Knicks · Official Eastern Conference {Standings/Schedule} Thread: (page 8)

2 game winning streak (without Jalen Brunson) and now 50+ wins has become a real opportunity.

Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets (46-23).
Vs. Timberwolves (35-34).
@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 50-19 (.725%).

2.) Boston = 47-22 (.681%). -3.0.
3.) Philadelphia = 45-22 (.672%). -4.0.

4.) Cleveland = 44-27 (.620%). -7.0
5.) New York = 41-30 (.577%). -10.0.

Knicks = 3 consecutive nights off:

• March 15th Games:
Celtics (2) @ Minnesota.
76ers (3) @ Cleveland (4).
Miami (7th) vs. Grizzlies.

• March 16th Games:
Milwaukee (1) vs. Pacers.
Brooklyn (6) vs. Kings.

• March 17th Games:
Celtics (2) @ Portland.
76ers (3) @ Charlotte.
Cleveland (4) vs. Wizards.

🔹March 18th Games:
Celtics (2) @ Utah.
76ers (3) @ Indiana.
New York (5) vs. Nuggets.
Heat (7th) @ Chicago.

I like the 3 nights off part. I hope that we break 50 wins

Hope Brunson rests a few more games, we will need him if we are going to make a run in the playoffs

Knickoftime wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:We'll see how it goes man.

Might not have enough time to catch Philadelphia due to -6.5 games back but with Cleveland?

We're only 4.5 back of Cleveland for the 4th seed.

We've got 1 game against them.

Hypothetically speaking we're -3.5 back of Cleveland (including the W over them).

From there on out?

Cleveland loses 2 in a row?
Knicks win 2 in a row?

And we're literally 1.0 back with potentially 10+ games remaining aka potential dog fight.

You're looking at it from a micro view, macro view is always better.

Like I say, Cleveland is a .628 team over 3/4's of a season. Even if they went 11-10, that means 17-5 for the Knicks, regardless of the common game. Give to the Knicks and we're still talking 11-9 and 16-5.

Those are looong odds. Verrrrrry long on the Knicks side and pretty long on the Cavs side.

I'm not telling anything other than the odds here.

Been exactly three weeks since this post.

Let's see how this is shaking out.

Then:

4.5 behind Cleveland

Now:

3 behind Cleveland

Knicks gain +1.5 games

Then:

6.5 games behind Philly

Now:

6 games behind Philly

Knicks gain +0.5 games

Games remaining:

Knicks: 11 (winners of 2 in a row, 7 of 10)
Cavs: 11 (winners of 2 in a row, 5 of their last 6, 6 of 10)
Philly: 15 (winners of 5 in a row, 6 of 7, 7 of 10)

So again, let's assume the Knicks win 50, and go 9-2 the rest of the way.

For the Knicks to finish 3rd, Cavs would need to go 5-6 (which also applies to the knicks finishing 4th) and the Sixers 4-10.

I think the strong suggestion here is the same was it was 3 weeks ago. The Cavs and Sixers have proven themselves to be solid, well-over-.500 team for multiple seasons and the probability over the remainder of the 2022-2023 season was that they'd continue to perform similarly, despite minor streaks here and there, which they have.

And in the Cavs case, with 2 games (back-to-back in Brooklyn) remaining with the Nets, Knicks fans need to choose their poison as to who they want to see win.

Some people don't understand probability. Obviously OP is one of them. I can't take op seriously after he has deleted posts in this thread when he has jumped the gun

Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets (46-23).
Vs. Timberwolves (35-34).
@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 50-19 (.725%).

2.) Boston = 48-22 (.686%). -2.5.
3.) Philadelphia = 46-22 (.676%). -3.5.

4.) Cleveland = 44-28 (.611%). -7.5.
5.) New York = 41-30 (.577%). -10.0.

(Knicks = 2 more off nights)

• Games Today:
Milwaukee (1) vs. Pacers.
Brooklyn (6) vs. Kings.

• Games Tomorrow:
Celtics (2) @ Portland.
76ers (3) @ Charlotte.
Cleveland (4) vs. Wizards.

