Btw this game shows how much we already miss mitch
Philc1 wrote:martin wrote:The ref that calls this foul is directly behind Hart's back, so his vision is impaired for body contact.And the fact that they review this play and still uphold is just ludicrous. Like what the fuck is going on?
You can't take games seriously when Trae gets to land wherever he wants and then also takes 4 steps on the possession flagrant foul.
And then this. It's awful, NBA wanted the Knicks to lose. No 2 ways around it. This is one of the dumber things I've seen recently.
Vegas Baby Vegas
I'm not usually with you but I'm in 100% agreement. There is literally no other reason that I can come up with.
Sims with a 12 pt 8 rebound game. Not too shabby.
Obi is awful IMHO
He tried to back down/post up Jalen Johnson early in the game and was shut down.
Doesn't know when to shoot the 3pt shot, when to fake and take it to basket.
Awful rebounder.
He is doing himself a disservice.
RJ made a bunch of shots tonight but continues to be one of the lowest offensive IQ players I've seen in a long while.
Anyone got lip reading skills? After the Hart ghost foul and review
martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:martin wrote:The ref that calls this foul is directly behind Hart's back, so his vision is impaired for body contact.And the fact that they review this play and still uphold is just ludicrous. Like what the fuck is going on?
You can't take games seriously when Trae gets to land wherever he wants and then also takes 4 steps on the possession flagrant foul.
And then this. It's awful, NBA wanted the Knicks to lose. No 2 ways around it. This is one of the dumber things I've seen recently.
Vegas Baby Vegas
I'm not usually with you but I'm in 100% agreement. There is literally no other reason that I can come up with.
Reffs or Vegas .....
At the end of the 3rd quarter the score was .. Knicks 101 - Hawks 102
Both teams had a hundred points at the end of 3 quarters equal 3 quarters without defense.
A 23-37 4th quarter equals one team played well on both ends of the court, and other team didn't.
Randle Randle Randle .. When the Knicks as a team were being built by D.Rose & Taj Gibson's veteran experience.
25-19 record team heading in the wrong direction .. 25-30
martin wrote:Obi is awful IMHO He tried to back down/post up Jalen Johnson early in the game and was shut down.
Doesn't know when to shoot the 3pt shot, when to fake and take it to basket.
Awful rebounder.
He is doing himself a disservice.
Yeah I agree I love the kid but he isn't that spark off the bench that we need
Knicks also shot 43% from 3pt land
blkexec wrote:Wait a minute. Did I hear them say the hawks went on a 16-1 run to start the 4th against our bench? Again I missed the game but if thats true, no wonder thibs only plays his starters. Rose, Cam, EF all sitting on the bench healthy? Mmmmm
No wonder our bench is weak. They all in THIBS DOG HOUSE. If Rose and Cam played, that;s a 9 man rotation
When the facts don't support your argument, make up your own.
Thibs DID play 9
martin wrote:The ref that calls this foul is directly behind Hart's back, so his vision is impaired for body contact.And the fact that they review this play and still uphold is just ludicrous. Like what the fuck is going on?
You can't take games seriously when Trae gets to land wherever he wants and then also takes 4 steps on the possession flagrant foul.
And then this. It's awful, NBA wanted the Knicks to lose. No 2 ways around it. This is one of the dumber things I've seen recently.
It’s a bad call but it’s legal. You supposed to jump straight up. Hart jumped and was moving with hunter and made body contact. So when the refs look at their rule book, technically it’s the right call.
But for the love of 90s basketball, it’s rules like that, that’s killing the game. No way in hell should that be a foul. It’s usually a no call. But once again, if the call was a foul in real time, it’s almost impossible to have it reversed because of the technicalities of the touch foul rules. And guess what you see in slow motion? Touch fouls. Killing the game!
Should go back to more no call and jump ball, with plays like that.
Panos wrote:blkexec wrote:Wait a minute. Did I hear them say the hawks went on a 16-1 run to start the 4th against our bench? Again I missed the game but if thats true, no wonder thibs only plays his starters. Rose, Cam, EF all sitting on the bench healthy? Mmmmm
No wonder our bench is weak. They all in THIBS DOG HOUSE. If Rose and Cam played, that;s a 9 man rotation
When the facts don't support your argument, make up your own.
Thibs DID play 9
Oh ok. I heard someone say he played 7. And I’m not talking garbage time, but ok he played 9. I also heard 4 of that 9 played during the start of the 4th quarter and atl went on a 16-1 run. Any comments about that?
blkexec wrote:Panos wrote:blkexec wrote:Wait a minute. Did I hear them say the hawks went on a 16-1 run to start the 4th against our bench? Again I missed the game but if thats true, no wonder thibs only plays his starters. Rose, Cam, EF all sitting on the bench healthy? Mmmmm
No wonder our bench is weak. They all in THIBS DOG HOUSE. If Rose and Cam played, that;s a 9 man rotation
When the facts don't support your argument, make up your own.
Thibs DID play 9
Oh ok. I heard someone say he played 7. And I’m not talking garbage time, but ok he played 9. I also heard 4 of that 9 played during the start of the 4th quarter and atl went on a 16-1 run. Any comments about that?
How hard is it to check a boxscore before you make a comment about a game you didn’t see and rely on someone making an obviously sarcastic statement about 7 players?
blkexec wrote:martin wrote:The ref that calls this foul is directly behind Hart's back, so his vision is impaired for body contact.And the fact that they review this play and still uphold is just ludicrous. Like what the fuck is going on?
