Knicks · Official Eastern Conference {Standings/Schedule} Thread: (page 9)

Knickoftime wrote:And in the Cavs case, with 2 games (back-to-back in Brooklyn) remaining with the Nets, Knicks fans need to choose their poison as to who they want to see win.

I wanted to ignore your posts within this thread but I'm sorry. I couldn't ignore that one.

It makes zero sense.

Why would any Knicks fan root for CLEVELAND over Brooklyn?!?

A.) Brooklyn is only 12-19 (after their soon to be Denver loss today) @ only .387% throughout their previous 31 games (they're mediocre to bad @ best).

B.) Knicks will become +2.5 games ahead of Brooklyn after the Nets up coming loss to Denver today.

C.) New York is only 2 games back in the loss column of Cleveland for that 4th seed (I've been preaching since creating this thread) with another H2H game against them too.

Seems like an easy "poison" to decide.

You root for Brooklyn wins over Cleveland and it's not even a question especially considering the fact NY's 12-3 previous 15 games @ .800% (since Josh Hart).

NY also owns the H2H Tiebreaker over Brooklyn too so we're actually +3.0 games ahead of them after today (not 2.5).

Rooting for Cleveland wins over BROOKLYN?!?!?

Are you kidding me?

Brooklyn has been sliding backwards for 31 games now but for some strange reason you're acting as if they're "moving up the Standings".

It probably won't happen but I'll laugh my ass off if Brooklyn sweeps Cleveland because you know what that'll mean? That'll = Knicks as 4th seed moving forward.

Knickoftime wrote:And in the Cavs case, with 2 games (back-to-back in Brooklyn) remaining with the Nets, Knicks fans need to choose their poison as to who they want to see win.

Wait 1 second.

Why on earth would you be preaching "Knicks fans need to choose their position" between Cleveland vs. Brooklyn?

Because according to your "simulators" the Brooklyn Nets have a...

🔹0.6% chance @ 4th seed.
🔹Only 11.2% chance @ 5th seed.
🔹And a whooping 70.1% chance to remain @ their 6th seed.

But yet you're now questioning if Knicks fans should root for Cleveland (vs. Brooklyn) despite only 2.0 games back of Cleveland for the 4th seed with still 1 more H2H game against them?

Seems pretty, hypocritical (to me).

Just weird how you forgot all about your simulators when preaching "pick your Knicks position between Cleveland/Brooklyn".

Very odd and very, strange.

I just watched an 18-52 San Antonio Spurs TANK TEAM lose to an Atlanta Hawks team (fighting their hearts out to make the Playoffs) and witnessed Atlanta not only lose the game but also blow a 24 Point lead while losing the game.

You see.

This is why NBA teams actually play the games because final results aren't based off Adam Silver "simulating the games".

They play the games on the basketball court (not through simulators) for a reason.

Would be pretty funny if Miami loses to another tank team (Detroit Pistons) still early but Detroit's @ home and up on the Heat by 2 points (31-29) in the 2nd Q.

NYKMentality wrote:And this is another example why I'll never take these computerized simulators and percentages, serious.

I just watched an 18-52 San Antonio Spurs TANK TEAM lose to an Atlanta Hawks team (fighting their hearts out to make the Playoffs) and witnessed Atlanta not only lose the game but also blow a 24 Point lead while losing the game.

You see.

This is why NBA teams actually play the games because final results aren't based off Adam Silver "simulating the games".

They play the games on the basketball court (not through simulators) for a reason.

Would be pretty funny if Miami loses to another tank team (Detroit Pistons) still early but Detroit's @ home and up on the Heat by 2 points (31-29) in the 2nd Q.

As was the case when the Spurs beat the Nuggets.

🔹New York = 15-6 (since this Thread was created) @ .714% (2nd best Record within the entire NBA).

🔸Knicks = 12-3 (since the Josh Hart addition) @ .800% (#1 Record within the entire league).

