Knicks · [Game Thread 1/20/23] Knicks @ Hawks 7:30PM (page 8)

martin @ 1/22/2023 3:49 PM
blkexec wrote:Sorry but I lost all respect for you. You can’t talk crazy to me. You can disagree until u turn blue, I don’t mind that. And don’t mind the back and forth convo. I LOVE A GOOD DEBATE. But if you feel like you can talk to me in a down grating fashion, using curse words towards me and any else you talk about. Then dude STOP REPLYING. Is it a sickness you have? I don’t surround myself with people like that. So please go away.

Maybe your a better person IN PERSON, where you don’t have a key board to HIDE BEHIND. That’s called social media courage.

I don’t have time for your Verbal garbage. And I’m not going to sit back and allow it just because you run the site. I don’t care if your the president. I have more respect for myself. You can’t talk to me with that garbage or in that way. Period. Maybe the Knicks losing streak put you in a bad mood. That’s a YOU PROBLEM. Not me.

Again, I’m good…..not upset. I’m actually on a college tour with my son. But please go find some other clown to talk to and just don’t reply to my post. VERY SIMPLE. I haven’t cussed at you. I haven’t disrespected you. Showed you the upmost respect. And asking you as a man. Please leave me alone sir. There’s other people you can harass. If we ever meet in person, let’s continue your cussing discussion then. I rather have a cussing match in person. Online I like to be the opposite of a bully. Because it’s very easy to be an ass hole online. But that’s a weak move so I don’t stoop to your level.

With respect, please go away.

Have a nice day sir.

GO KNICKS

Then help me understand your response below. How are you adding to the conversation? Because I think you are diverting or not adding to a conversation or not even paying attention to what you are responding to or what is actually happening. I think it happens all the time.


blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:The ref that calls this foul is directly behind Hart's back, so his vision is impaired for body contact.

And the fact that they review this play and still uphold is just ludicrous. Like what the fuck is going on?

You can't take games seriously when Trae gets to land wherever he wants and then also takes 4 steps on the possession flagrant foul.

And then this. It's awful, NBA wanted the Knicks to lose. No 2 ways around it. This is one of the dumber things I've seen recently.

It’s a bad call but it’s legal. You supposed to jump straight up. Hart jumped and was moving with hunter and made body contact. So when the refs look at their rule book, technically it’s the right call.

But for the love of 90s basketball, it’s rules like that, that’s killing the game. No way in hell should that be a foul. It’s usually a no call. But once again, if the call was a foul in real time, it’s almost impossible to have it reversed because of the technicalities of the touch foul rules. And guess what you see in slow motion? Touch fouls. Killing the game!

Should go back to more no call and jump ball, with plays like that.

Rookie @ 1/22/2023 3:59 PM
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Is it the coach or is it the players? I’m just not seeing any kind of offensive philosophy or identity for the team to rely on. These kind of break downs are a real head scratcher. You would never see a Pop’s coached team fall apart like that but I don’t know if you can hang this on the coach either. We aren’t good at playing with pace and the speed of the game looked like it picked up in the 4th. Head scratcher. I don’t know what went wrong but this far into the season fingers need to be pointed, problems identified, changes made.

Man, if the Giants lose today I’m going to be real salty. Losing to the Hawks and the Eagles is going to really suck

I'm just curious. Is 124 points not a good offensive showing? On 59% shooting and 43% from 3? With double assists to turnovers?

Doesn't sound like the offense was a problem in this one.

And you need to be honest with what this team is. It's success rests with positive defensive trends.

Hawks played 0.0 defense first half and neither did we apparently for 4 quarters. No 124 points is not enough

Top offensive team averages 120 PPG. They scored 124.

Knicks average 114 pts per game. Hawks average 116. The Knicka let them score 23 points above their average. The Hawks let the Knicks score 10 points above their average (Key point:Knicks scored ABOVE their average). Both teams played shitty defense. Knicks played worse.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-tea...

