Knicks · Is Kyle Kuzma on the Knicks a game changer to win it all? (page 2)

Knixkik @ 1/14/2023 10:15 PM
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

Leon rose was his agent. I wouldn’t rule it out.

GustavBahler @ 1/14/2023 11:56 PM
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

Leon rose was his agent. I wouldn’t rule it out.

Speaking of former clients. I know its an old rumor but I get the feeling that Leon might make a run at Booker. We have a glut in the backcourt. IQ has designs on being a starting PG. Paul could mentor him. Throw in Rose, Obi, and some 1st rounders.

Im a big fan of IQ, but the situation with IQ and Grimes, kind of reminds me of Jackson/Strickland, Two very talented young players on the rise, who largely fill the same role. Except they're combo-guards.

Brunson
Booker
Barrett
Randle
Robinson

That looks like a contender. Havent tried a trade checker. Would probably need more players involved. Maybe a sign and trade with IQ.

Nalod @ 1/15/2023 9:46 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.

Alpha1971 @ 1/15/2023 11:35 AM
What about Saddiq ;
Bay ?
GustavBahler @ 1/15/2023 12:06 PM
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.


Cmon Nalod, how many clients did Leon have, three, four tops?

Seriously, I agree that Leon wont be calling about every CAA client, but that doesnt mean he wont target some of them for a possible trade.

The reason I believe the Suns might be interested is their ability to compete going forward, with CP3 as starting PG. Suns are also one of the oldest teams in the league.

If they trade Booker, they will get back some foundational players. They have all their picks, so any additional picks could be packaged in a trade for another star. It would give the new owner a foundation young players, picks. and cap room.

ramtour420 @ 1/15/2023 12:28 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
MS wrote:Kuz is averaging 21.7pts 7.4rbs 4.9ass on 47% and we want him here on a bench role?

He’s going to get $25MM+ a year and look for the Pistons to sign him.

He would be a game changer for sure here, grimes would have to move to the bench and RJ to the two. Fournier would need to be moved with a first rounder to clear space and you would need to move Isiah.

Would be interesting with a bench of IQ, Grimes, Obi, Simms.

I feel like we need 1 more player. Kuzma would be real good. I like that he’s 6-9. Matches up defensively w Jason Tatum

Kuz plays defense?


No, he doesn't. Pass
BigDaddyG @ 1/15/2023 12:42 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:What about Saddiq ;
Bay ?

I've seen that they're looking for an unprotected first rounder. Don't know how true that is, but that seems like too much given how much he's struggling.
BRIGGS @ 1/15/2023 3:29 PM
You can see we’re 1 good player short. We’re gonna play our guys into the ground by 82. Trading for another talented player w diversified skill and position sets is high priority
Panos @ 1/15/2023 7:54 PM
I think its generally playing with fire to try to trade for a starter and move him to the bench. Risky.
MS @ 1/15/2023 11:05 PM
Bay had great size. Get the Nova guys together.

Players mindset shift when they are in a good situation. I think when you can take someone from a losing environment there is a good chance to steal talent. Is the Dallas pick a lot to give up, I don’t think so.

joec32033 @ 1/15/2023 11:35 PM
Panos wrote:I think its generally playing with fire to try to trade for a starter and move him to the bench. Risky.

I agree but it also depends on the level of the starter. To use examples from this thread, I think trading for a guy like Kuzma or OG and moving to the bench would be an issue. but if you traded for a guy like Bey, Harrison Barnes, or Josh Hart-maybe even Tobias Harris (although he may be on that line) I think they should be ok.

Nalod @ 1/16/2023 4:09 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.


Cmon Nalod, how many clients did Leon have, three, four tops?

Seriously, I agree that Leon wont be calling about every CAA client, but that doesnt mean he wont target some of them for a possible trade.

The reason I believe the Suns might be interested is their ability to compete going forward, with CP3 as starting PG. Suns are also one of the oldest teams in the league.

If they trade Booker, they will get back some foundational players. They have all their picks, so any additional picks could be packaged in a trade for another star. It would give the new owner a foundation young players, picks. and cap room.

To my point, Team will trade for him. Booker can ask out, but his contract is with suns, not CAA.
Ayton, Bridges, and Booker are not old.
Booker is their star. Gate attraction matters. Does new ownership rebuild?

ramtour420 @ 1/16/2023 7:05 AM
Does Saddiq Bay play d? We are trying to assemble a contender after all
Alpha1971 @ 1/16/2023 8:00 AM
ramtour420 wrote:Does Saddiq Bay play d? We are trying to assemble a contender after all

He has played on terrible teams. Can Bet play D on a good team with Thibs as his coach ? Does he have a high motor and did he play D in College ?