🔹March 18th Games:
Celtics (2) @ Utah.
76ers (3) @ Indiana.
New York (5) vs. Nuggets.
Heat (7th) @ Chicago.

longtimeknicksfan wrote:Some people don't understand probability. Obviously OP is one of them. I can't take op seriously after he has deleted posts in this thread when he has jumped the gun

There's no shame in not understanding probability.

For decades the "standings" in all sports have conditioned sports fan to look at the remaining season poorly.

The shame is in ridiculing, rejecting and mischaracterizing (out of ignorance) things you don't understand. That's an awful (but common) human trait.

People are uncomfortable with things they don't know or understand.

This thread since the end of page 2 is Exhibit A.

I don't recall you being ridiculed. You are a very optimistic fan which is good, but sometimes people need a reality check. I believed we had a shot at reaching the 3rd seed, you got excited and went over the top with it imo. I thought it was a long shot but was hopeful. I have been lurking here for quite a while, i was on knicks twitter for awhile, but it got a bit toxic. Don't delete your posts and we can have respectful debates. I'm not a rookie just because these are my first posts. I've been a season ticket holder for 10 years so I've seen some pretty ugly runs. This team is different! We are a 2nd rd team!

longtimeknicksfan wrote:I don't recall you being ridiculed. You are a very optimistic fan which is good, but sometimes people need a reality check. I believed we had a shot at reaching the 3rd seed, you got excited and went over the top with it imo. I thought it was a long shot but was hopeful. I have been lurking here for quite a while, i was on knicks twitter for awhile, but it got a bit toxic. Don't delete your posts and we can have respectful debates. I'm not a rookie just because these are my first posts. I've been a season ticket holder for 10 years so I've seen some pretty ugly runs. This team is different! We are a 2nd rd team!

Hey man!

Good luck here ;-)

Yeah, Knicks twitter... yikes.

Wasn't talking about me, just to be clear. I wasn't adding anything original other than awareness of the probability models.

I mean the ridicule about the models being "AI" and assuming their creators don't watch basketball.

He wasn't ridiculing ME, he was ridiculing the IDEA that observing basketball, recording reliable long-term trends and indicators that have been tested ove time, and using that info to anticipate likelihood was NOT a good idea and that fan and recency bias was the better way to predict results.

OP was basically rejecting math and long-term observation and ridiculing IT.

Anyways, Knicks can still catch Cavs (HAVE to win the home game to get tie-breaker, and go on another streak). HOPE it happens.

3rd ain't...lol

longtimeknicksfan wrote:I don't recall you being ridiculed. You are a very optimistic fan which is good, but sometimes people need a reality check. I believed we had a shot at reaching the 3rd seed, you got excited and went over the top with it imo. I thought it was a long shot but was hopeful. I have been lurking here for quite a while, i was on knicks twitter for awhile, but it got a bit toxic. Don't delete your posts and we can have respectful debates. I'm not a rookie just because these are my first posts. I've been a season ticket holder for 10 years so I've seen some pretty ugly runs. This team is different! We are a 2nd rd team!

I was gonna give you a pass, but then you said you've been lurking here for quite a while. Here's some study material for you. Once done, post something for the board to review. Only then will you be considered a serious poster.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

Knickoftime wrote:

longtimeknicksfan wrote:I don't recall you being ridiculed. You are a very optimistic fan which is good, but sometimes people need a reality check. I believed we had a shot at reaching the 3rd seed, you got excited and went over the top with it imo. I thought it was a long shot but was hopeful. I have been lurking here for quite a while, i was on knicks twitter for awhile, but it got a bit toxic. Don't delete your posts and we can have respectful debates. I'm not a rookie just because these are my first posts. I've been a season ticket holder for 10 years so I've seen some pretty ugly runs. This team is different! We are a 2nd rd team!

Hey man!

Good luck here ;-)

Yeah, Knicks twitter... yikes.

Wasn't talking about me, just to be clear. I wasn't adding anything original other than awareness of the probability models.

I mean the ridicule about the models being "AI" and assuming their creators don't watch basketball.

He wasn't ridiculing ME, he was ridiculing the IDEA that observing basketball, recording reliable long-term trends and indicators that have been tested ove time, and using that info to anticipate likelihood was NOT a good idea and that fan and recency bias was the better way to predict results.

OP was basically rejecting math and long-term observation and ridiculing IT.

Anyways, Knicks can still catch Cavs (HAVE to win the home game to get tie-breaker, and go on another streak). HOPE it happens.