🔷 New York Knicks (now) looking for 4 Consecutive Wins in a Row. 🔶

🔶 Only 8 Wins away from 50+ Wins (for only the 2nd time throughout the previous 23 Years.)🔷

Final 11 Games:
Vs. Nuggets = Win.

Vs. Timberwolves (35-37 overall + 3 loses in a row) @ 7:30 (Tonight).

@ Miami (37-33).
@ Orlando (28-41).
Vs. Rockets (16-52).
Vs. Heat (37-33).
@ Cleveland (44-27).
Vs. Wizards (32-37).
@ Indiana (31-38).
@ New Orleans (33-36).
Vs. Pacers (31-38).

Eastern Conference:
1.) Milwaukee = 51-20 (.718%).

2.) Philadelphia = 48-22 (.686%). -2.5.
3.) Boston = 49-23 (.681%). -2.5.

4.) Cleveland = 45-28 (.616%). -7.0.
5.) NEW YORK KNICKS = 42-30 (.583%). -9.5.
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6.) Brooklyn = 39-32 (.549%). -12.0.
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7.) Miami = 39-34 (.534%). -13.0
8.) Atlanta = 35-36 (.493%). -16.0.
9.) Toronto = 35-37 (.486%). -16.5.
10.) Chicago = 33-37 (.471%). -17.5.
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11.) Indiana = 32-39 (.451%). -19.0.
12.) Washington = 32-39 (.451%). -19.0.
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• Games Tonight:
Philadelphia (2) vs. Bulls (10).
New York (5) vs. Timberwolves.
Mavericks (Draft Pick) @ Memphis.

🖊️2022-2023 Knicks just became the 1st New York team within Franchise History to (ever) have two (2) separate 8+ game winning streaks (during the same season) since dating back to 1972-1973's (Championship Winning) Knicks team.

🖊️Currently @ 3 Wins in a row (x3) this Knicks team of 2022-2023 are literally 5 Consecutive Wins in a row (8) to become the 1st (and only) Knicks team (within Franchise History) to have (ever) Recorded Three (3) separate 8+ game winning streaks (during the same season).

🏀Beat the Timberwolves (destroyed them already @ Minnesota) and our New York Knicks are only 2.0 games back of Cleveland for that 4th seed (+ 1 more H-2-H game remaining @ Cleveland too).🏀

NYKMentality wrote:And this is another example why I'll never take these computerized simulators and percentages, serious.

I just watched an 18-52 San Antonio Spurs TANK TEAM lose to an Atlanta Hawks team (fighting their hearts out to make the Playoffs) and witnessed Atlanta not only lose the game but also blow a 24 Point lead while losing the game.

You see.

This is why NBA teams actually play the games because final results aren't based off Adam Silver "simulating the games".

They play the games on the basketball court (not through simulators) for a reason.

Would be pretty funny if Miami loses to another tank team (Detroit Pistons) still early but Detroit's @ home and up on the Heat by 2 points (31-29) in the 2nd Q.

Oh my...

Again, your lack of understanding what you're talking about is holding you back and resulting in errors.

Pro tip: if you're going to call something out, understand it first.

I've never advocated for relying on any simulated model to predict a GAME result. I've never predicated a game result at all. For THAT reason.

YOU have.

In my experience, often incorrectly.

In my experience, sometimes incorrectly even DURING games themelves.

Go ahead... tell me I'm wrong.

But to help you grasp this concept: A guy who shoots .400 from three over a career or over a season can shoot 1-10 during a game easy. Nobody would blink an eye. But if you want to predict how he's going to shoot over the next 25 games, the best tool is to look at what's he's shot over the previous 25, 75, 164, 300 games.

Won't be perfect. Doesn't mean the guy can't go into an extended slump, get hot, or improve over a long haul either. It's sports. Can happen. That's the fun of sports (to me anyway). But at any given moment, the best indicator of what will happen over a large sample size, is what HAS happened over a larger sample size.

That's IT.

On February 23, 2023, I merely pointed out that even IF the Knicks pulled off an extraordinary run to 50 wins, you were still asking the Cavs and Sixers to play well under their established level for an extended period, despite both being good teams for a while.