Knixkik @ 1/16/2023 9:15 AM
ramtour420 wrote:Does Saddiq Bay play d? We are trying to assemble a contender after all

His physical attributes suggest he should be a solid defender, but in Detroit he hasn’t been.

GustavBahler @ 1/16/2023 11:09 AM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.


Cmon Nalod, how many clients did Leon have, three, four tops?

Seriously, I agree that Leon wont be calling about every CAA client, but that doesnt mean he wont target some of them for a possible trade.

The reason I believe the Suns might be interested is their ability to compete going forward, with CP3 as starting PG. Suns are also one of the oldest teams in the league.

If they trade Booker, they will get back some foundational players. They have all their picks, so any additional picks could be packaged in a trade for another star. It would give the new owner a foundation young players, picks. and cap room.

To my point, Team will trade for him. Booker can ask out, but his contract is with suns, not CAA.
Ayton, Bridges, and Booker are not old.
Booker is their star. Gate attraction matters. Does new ownership rebuild?

The big question the new owner should be asking is how far can the Suns go with CP3, if he runs out of gas by the playoffs? Paul isnt getting any younger. Can the rest of the team overcome their HOF PG looking ordinary in the postseason? I dont believe so.

Jersey sales might prove me wrong, but I thought it was CP3 who was the big box office draw. Will they still fill the seats when he's gone?

I see a Suns team with diminishing returns in the playoffs, a new owner who probably wants to put their own stamp on the franchise. I'd get what I can for Paul, while I can. Trade Booker. That would give a new owner the resources to build a contender from the ground up, instead of being around for maybe the last ride of this one.

I dont see the Suns doing anything until the offseason.

BigDaddyG @ 1/16/2023 11:12 AM
Knixkik wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Does Saddiq Bay play d? We are trying to assemble a contender after all

His physical attributes suggest he should be a solid defender, but in Detroit he hasn’t been.

Yeah, he's not the best athlete. Definitely matchup dependent, but the effort is there.

Nalod @ 1/16/2023 12:30 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.


Cmon Nalod, how many clients did Leon have, three, four tops?

Seriously, I agree that Leon wont be calling about every CAA client, but that doesnt mean he wont target some of them for a possible trade.

The reason I believe the Suns might be interested is their ability to compete going forward, with CP3 as starting PG. Suns are also one of the oldest teams in the league.

If they trade Booker, they will get back some foundational players. They have all their picks, so any additional picks could be packaged in a trade for another star. It would give the new owner a foundation young players, picks. and cap room.

To my point, Team will trade for him. Booker can ask out, but his contract is with suns, not CAA.
Ayton, Bridges, and Booker are not old.
Booker is their star. Gate attraction matters. Does new ownership rebuild?

The big question the new owner should be asking is how far can the Suns go with CP3, if he runs out of gas by the playoffs? Paul isnt getting any younger. Can the rest of the team overcome their HOF PG looking ordinary in the postseason? I dont believe so.

Jersey sales might prove me wrong, but I thought it was CP3 who was the big box office draw. Will they still fill the seats when he's gone?

I see a Suns team with diminishing returns in the playoffs, a new owner who probably wants to put their own stamp on the franchise. I'd get what I can for Paul, while I can. Trade Booker. That would give a new owner the resources to build a contender from the ground up, instead of being around for maybe the last ride of this one.

I dont see the Suns doing anything until the offseason.

Lets be real, CP3 is bonafide HOF and reputation is there but the real back bone FUTURE of the team is Booker, then Ayton and Bridges. That is not an old core but one hitting their prime.
One has to understand CP3 contract and how it was structured:

“ The Suns would only be on the hook for about half of Paul's $30.8 million hit should they cut him before the beginning of the 2023-24 season, as his deal would become fully guaranteed on 6/28/2023.

The last year of Paul's deal would see no guaranteed money attributed to Phoenix's cap if he's waived by 6/28/2024. After that date, the deal becomes fully guaranteed. ”

So after this season they essentially buy him out for 15mil and say buh bye. They could trade him before the deadline this year or just prior to the guarantee date. Perhaps they could mutually extend that date?