Using some simple math - the Knicks average 28.5 points per Q (114/4=28.5). The Knicks scored 23 points in the 4th Q. Thus, they must have played below average offence in the 4th Q. See how that works? Letting the Hawks score 37 in the 4th Q would be below average defence. Thus I conclude the 4th Q overall is an issue

Actually the Knicks average 26 points per 4th quarter. Atlanta averages 27. They don't equally average the same points across all quarter. So I ask, Do YOU see how that works?
https://swishanalytics.com/nba/nba-point...

The Knicks scored 3 below their average. Atlanta scored 37, 10 above theirs. It is defense in this case. This season they are finding new ways to try and lose, offense and defense. I don't know what you are being snippy about.

t being snippy I’m just pointing out the inconsistency in your stats that you are referencing

I don’t get it. Above you state that the Knicks average 114 pts per game. Then you say they average 26 pts in the 4th Q and post a link to a stat that says the Knicks average 105 pts per game. No

joec32033 @ 1/22/2023 4:03 PM
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Is it the coach or is it the players? I’m just not seeing any kind of offensive philosophy or identity for the team to rely on. These kind of break downs are a real head scratcher. You would never see a Pop’s coached team fall apart like that but I don’t know if you can hang this on the coach either. We aren’t good at playing with pace and the speed of the game looked like it picked up in the 4th. Head scratcher. I don’t know what went wrong but this far into the season fingers need to be pointed, problems identified, changes made.

Man, if the Giants lose today I’m going to be real salty. Losing to the Hawks and the Eagles is going to really suck

I'm just curious. Is 124 points not a good offensive showing? On 59% shooting and 43% from 3? With double assists to turnovers?

Doesn't sound like the offense was a problem in this one.

And you need to be honest with what this team is. It's success rests with positive defensive trends.

Hawks played 0.0 defense first half and neither did we apparently for 4 quarters. No 124 points is not enough

Top offensive team averages 120 PPG. They scored 124.

Knicks average 114 pts per game. Hawks average 116. The Knicka let them score 23 points above their average. The Hawks let the Knicks score 10 points above their average (Key point:Knicks scored ABOVE their average). Both teams played shitty defense. Knicks played worse.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-tea...

Using some simple math - the Knicks average 28.5 points per Q (114/4=28.5). The Knicks scored 23 points in the 4th Q. Thus, they must have played below average offence in the 4th Q. See how that works? Letting the Hawks score 37 in the 4th Q would be below average defence. Thus I conclude the 4th Q overall is an issue

Actually the Knicks average 26 points per 4th quarter. Atlanta averages 27. They don't equally average the same points across all quarter. So I ask, Do YOU see how that works?
https://swishanalytics.com/nba/nba-point...

The Knicks scored 3 below their average. Atlanta scored 37, 10 above theirs. It is defense in this case. This season they are finding new ways to try and lose, offense and defense. I don't know what you are being snippy about.

t being snippy I’m just pointing out the inconsistency in your stats that you are referencing

I don’t get it. Above you state that the Knicks average 114 pts per game. Then you say they average 26 pts in the 4th Q and post a link to a stat that says the Knicks average 105 pts per game. No

I used 2 different sources. One of them must be wrong and that is my bad. 2 or 3 different websites have the Knicks averaging the same Points per game. Trying to find the points per quarter was more Nalytics type home made looking websites. I just trusted the sited to be accurate.

Rookie @ 1/22/2023 4:08 PM
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Is it the coach or is it the players? I’m just not seeing any kind of offensive philosophy or identity for the team to rely on. These kind of break downs are a real head scratcher. You would never see a Pop’s coached team fall apart like that but I don’t know if you can hang this on the coach either. We aren’t good at playing with pace and the speed of the game looked like it picked up in the 4th. Head scratcher. I don’t know what went wrong but this far into the season fingers need to be pointed, problems identified, changes made.

Man, if the Giants lose today I’m going to be real salty. Losing to the Hawks and the Eagles is going to really suck

I'm just curious. Is 124 points not a good offensive showing? On 59% shooting and 43% from 3? With double assists to turnovers?

Doesn't sound like the offense was a problem in this one.

And you need to be honest with what this team is. It's success rests with positive defensive trends.