You cited the Sixers league-leading most difficult .SOS the rest of the way and the fact they Cavs had lost a couple of recent games on that date, despite their very easy schedule for the same measure.

Since:

Sixers: 10-3 (.769)
Cavs: 7-5 (.583), with the little blip you crowed about for a week in their rear view mirror.

So AGAIN even if the Knicks go 8-2 (which is still very, very good) to get to 50, Cavs only need to go 5-4 to get to 50. Sixers 2-10.

3rd ain't happening. Never was.

With just 9 games left, the Knicks CAN pass Cleveland. I hope they do. 10-0 (given one of them is a tie-breaking securing win over Cavs) almost certainly will get it done.

Other than that, the odds on 2/23 look about the same as they do now. For the same reason. The Cavs are a relatively healthy, good team, who like on 2/23 happen to a very soft schedule the last 9 games.

Your problem is the same problem other forums and the moderator of this forum have identified for you. There is a social connection you're unable to make.

You don't understand that I'm a Knicks fan that approaches watching the Knicks and NBA pragmatically, and that's how I enjoy that game. That just doesn't compute with you. You literally don't comprehend not being the exact kind of fan you like being.

But we'll get to that more in due time...

longtimeknicksfan wrote:4th seed has always been reachable. It was the 3rd seed where the small probability was coming into play.

🚨You have given up on that dream also🚨

You can't tell another man in life about his own dream and/or what he's given up on and/or how it's"over with" when you've never even known his dream to begin with, now, can you?

But hey.

Advice moving forward.

You can always go to and check out page 1.

There's lots of pictures like two or three Knicks photos + an NYK Mentality type of Knicks YouTube Hype video too.

Very 1st post post of this thread created.

You can't miss it.

It's just me having a fun times.

Me talking up either one of the 3rd or 4th seeds and since day 1 too.

Because 3rd or 4th Seed = Eastern Conference Home Court Advantage (Round 1).

That's actually been my goal (as a fan) since, the very moment I hit the submit button (after talking up both the 3rd and 4th seeds).

Written in stone.

My dream you're referring to as being "given up on"?

Hope you go back and, check it out 😎.

Still haven't given up on the 3 seed just yet. I've got 2 teams to root against. Every night. And hope for an end of the season slump from either one. Both Philadelphia and now Boston.

And still looking forward to watching Philadelphia during nights NY doesn't play same goes for a slumping Boston team and still. To this day. Still anxious to see how Philadelphia does against...

@ Golden State.
@ Phoenix
@ Denver.
Vs. Mavericks.
@ Milwaukee.
Vs. Celtics.
Vs. Heat.
@ Brooklyn.

Philadelphia might just have to work like dogs right before heading into the Playoffs.

Because all of those teams each and every 1vof them are fighting for Playoff Position so what if NY stays 100% red hot and on🔥and Philadelphia loses 5 of those games, above?

And also has a slipup or two against teams they should beat ala...

Vs. Chicago.
@ Chicago.
Vs. Toronto.
@ Atlanta.

Those are games against teams all fighting for the Play-In will Philadelphia overlook them? Can they get upset?

Or is it only the Knicks have "trap games" around here?

TLDR; My "dream" has always been Eastern Conference 1st Round Home Court Advantage. 3 Seed was just my Offseason Prediction.

Because once you advance past the 1st round?

You're only 1 Round away from the Eastern Conference Finals.

You know how it goes.

We've been here before.

Used to be like this every single year throughout the 1990's.

I loved following the schedule and ESPN score alerts in the 90's with Chicago always #1 with Knicks/Pacers/Miami always fighting for Postseason Positioning/Seedings. Fun stuff.

The difference today?

Ain't no Michael Jordan #23 Superhero led Chicago Bulls team in this Conference anymore + this 2023 NY team could might just be one of the top 3-5 most TALENTED Knicks teams we've featured in over 30+ years. From 1-9 top to bottom too.

Feels like it to me.