You can't take games seriously when Trae gets to land wherever he wants and then also takes 4 steps on the possession flagrant foul.
And then this. It's awful, NBA wanted the Knicks to lose. No 2 ways around it. This is one of the dumber things I've seen recently.
It’s a bad call but it’s legal. You supposed to jump straight up. Hart jumped and was moving with hunter and made body contact. So when the refs look at their rule book, technically it’s the right call.
But for the love of 90s basketball, it’s rules like that, that’s killing the game. No way in hell should that be a foul. It’s usually a no call. But once again, if the call was a foul in real time, it’s almost impossible to have it reversed because of the technicalities of the touch foul rules. And guess what you see in slow motion? Touch fouls. Killing the game!
Should go back to more no call and jump ball, with plays like that.
You do understand that Hart wasn’t called for a body contract foul, right? And it had nothing to do with jumping straight up, something you can also tell by the video?
blkexec wrote:Panos wrote:blkexec wrote:Wait a minute. Did I hear them say the hawks went on a 16-1 run to start the 4th against our bench? Again I missed the game but if thats true, no wonder thibs only plays his starters. Rose, Cam, EF all sitting on the bench healthy? Mmmmm
No wonder our bench is weak. They all in THIBS DOG HOUSE. If Rose and Cam played, that;s a 9 man rotation
When the facts don't support your argument, make up your own.
Thibs DID play 9
Oh ok. I heard someone say he played 7. And I’m not talking garbage time, but ok he played 9. I also heard 4 of that 9 played during the start of the 4th quarter and atl went on a 16-1 run. Any comments about that?
Hey man didn't me to mislead you. Yes this played 9. What I ment was his rotation is short.
Rookie wrote:Sims with a 12 pt 8 rebound game. Not too shabby.
I think that only underscores how difficult it is to measure Mitchell's effect on the game. Hawks won because without Robinson the paint is open and not only can Capela get offensive rebounds but the Knicks are much less effective at closing out to shooters. This could be a long month.
martin wrote:blkexec wrote:martin wrote:The ref that calls this foul is directly behind Hart's back, so his vision is impaired for body contact.And the fact that they review this play and still uphold is just ludicrous. Like what the fuck is going on?
You can't take games seriously when Trae gets to land wherever he wants and then also takes 4 steps on the possession flagrant foul.
And then this. It's awful, NBA wanted the Knicks to lose. No 2 ways around it. This is one of the dumber things I've seen recently.
It’s a bad call but it’s legal. You supposed to jump straight up. Hart jumped and was moving with hunter and made body contact. So when the refs look at their rule book, technically it’s the right call.
But for the love of 90s basketball, it’s rules like that, that’s killing the game. No way in hell should that be a foul. It’s usually a no call. But once again, if the call was a foul in real time, it’s almost impossible to have it reversed because of the technicalities of the touch foul rules. And guess what you see in slow motion? Touch fouls. Killing the game!
Should go back to more no call and jump ball, with plays like that.
You do understand that Hart wasn’t called for a body contract foul, right? And it had nothing to do with jumping straight up, something you can also tell by the video?
Worst foul ever called. Or rather worst non foul ever called. Refs got caught blatantly and covered it up with a BS justification. Time for the Knicks to make a stink and pay a fine. Heartenstein sucks so much that if he is near anyone they assume a foul happened cause it usually does. I'd rather have Nerlens Noel back.
martin wrote:Obi is awful IMHO He tried to back down/post up Jalen Johnson early in the game and was shut down.
Doesn't know when to shoot the 3pt shot, when to fake and take it to basket.
Awful rebounder.
He is doing himself a disservice.
Randle Post Ups and ISOs are the very definition of inefficient and have been for years.
martin wrote:blkexec wrote:martin wrote:The ref that calls this foul is directly behind Hart's back, so his vision is impaired for body contact.And the fact that they review this play and still uphold is just ludicrous. Like what the fuck is going on?
You can't take games seriously when Trae gets to land wherever he wants and then also takes 4 steps on the possession flagrant foul.
And then this. It's awful, NBA wanted the Knicks to lose. No 2 ways around it. This is one of the dumber things I've seen recently.
It’s a bad call but it’s legal. You supposed to jump straight up. Hart jumped and was moving with hunter and made body contact. So when the refs look at their rule book, technically it’s the right call.
But for the love of 90s basketball, it’s rules like that, that’s killing the game. No way in hell should that be a foul. It’s usually a no call. But once again, if the call was a foul in real time, it’s almost impossible to have it reversed because of the technicalities of the touch foul rules. And guess what you see in slow motion? Touch fouls. Killing the game!
Should go back to more no call and jump ball, with plays like that.
You do understand that Hart wasn’t called for a body contract foul, right? And it had nothing to do with jumping straight up, something you can also tell by the video?
Ok well I guess the Knicks wasn’t the only one off yesterday. My bad. Well glad I didn’t see this game. Sounds like it was more of a heart break for those who watched it.
We’ll just checked the box score and that’s not a good indicator of how many players was on thibs rotation. It definitely says grimes was in foul trouble so that explains why more mins was open for deuce to consume who also had roughly 16 mins. Either way we have to find a way to win game if the plan is to make the playoffs. I hate that plan but what do I know. Right now if we don’t stop this skid, it’s going to snowball in the wrong direction.
