year player.
Right, plus he is due to get hurt and miss 20 games any time now
yeah, but he did say he was "CAA"! Its like prepay. Its all worked out!
LOL....
CAA has the biggest market share of any agency by far. How many times we gonna read "CAA" and what that do?
How did ths all get started? Dolan runs what kind of business? entertainment. What do you do when you own MSG, Radio city music hall, The beacon theatre, The chicago Theatre, Marquee day/nite club vegas, about 20 restuarants and night clubs, MSG Entertainment is building a new state-of-the-art venue in Las Vegas, MSG Sphere at The Venetian, and has also announced plans to build a second MSG Sphere in London, pending necessary approvals. MSG Entertainment’s other properties include Boston Calling Events, which produces New England’s premier Boston Calling Music Festival, and Tao Group Hospitality with popular dining and nightlife brands that include: Tao, Hakkasan, Omnia, Marquee, Lavo, Beauty & Essex and Cathédrale.
CAA clients play life concerts. You want to work with them. CAA represents Basketball players too. They all can't play for knicks.