NYKMentality wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:And in the Cavs case, with 2 games (back-to-back in Brooklyn) remaining with the Nets, Knicks fans need to choose their poison as to who they want to see win.

I wanted to ignore your posts within this thread but I'm sorry. I couldn't ignore that one.

No, you didn't.

Nobody on social media who announces they're no longer going to respond to someone EVER has the self respect to actually follow through, and I said as much the second you announced it.

But let's get to the substance of your latest attempt....

It makes zero sense.

Why would any Knicks fan root for CLEVELAND over Brooklyn?!?

A.) Brooklyn is only 12-19 (after their soon to be Denver loss today) @ only .387% throughout their previous 31 games (they're mediocre to bad @ best).

B.) Knicks will become +2.5 games ahead of Brooklyn after the Nets up coming loss to Denver today.

C.) New York is only 2 games back in the loss column of Cleveland for that 4th seed (I've been preaching since creating this thread) with another H2H game against them too.

Seems like an easy "poison" to decide.

You root for Brooklyn wins over Cleveland and it's not even a question especially considering the fact NY's 12-3 previous 15 games @ .800% (since Josh Hart).

NY also owns the H2H Tiebreaker over Brooklyn too so we're actually +3.0 games ahead of them after today (not 2.5).

Rooting for Cleveland wins over BROOKLYN?!?!?

Are you kidding me?

Brooklyn has been sliding backwards for 31 games now but for some strange reason you're acting as if they're "moving up the Standings".

You, again, put on display your lack of comprehension.

The comment was made on 3/15, when the Knicks were tied with Brooklyn in the loss column.

On that date, the Knicks were still favored to win the 5th seed, but baked into that equation was an anticipated 2 Brooklyn losses (at home) to the better team, Cleveland.

Give BOTH those games to Brooklyn, and the 5th seed math changes.

Because math.

Cleveland has a VERY favorable schedule - after those two games and the home game vs the Knicks, they have Houston, Charlotte, Orlando (x2), Indiana, Atlanta and had Washington.

That's 7 winnable games not even counting the Knicks and Nets games, which is a potential 52 wins, even with Knicks and Nets (x2) loses.

On March 15, Knicks would have had to go 11-2 to get 52 wins.

Its just math

But...

It probably won't happen but I'll laugh my ass off if Brooklyn sweeps Cleveland because you know what that'll mean? That'll = Knicks as 4th seed moving forward.

See, this is what I don't get. You have a public track record.

You predicated 60 wins a year ago. You've predicted wins and losses before and during games IN this thread you've been wrong about.

You've picked a personal fight with someone who has done nothing in relation to you other than tell you 60 wins was crazy town (it was and still is) and to tell you that the Knicks were highly unlikely to catch BOTH Philly AND Cleveland this season, and not for nothing, because the Knicks would be a farther behind th Cavs IF Cleveland had beaten Philly, but still wouldn't have be close to Philly...

Because math.

Yet, somehow, IF something in improbable happens, the guy who predicted 60 wins ... the guy who calls games wrong during the game and deletes the evidence ... the guy who thought the 3rd seed was in sight ... is going to laugh at someone else?

How does that work exactly? How does someone so historically and recently awful at this laugh at ANYONE else, ever?

I'm really asking...

longtimeknicksfan wrote:4th seed has always been reachable. It was the 3rd seed where the small probability was coming into play. You have given up on that dream also

I want the 5th seed. We got a shot against Celtics but I like our chances facing the Cavs better plus all the pressure will be on them because of the Spidah trade

NYKMentality wrote:

longtimeknicksfan wrote:4th seed has always been reachable. It was the 3rd seed where the small probability was coming into play.

🚨You have given up on that dream also🚨

You can't tell another man in life about his own dream and/or what he's given up on and/or how it's"over with" when you've never even known his dream to begin with, now, can you?

But hey.

Advice moving forward.

You can always go to and check out page 1.

There's lots of pictures like two or three Knicks photos + an NYK Mentality type of Knicks YouTube Hype video too.

Very 1st post post of this thread created.

You can't miss it.

It's just me having a fun times.