3rd ain't...lol

my dumb ass thought you were NYMentality posting to me

BigDaddyG wrote:

longtimeknicksfan wrote:I don't recall you being ridiculed. You are a very optimistic fan which is good, but sometimes people need a reality check. I believed we had a shot at reaching the 3rd seed, you got excited and went over the top with it imo. I thought it was a long shot but was hopeful. I have been lurking here for quite a while, i was on knicks twitter for awhile, but it got a bit toxic. Don't delete your posts and we can have respectful debates. I'm not a rookie just because these are my first posts. I've been a season ticket holder for 10 years so I've seen some pretty ugly runs. This team is different! We are a 2nd rd team!

I was gonna give you a pass, but then you said you've been lurking here for quite a while. Here's some study material for you. Once done, post something for the board to review. Only then will you be considered a serious poster.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i will get to the alba thread no worries brother

Losses are the only thing that matters at this juncture. Cavs have 28, Knicks and Nets have 30. Miami on the outside but not out at 33. As long as Knicks avoid the six seed it's all good.

NYKMentality wrote:Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets (46-23).
Vs. Timberwolves (35-34).
@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 50-19 (.725%).

2.) Boston = 48-22 (.686%). -2.5.
3.) Philadelphia = 46-22 (.676%). -3.5.

4.) Cleveland = 44-28 (.611%). -7.5.
5.) New York = 41-30 (.577%). -10.0.

(Knicks = 2 more off nights)

• Games Today:
Milwaukee (1) vs. Pacers.
Brooklyn (6) vs. Kings.

• Games Tomorrow:
Celtics (2) @ Portland.
76ers (3) @ Charlotte.
Cleveland (4) vs. Wizards.

🔹March 18th Games:
Celtics (2) @ Utah.
76ers (3) @ Indiana.
New York (5) vs. Nuggets.
Heat (7th) @ Chicago.

I like our schedule last 11 games

those last couple games might not have much meaning for us and I could hope that Thibs might rest guys the last couple games- I know he won't. But the last thing we need is a tire Randle and Brunson getting hurt and having that impact our play off success.

longtimeknicksfan wrote:I have been lurking here for quite a while, i was on knicks twitter for awhile, but it got a bit toxic.

Oh really?

What's your #KnicksTwitter username?

Nice to see Cleveland lose on the 15th before watching Brooklyn lose last night.

Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets (46-23).
Vs. Timberwolves (35-34).
@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 50-20 (.714%).

2.) Boston = 48-22 (.686%). -2.0.
3.) Philadelphia = 46-22 (.676%). -3.0.

4.) Cleveland = 44-28 (.611%). -7.0.
5.) New York = 41-30 (.577%). -9.5.

(Knicks = 1 more off night)

• Games Today:
Celtics (2) @ Portland.
76ers (3) @ Charlotte.
Cleveland (4) vs. Wizards.

Would be exciting if both Philadelphia and especially Cleveland lost tonight.

Cleveland losing (without Jarrett Allen) would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Cleveland loss tonight would = NY only 1 game behind Cleveland in the loss column (for the 4 seed) and Washington winning would also help NY's 1st round draft pick from the Wizards).

NYKMentality wrote:Nice to see Cleveland lose on the 15th before watching Brooklyn lose last night.

Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets (46-23).
Vs. Timberwolves (35-34).
@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 50-20 (.714%).

2.) Boston = 48-22 (.686%). -2.0.
3.) Philadelphia = 46-22 (.676%). -3.0.

4.) Cleveland = 44-28 (.611%). -7.0.
5.) New York = 41-30 (.577%). -9.5.

(Knicks = 1 more off night)

• Games Today:
Celtics (2) @ Portland.
76ers (3) @ Charlotte.
Cleveland (4) vs. Wizards.

Would be exciting if both Philadelphia and especially Cleveland lost tonight.

Cleveland losing (without Jarrett Allen) would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Cleveland loss tonight would = NY only 1 game behind Cleveland in the loss column (for the 4 seed) and Washington winning would also help NY's 1st round draft pick from the Wizards).

If we finish ahead of Cleveland I am gonna LOL

NYKMentality wrote:

longtimeknicksfan wrote:I have been lurking here for quite a while, i was on knicks twitter for awhile, but it got a bit toxic.