“Putting a stamp on the team, etc”, its reasonable conjecture but spending 4.5bil on a team then going into rebuild with a newly renovated building is not likely.
I’d think Ayton and Bridges (he is not a star) would be traded before Booker.

Just for discussion you think if PHX needs depth you do a Ayton for some combo of MRob trade with EF, Reddish, IQ, Toppin and perhaps Drose for a playoff run IF FO does not want to pay Ayton or believe in his upside from here. Knicks do it because they think he has another level to go. And pairing with our starters has an aggregate that is wonderful! Front line of RJ, Randle and Ayton is young and has room to grow. Add Brunson and Grimes and that MIGHT be compelling. I like MRob a lot, but his lack of offense is worrisome. If they want a kings ransom for Ayton im walking. If our FO does not have a strong conviction for him this is all moot.

Clearly im not suggesting all of those assets go out the door. Some combo and maybe a pick is in there EITHER WAY coming or going.

Im just spitballing here for discussion. I don’t know what PHX is thinking or what they plan on doing with CP3 after the season. I’d guess how far they go will color the decision. But I wanted to pass on that contract detail which clearly offers a way to PHX a path to clear themselves of him and not cripple the future.

franco12 @ 1/16/2023 7:40 PM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.


Cmon Nalod, how many clients did Leon have, three, four tops?

Seriously, I agree that Leon wont be calling about every CAA client, but that doesnt mean he wont target some of them for a possible trade.

The reason I believe the Suns might be interested is their ability to compete going forward, with CP3 as starting PG. Suns are also one of the oldest teams in the league.

If they trade Booker, they will get back some foundational players. They have all their picks, so any additional picks could be packaged in a trade for another star. It would give the new owner a foundation young players, picks. and cap room.

To my point, Team will trade for him. Booker can ask out, but his contract is with suns, not CAA.
Ayton, Bridges, and Booker are not old.
Booker is their star. Gate attraction matters. Does new ownership rebuild?

The big question the new owner should be asking is how far can the Suns go with CP3, if he runs out of gas by the playoffs? Paul isnt getting any younger. Can the rest of the team overcome their HOF PG looking ordinary in the postseason? I dont believe so.

Jersey sales might prove me wrong, but I thought it was CP3 who was the big box office draw. Will they still fill the seats when he's gone?

I see a Suns team with diminishing returns in the playoffs, a new owner who probably wants to put their own stamp on the franchise. I'd get what I can for Paul, while I can. Trade Booker. That would give a new owner the resources to build a contender from the ground up, instead of being around for maybe the last ride of this one.

I dont see the Suns doing anything until the offseason.

Lets be real, CP3 is bonafide HOF and reputation is there but the real back bone FUTURE of the team is Booker, then Ayton and Bridges. That is not an old core but one hitting their prime.
One has to understand CP3 contract and how it was structured:

“ The Suns would only be on the hook for about half of Paul's $30.8 million hit should they cut him before the beginning of the 2023-24 season, as his deal would become fully guaranteed on 6/28/2023.

The last year of Paul's deal would see no guaranteed money attributed to Phoenix's cap if he's waived by 6/28/2024. After that date, the deal becomes fully guaranteed. ”

So after this season they essentially buy him out for 15mil and say buh bye. They could trade him before the deadline this year or just prior to the guarantee date. Perhaps they could mutually extend that date?

“Putting a stamp on the team, etc”, its reasonable conjecture but spending 4.5bil on a team then going into rebuild with a newly renovated building is not likely.
I’d think Ayton and Bridges (he is not a star) would be traded before Booker.

Just for discussion you think if PHX needs depth you do a Ayton for some combo of MRob trade with EF, Reddish, IQ, Toppin and perhaps Drose for a playoff run IF FO does not want to pay Ayton or believe in his upside from here. Knicks do it because they think he has another level to go. And pairing with our starters has an aggregate that is wonderful! Front line of RJ, Randle and Ayton is young and has room to grow. Add Brunson and Grimes and that MIGHT be compelling. I like MRob a lot, but his lack of offense is worrisome. If they want a kings ransom for Ayton im walking. If our FO does not have a strong conviction for him this is all moot.

Clearly im not suggesting all of those assets go out the door. Some combo and maybe a pick is in there EITHER WAY coming or going.

Im just spitballing here for discussion. I don’t know what PHX is thinking or what they plan on doing with CP3 after the season. I’d guess how far they go will color the decision. But I wanted to pass on that contract detail which clearly offers a way to PHX a path to clear themselves of him and not cripple the future.