Me talking up either one of the 3rd or 4th seeds and since day 1 too.

Because 3rd or 4th Seed = Eastern Conference Home Court Advantage (Round 1).

That's actually been my goal (as a fan) since, the very moment I hit the submit button (after talking up both the 3rd and 4th seeds).

Written in stone.

My dream you're referring to as being "given up on"?

Hope you go back and, check it out 😎.

Still haven't given up on the 3 seed just yet. I've got 2 teams to root against. Every night. And hope for an end of the season slump from either one. Both Philadelphia and now Boston.

And still looking forward to watching Philadelphia during nights NY doesn't play same goes for a slumping Boston team and still. To this day. Still anxious to see how Philadelphia does against...

@ Golden State.
@ Phoenix
@ Denver.
Vs. Mavericks.
@ Milwaukee.
Vs. Celtics.
Vs. Heat.
@ Brooklyn.

Philadelphia might just have to work like dogs right before heading into the Playoffs.

Because all of those teams each and every 1vof them are fighting for Playoff Position so what if NY stays 100% red hot and on🔥and Philadelphia loses 5 of those games, above?

And also has a slipup or two against teams they should beat ala...

Vs. Chicago.
@ Chicago.
Vs. Toronto.
@ Atlanta.

Those are games against teams all fighting for the Play-In will Philadelphia overlook them? Can they get upset?

Or is it only the Knicks have "trap games" around here?

TLDR; My "dream" has always been Eastern Conference 1st Round Home Court Advantage. 3 Seed was just my Offseason Prediction.

Because once you advance past the 1st round?

You're only 1 Round away from the Eastern Conference Finals.

You know how it goes.

We've been here before.

Used to be like this every single year throughout the 1990's.

I loved following the schedule and ESPN score alerts in the 90's with Chicago always #1 with Knicks/Pacers/Miami always fighting for Postseason Positioning/Seedings. Fun stuff.

The difference today?

Ain't no Michael Jordan #23 Superhero led Chicago Bulls team in this Conference anymore + this 2023 NY team could might just be one of the top 3-5 most TALENTED Knicks teams we've featured in over 30+ years. From 1-9 top to bottom too.

Feels like it to me.

Your posts say you have given up. The post right above mine you talk about Cleveland and the 4th seed no mention of Philly/Boston 3rd seed. Tonight ended the 3rd seed and probably ended the 4th seed..

Knickoftime wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:And in the Cavs case, with 2 games (back-to-back in Brooklyn) remaining with the Nets, Knicks fans need to choose their poison as to who they want to see win.

I wanted to ignore your posts within this thread but I'm sorry. I couldn't ignore that one.

No, you didn't.

Nobody on social media who announces they're no longer going to respond to someone EVER has the self respect to actually follow through, and I said as much the second you announced it.

But let's get to the substance of your latest attempt....

It makes zero sense.

Why would any Knicks fan root for CLEVELAND over Brooklyn?!?

A.) Brooklyn is only 12-19 (after their soon to be Denver loss today) @ only .387% throughout their previous 31 games (they're mediocre to bad @ best).

B.) Knicks will become +2.5 games ahead of Brooklyn after the Nets up coming loss to Denver today.

C.) New York is only 2 games back in the loss column of Cleveland for that 4th seed (I've been preaching since creating this thread) with another H2H game against them too.

Seems like an easy "poison" to decide.

You root for Brooklyn wins over Cleveland and it's not even a question especially considering the fact NY's 12-3 previous 15 games @ .800% (since Josh Hart).

NY also owns the H2H Tiebreaker over Brooklyn too so we're actually +3.0 games ahead of them after today (not 2.5).

Rooting for Cleveland wins over BROOKLYN?!?!?

Are you kidding me?

Brooklyn has been sliding backwards for 31 games now but for some strange reason you're acting as if they're "moving up the Standings".

You, again, put on display your lack of comprehension.

The comment was made on 3/15, when the Knicks were tied with Brooklyn in the loss column.