Oh really?

What's your #KnicksTwitter username?

@mikenieve

After New York just beat the #1 Seeded Western Conference Denver Nuggets squad?

New York is only 8 wins away from 50+ Wins for only the 14th time in Franchise History (77 YEARS) and on the verge of 50+ Wins for only the 2nd time throughout the previous 23 YEARS.

SAY WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT NYKMENTALITY (ME) BUT IF YOU'RE NOT OOZING EXCITEMENT WITH YOUR EACH AND EVERY 2023 POST?

Well then look in the mirror; because that's your own personal problem that you'll have to deal with (as a Sports fan) but I'm not listening 🤫

💙12-3 Previous 15 Games @ .800% ever since JOSH HART🧡

Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets = Win.

Vs. Timberwolves (35-34) on Monday.

@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 50-20 (.714%).

2.) Boston = 49-22 (.690%). -1.5.
3.) Philadelphia = 47-22 (.681%). -2.5.

4.) Cleveland = 45-28 (.616%). -6.5.
5.) New York = 42-30 (.583%). -9.0.

• Remaining Games Today:
Celtics (2) @ Utah.
76ers (3) @ Indiana.
Heat (7) @ Chicago.
Washington (draft pick)vs. Kings.

Important game coming up vs. Minnesota because beat the Timberwolves and NY's only 2.0 back of Cleveland for the 4th seed (+ H2H game against them too).

NYKMentality wrote:After New York just beat the #1 Seeded Western Conference Denver Nuggets squad?

New York is only 8 wins away from 50+ Wins for only the 14th time in Franchise History (77 YEARS) and on the verge of 50+ Wins for only the 2nd time throughout the previous 23 YEARS.

SAY WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT NYKMENTALITY (ME) BUT IF YOU'RE NOT OOZING EXCITEMENT WITH YOUR EACH AND EVERY 2023 POST?

Well then look in the mirror; because that's your own personal problem that you'll have to deal with (as a Sports fan) but I'm not listening 🤫

💙12-3 Previous 15 Games @ .800% ever since JOSH HART🧡

Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets = Win.

Vs. Timberwolves (35-34) on Monday.

@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 50-20 (.714%).

2.) Boston = 49-22 (.690%). -1.5.
3.) Philadelphia = 47-22 (.681%). -2.5.

4.) Cleveland = 45-28 (.616%). -6.5.
5.) New York = 42-30 (.583%). -9.0.

• Remaining Games Today:
Celtics (2) @ Utah.
76ers (3) @ Indiana.
Heat (7) @ Chicago.
Washington (draft pick)vs. Kings.

Important game coming up vs. Minnesota because beat the Timberwolves and NY's only 2.0 back of Cleveland for the 4th seed (+ H2H game against them too).

+1 man. ,+1 fking one

Knickoftime wrote:And in the Cavs case, with 2 games (back-to-back in Brooklyn) remaining with the Nets, Knicks fans need to choose their poison as to who they want to see win.

I wanted to ignore your posts within this thread but I'm sorry. I couldn't ignore that one.

It makes zero sense.

Why would any Knicks fan root for CLEVELAND over Brooklyn?!?

A.) Brooklyn is only 12-19 (after their soon to be Denver loss today) @ only .387% throughout their previous 31 games (they're mediocre to bad @ best).

B.) Knicks will become +2.5 games ahead of Brooklyn after the Nets up coming loss to Denver today.

C.) New York is only 2 games back in the loss column of Cleveland for that 4th seed (I've been preaching since creating this thread) with another H2H game against them too.

Seems like an easy "poison" to decide.

You root for Brooklyn wins over Cleveland and it's not even a question especially considering the fact NY's 12-3 previous 15 games @ .800% (since Josh Hart).

NY also owns the H2H Tiebreaker over Brooklyn too so we're actually +3.0 games ahead of them after today (not 2.5).

Rooting for Cleveland wins over BROOKLYN?!?!?

Are you kidding me?

Brooklyn has been sliding backwards for 31 games now but for some strange reason you're acting as if they're "moving up the Standings".

It probably won't happen but I'll laugh my ass off if Brooklyn sweeps Cleveland because you know what that'll mean? That'll = Knicks as 4th seed moving forward.