Sun’s fans want to be buyers at the deadline.

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2023/...

gradyandrew @ 1/17/2023 9:35 AM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.


Cmon Nalod, how many clients did Leon have, three, four tops?

Seriously, I agree that Leon wont be calling about every CAA client, but that doesnt mean he wont target some of them for a possible trade.

The reason I believe the Suns might be interested is their ability to compete going forward, with CP3 as starting PG. Suns are also one of the oldest teams in the league.

If they trade Booker, they will get back some foundational players. They have all their picks, so any additional picks could be packaged in a trade for another star. It would give the new owner a foundation young players, picks. and cap room.

To my point, Team will trade for him. Booker can ask out, but his contract is with suns, not CAA.
Ayton, Bridges, and Booker are not old.
Booker is their star. Gate attraction matters. Does new ownership rebuild?

The big question the new owner should be asking is how far can the Suns go with CP3, if he runs out of gas by the playoffs? Paul isnt getting any younger. Can the rest of the team overcome their HOF PG looking ordinary in the postseason? I dont believe so.

Jersey sales might prove me wrong, but I thought it was CP3 who was the big box office draw. Will they still fill the seats when he's gone?

I see a Suns team with diminishing returns in the playoffs, a new owner who probably wants to put their own stamp on the franchise. I'd get what I can for Paul, while I can. Trade Booker. That would give a new owner the resources to build a contender from the ground up, instead of being around for maybe the last ride of this one.

I dont see the Suns doing anything until the offseason.

Lets be real, CP3 is bonafide HOF and reputation is there but the real back bone FUTURE of the team is Booker, then Ayton and Bridges. That is not an old core but one hitting their prime.
One has to understand CP3 contract and how it was structured:

“ The Suns would only be on the hook for about half of Paul's $30.8 million hit should they cut him before the beginning of the 2023-24 season, as his deal would become fully guaranteed on 6/28/2023.

The last year of Paul's deal would see no guaranteed money attributed to Phoenix's cap if he's waived by 6/28/2024. After that date, the deal becomes fully guaranteed. ”

So after this season they essentially buy him out for 15mil and say buh bye. They could trade him before the deadline this year or just prior to the guarantee date. Perhaps they could mutually extend that date?

“Putting a stamp on the team, etc”, its reasonable conjecture but spending 4.5bil on a team then going into rebuild with a newly renovated building is not likely.
I’d think Ayton and Bridges (he is not a star) would be traded before Booker.

Just for discussion you think if PHX needs depth you do a Ayton for some combo of MRob trade with EF, Reddish, IQ, Toppin and perhaps Drose for a playoff run IF FO does not want to pay Ayton or believe in his upside from here. Knicks do it because they think he has another level to go. And pairing with our starters has an aggregate that is wonderful! Front line of RJ, Randle and Ayton is young and has room to grow. Add Brunson and Grimes and that MIGHT be compelling. I like MRob a lot, but his lack of offense is worrisome. If they want a kings ransom for Ayton im walking. If our FO does not have a strong conviction for him this is all moot.

Clearly im not suggesting all of those assets go out the door. Some combo and maybe a pick is in there EITHER WAY coming or going.

Im just spitballing here for discussion. I don’t know what PHX is thinking or what they plan on doing with CP3 after the season. I’d guess how far they go will color the decision. But I wanted to pass on that contract detail which clearly offers a way to PHX a path to clear themselves of him and not cripple the future.

It could just be a bad matchup for him but, I feel like every time Afton has gone head to hear with Mitchell, Robinson has dominated him.

Nalod @ 1/17/2023 11:24 AM
gradyandrew wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:Does anyone really see Kuzma as the type of player the Knicks FO would target? I don't

OMG- can you imagine the look on Thibs face the first time Kuz mentions fashion week?

Seems like decent teammate. I think Rodman was finishing piece on a few great teams

HOF and elected to top 75 list Dennis Rodman.
Then there is Kyle Kuzma. Are you for real?
Rodman skill set and contribution are even remotely similar to Kuzma.

For those looking at Ex Leon clients or CAA you’d be shocked to see how many players exist with that connection.
That does not mean they are Free agents, their team wants to trade them to us, or they fit. JB was a very specialized scenario.


Cmon Nalod, how many clients did Leon have, three, four tops?