Hawks played 0.0 defense first half and neither did we apparently for 4 quarters. No 124 points is not enough

Top offensive team averages 120 PPG. They scored 124.

Knicks average 114 pts per game. Hawks average 116. The Knicka let them score 23 points above their average. The Hawks let the Knicks score 10 points above their average (Key point:Knicks scored ABOVE their average). Both teams played shitty defense. Knicks played worse.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-tea...

Using some simple math - the Knicks average 28.5 points per Q (114/4=28.5). The Knicks scored 23 points in the 4th Q. Thus, they must have played below average offence in the 4th Q. See how that works? Letting the Hawks score 37 in the 4th Q would be below average defence. Thus I conclude the 4th Q overall is an issue

Actually the Knicks average 26 points per 4th quarter. Atlanta averages 27. They don't equally average the same points across all quarter. So I ask, Do YOU see how that works?
https://swishanalytics.com/nba/nba-point...

The Knicks scored 3 below their average. Atlanta scored 37, 10 above theirs. It is defense in this case. This season they are finding new ways to try and lose, offense and defense. I don't know what you are being snippy about.

t being snippy I’m just pointing out the inconsistency in your stats that you are referencing

I don’t get it. Above you state that the Knicks average 114 pts per game. Then you say they average 26 pts in the 4th Q and post a link to a stat that says the Knicks average 105 pts per game. No

I used 2 different sources. One of them must be wrong and that is my bad. 2 or 3 different websites have the Knicks averaging the same Points per game. Trying to find the points per quarter was more Nalytics type home made looking websites. I just trusted the sited to be accurate.

I think we can both agree that losing leads in the 4th Q is concerning.

joec32033 @ 1/22/2023 7:28 PM
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Is it the coach or is it the players? I’m just not seeing any kind of offensive philosophy or identity for the team to rely on. These kind of break downs are a real head scratcher. You would never see a Pop’s coached team fall apart like that but I don’t know if you can hang this on the coach either. We aren’t good at playing with pace and the speed of the game looked like it picked up in the 4th. Head scratcher. I don’t know what went wrong but this far into the season fingers need to be pointed, problems identified, changes made.

Man, if the Giants lose today I’m going to be real salty. Losing to the Hawks and the Eagles is going to really suck

I'm just curious. Is 124 points not a good offensive showing? On 59% shooting and 43% from 3? With double assists to turnovers?

Doesn't sound like the offense was a problem in this one.

And you need to be honest with what this team is. It's success rests with positive defensive trends.

Hawks played 0.0 defense first half and neither did we apparently for 4 quarters. No 124 points is not enough

Top offensive team averages 120 PPG. They scored 124.

Knicks average 114 pts per game. Hawks average 116. The Knicka let them score 23 points above their average. The Hawks let the Knicks score 10 points above their average (Key point:Knicks scored ABOVE their average). Both teams played shitty defense. Knicks played worse.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-tea...

Using some simple math - the Knicks average 28.5 points per Q (114/4=28.5). The Knicks scored 23 points in the 4th Q. Thus, they must have played below average offence in the 4th Q. See how that works? Letting the Hawks score 37 in the 4th Q would be below average defence. Thus I conclude the 4th Q overall is an issue

Actually the Knicks average 26 points per 4th quarter. Atlanta averages 27. They don't equally average the same points across all quarter. So I ask, Do YOU see how that works?
https://swishanalytics.com/nba/nba-point...

The Knicks scored 3 below their average. Atlanta scored 37, 10 above theirs. It is defense in this case. This season they are finding new ways to try and lose, offense and defense. I don't know what you are being snippy about.

t being snippy I’m just pointing out the inconsistency in your stats that you are referencing

I don’t get it. Above you state that the Knicks average 114 pts per game. Then you say they average 26 pts in the 4th Q and post a link to a stat that says the Knicks average 105 pts per game. No

I used 2 different sources. One of them must be wrong and that is my bad. 2 or 3 different websites have the Knicks averaging the same Points per game. Trying to find the points per quarter was more Nalytics type home made looking websites. I just trusted the sited to be accurate.

I think we can both agree that losing leads in the 4th Q is concerning.


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