On that date, the Knicks were still favored to win the 5th seed, but baked into that equation was an anticipated 2 Brooklyn losses (at home) to the better team, Cleveland.

Give BOTH those games to Brooklyn, and the 5th seed math changes.

Because math.

Cleveland has a VERY favorable schedule - after those two games and the home game vs the Knicks, they have Houston, Charlotte, Orlando (x2), Indiana, Atlanta and had Washington.

That's 7 winnable games not even counting the Knicks and Nets games, which is a potential 52 wins, even with Knicks and Nets (x2) loses.

On March 15, Knicks would have had to go 11-2 to get 52 wins.

Its just math

But...

It probably won't happen but I'll laugh my ass off if Brooklyn sweeps Cleveland because you know what that'll mean? That'll = Knicks as 4th seed moving forward.

See, this is what I don't get. You have a public track record.

You predicated 60 wins a year ago. You've predicted wins and losses before and during games IN this thread you've been wrong about.

You've picked a personal fight with someone who has done nothing in relation to you other than tell you 60 wins was crazy town (it was and still is) and to tell you that the Knicks were highly unlikely to catch BOTH Philly AND Cleveland this season, and not for nothing, because the Knicks would be a farther behind th Cavs IF Cleveland had beaten Philly, but still wouldn't have be close to Philly...

Because math.

Yet, somehow, IF something in improbable happens, the guy who predicted 60 wins ... the guy who calls games wrong during the game and deletes the evidence ... the guy who thought the 3rd seed was in sight ... is going to laugh at someone else?

How does that work exactly? How does someone so historically and recently awful at this laugh at ANYONE else, ever?

I'm really asking...

So I'm not the only guy who saw the deleted posts from the Boston/Cleveland game. I have been waiting for him to say he didn't delete the posts

longtimeknicksfan wrote:

So I'm not the only guy who saw the deleted posts from the Boston/Cleveland game. I have been waiting for him to say he didn't delete the posts

I just went through the whole thread and didn't find any edits outside of 20 minutes. So unless you have some evidence, I think you got it wrong.

gradyandrew wrote:

longtimeknicksfan wrote:

So I'm not the only guy who saw the deleted posts from the Boston/Cleveland game. I have been waiting for him to say he didn't delete the posts

I just went through the whole thread and didn't find any edits outside of 20 minutes. So unless you have some evidence, I think you got it wrong.

Definitely domt have it wrong.

gradyandrew wrote:

longtimeknicksfan wrote:

So I'm not the only guy who saw the deleted posts from the Boston/Cleveland game. I have been waiting for him to say he didn't delete the posts

I just went through the whole thread and didn't find any edits outside of 20 minutes. So unless you have some evidence, I think you got it wrong.

You can delete your own posts.

ramtour420 wrote:What do I get from this thread? Some people point out mistakes that others make. That's their contribution. Yay. Also NYKM is an optimistic Knicks fan

I have to assume you're skimming.

Look for the "fan" who says if you're not a fan exactly like him, then you've got personal problems.

You might be surprised who that is...

50-32. Knicks own tie-breaker over Cavs.

Awesome!

Cleveland would need to get to 51 wins including the Knicks loss to stay in 4th, meaning 6 of 8, those eight being 2 with Brooklyn, 2 with Orlando, Houston, Charlotte, Indiana and Atlanta.

Hope the Knick finish ahead.

It's possible it could happen.

If there's any argument as to why its likely to happen, I'd like to hear it.

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

longtimeknicksfan wrote:

So I'm not the only guy who saw the deleted posts from the Boston/Cleveland game. I have been waiting for him to say he didn't delete the posts

I just went through the whole thread and didn't find any edits outside of 20 minutes. So unless you have some evidence, I think you got it wrong.

You can delete your own posts.

Sounds like something my ex would do.

Knickoftime wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:What do I get from this thread? Some people point out mistakes that others make. That's their contribution. Yay. Also NYKM is an optimistic Knicks fan

I have to assume you're skimming.

Look for the "fan" who says if you're not a fan exactly like him, then you've got personal problems.

You might be surprised who that is...