Seriously, I agree that Leon wont be calling about every CAA client, but that doesnt mean he wont target some of them for a possible trade.

The reason I believe the Suns might be interested is their ability to compete going forward, with CP3 as starting PG. Suns are also one of the oldest teams in the league.

If they trade Booker, they will get back some foundational players. They have all their picks, so any additional picks could be packaged in a trade for another star. It would give the new owner a foundation young players, picks. and cap room.

To my point, Team will trade for him. Booker can ask out, but his contract is with suns, not CAA.
Ayton, Bridges, and Booker are not old.
Booker is their star. Gate attraction matters. Does new ownership rebuild?

The big question the new owner should be asking is how far can the Suns go with CP3, if he runs out of gas by the playoffs? Paul isnt getting any younger. Can the rest of the team overcome their HOF PG looking ordinary in the postseason? I dont believe so.

Jersey sales might prove me wrong, but I thought it was CP3 who was the big box office draw. Will they still fill the seats when he's gone?

I see a Suns team with diminishing returns in the playoffs, a new owner who probably wants to put their own stamp on the franchise. I'd get what I can for Paul, while I can. Trade Booker. That would give a new owner the resources to build a contender from the ground up, instead of being around for maybe the last ride of this one.

I dont see the Suns doing anything until the offseason.

Lets be real, CP3 is bonafide HOF and reputation is there but the real back bone FUTURE of the team is Booker, then Ayton and Bridges. That is not an old core but one hitting their prime.
One has to understand CP3 contract and how it was structured:

“ The Suns would only be on the hook for about half of Paul's $30.8 million hit should they cut him before the beginning of the 2023-24 season, as his deal would become fully guaranteed on 6/28/2023.

The last year of Paul's deal would see no guaranteed money attributed to Phoenix's cap if he's waived by 6/28/2024. After that date, the deal becomes fully guaranteed. ”

So after this season they essentially buy him out for 15mil and say buh bye. They could trade him before the deadline this year or just prior to the guarantee date. Perhaps they could mutually extend that date?

“Putting a stamp on the team, etc”, its reasonable conjecture but spending 4.5bil on a team then going into rebuild with a newly renovated building is not likely.
I’d think Ayton and Bridges (he is not a star) would be traded before Booker.

Just for discussion you think if PHX needs depth you do a Ayton for some combo of MRob trade with EF, Reddish, IQ, Toppin and perhaps Drose for a playoff run IF FO does not want to pay Ayton or believe in his upside from here. Knicks do it because they think he has another level to go. And pairing with our starters has an aggregate that is wonderful! Front line of RJ, Randle and Ayton is young and has room to grow. Add Brunson and Grimes and that MIGHT be compelling. I like MRob a lot, but his lack of offense is worrisome. If they want a kings ransom for Ayton im walking. If our FO does not have a strong conviction for him this is all moot.

Clearly im not suggesting all of those assets go out the door. Some combo and maybe a pick is in there EITHER WAY coming or going.

Im just spitballing here for discussion. I don’t know what PHX is thinking or what they plan on doing with CP3 after the season. I’d guess how far they go will color the decision. But I wanted to pass on that contract detail which clearly offers a way to PHX a path to clear themselves of him and not cripple the future.

It could just be a bad matchup for him but, I feel like every time Afton has gone head to hear with Mitchell, Robinson has dominated him.

We play PHX twice a year, and How many has MRob played in them?
Mrob defense and Rebounding is better than Ayton, but my opinion is we need an offensive upgrade full time at the C at some point to get to the next level. Either by draft or trade.
You saw what happended yesterday. Not blaming Mrob at all but he is what he is.
At this point on any given night JB, Barrett or Jules are dangerous. Mrob brings a lot to the defense and offensive rebounding. That our guys can go to the rim and he gets many offensive boards is huge.
I don't know what is ailing PHX or really care to lean in to that level of discussion on them. Not saying this is a trade we have to do now either. Mrob off the bench is a very expensive back up.
My hope is RJ continues to grow into a top 10 elite SF. Thats top 1/3rd of the league. OF 30 starters, be top 10 somewhere. That vague I admit. JUles is there at his position as is Brunson over the very recent run.
Knicks are playing good ball but im not ready to label them "a good team". Im having fun with this season!

We are far away from a Kyle Kuzma being the tipping player to push us to contention. If that was the case, and perhaps im not seeing it, then yes DO IT!!!

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