Knicks · oh boy... Zach rumors heating up (page 2)

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martin wrote:

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Bojan or bust?

MaTT4281 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:59 minutes.

yeah man... I am pretty sure we are moving on from RJ at some point but this NOT the big fish I'm hot to get.

Coming off the 20-21 season, pairing Randle with Lavine was my dream scenario!

Now you got that albatross contract, disappointing play, and an inflated market where you're not even able to benefit from buying low.

LOL if Thibs been pissed at RJ's defense and we give him Lavine instead...

50 minutes.

well what if it was like RJ/Rose/Obi and the Bucks/Wiz (heavily protected) picks? That is pretty low cost no? You keep all your future FRPs and trade out some spare parts for a bigger fish

That awkward mix of buying low and selling low at the same time. Who's more likely fix their issues and trend upward, RJ or Zach? I don't have an answer. I still prefer to keep RJ, but if you've given up on him (and maybe the FO has), then it makes sense.

RJ + Obi (who evidently is carrying more value around the league than I thought), plus 2 protected firsts for Lavine in year 1 of his 5 year $215M contract.

32 minutes.

We do that the glut of guards is high. Nobody wants to trade IQ or grimes but one would likely be going.

MaTT4281 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:59 minutes.

yeah man... I am pretty sure we are moving on from RJ at some point but this NOT the big fish I'm hot to get.

Coming off the 20-21 season, pairing Randle with Lavine was my dream scenario!

Now you got that albatross contract, disappointing play, and an inflated market where you're not even able to benefit from buying low.

LOL if Thibs been pissed at RJ's defense and we give him Lavine instead...

50 minutes.

well what if it was like RJ/Rose/Obi and the Bucks/Wiz (heavily protected) picks? That is pretty low cost no? You keep all your future FRPs and trade out some spare parts for a bigger fish

That awkward mix of buying low and selling low at the same time. Who's more likely fix their issues and trend upward, RJ or Zach? I don't have an answer. I still prefer to keep RJ, but if you've given up on him (and maybe the FO has), then it makes sense.

RJ + Obi (who evidently is carrying more value around the league than I thought), plus 2 protected firsts for Lavine in year 1 of his 5 year $215M contract.

32 minutes.

fishmike wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:59 minutes.

yeah man... I am pretty sure we are moving on from RJ at some point but this NOT the big fish I'm hot to get.

Coming off the 20-21 season, pairing Randle with Lavine was my dream scenario!

Now you got that albatross contract, disappointing play, and an inflated market where you're not even able to benefit from buying low.

LOL if Thibs been pissed at RJ's defense and we give him Lavine instead...

50 minutes.

well what if it was like RJ/Rose/Obi and the Bucks/Wiz (heavily protected) picks? That is pretty low cost no? You keep all your future FRPs and trade out some spare parts for a bigger fish

That awkward mix of buying low and selling low at the same time. Who's more likely fix their issues and trend upward, RJ or Zach? I don't have an answer. I still prefer to keep RJ, but if you've given up on him (and maybe the FO has), then it makes sense.

RJ + Obi (who evidently is carrying more value around the league than I thought), plus 2 protected firsts for Lavine in year 1 of his 5 year $215M contract.

32 minutes.

yeah its really hard. Shooter's league says Zach by far the more valuable guy. With Brunson/Randle's already established scoring Zach should get a LOT of good looks. I am tough on RJ and Obi but still like them both. Zach bigtime scares me. The hope would be a Booker type arc... good scorer but not a winner until he was on a better/right team

Fair points.

mattshaw78 wrote:Doubt this happens because didn't Thibs wanted him traded why would he want him again

lol that was literally a decade and for Jimmy Butler

I know i wouldn't. WAY TOO MANY THINGS can go wrong with this deal. guy's knee and contract could destroy us. On the flip side if the deal is as suggested above centered around RJ I could get behind it too. RJ may continue to grow and become an AS, or he might continue to drive us nuts his whole career with selfish, inconsistent play for long stretches of a game

If i were in charge i'd push for Bojan or Bridges. If we get Bojan that can space the floor and give RJ room to operated. If we get Mikal i'd suspect RJ could be part of that deal but Mikal is a stud -- never hurt, never misses a game. I'm surprised he even comes out of games. Never tires

Chandler wrote:
All i have to say is Leon has giant brass cajones if he pulls this off.

I know i wouldn't. WAY TOO MANY THINGS can go wrong with this deal. guy's knee and contract could destroy us. On the flip side if the deal is as suggested above centered around RJ I could get behind it too. RJ may continue to grow and become an AS, or he might continue to drive us nuts his whole career with selfish, inconsistent play for long stretches of a game

If i were in charge i'd push for Bojan or Bridges. If we get Bojan that can space the floor and give RJ room to operated. If we get Mikal i'd suspect RJ could be part of that deal but Mikal is a stud -- never hurt, never misses a game. I'm surprised he even comes out of games. Never tires

Thibs is salivating

GustavBahler wrote:

Chandler wrote:
All i have to say is Leon has giant brass cajones if he pulls this off.

I know i wouldn't. WAY TOO MANY THINGS can go wrong with this deal. guy's knee and contract could destroy us. On the flip side if the deal is as suggested above centered around RJ I could get behind it too. RJ may continue to grow and become an AS, or he might continue to drive us nuts his whole career with selfish, inconsistent play for long stretches of a game

If i were in charge i'd push for Bojan or Bridges. If we get Bojan that can space the floor and give RJ room to operated. If we get Mikal i'd suspect RJ could be part of that deal but Mikal is a stud -- never hurt, never misses a game. I'm surprised he even comes out of games. Never tires

Thibs is salivating

Also Thibs: "Challenge accepted!"

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Chandler wrote:
All i have to say is Leon has giant brass cajones if he pulls this off.

I know i wouldn't. WAY TOO MANY THINGS can go wrong with this deal. guy's knee and contract could destroy us. On the flip side if the deal is as suggested above centered around RJ I could get behind it too. RJ may continue to grow and become an AS, or he might continue to drive us nuts his whole career with selfish, inconsistent play for long stretches of a game

If i were in charge i'd push for Bojan or Bridges. If we get Bojan that can space the floor and give RJ room to operated. If we get Mikal i'd suspect RJ could be part of that deal but Mikal is a stud -- never hurt, never misses a game. I'm surprised he even comes out of games. Never tires

Thibs is salivating

Also Thibs: "Challenge accepted!"

LMAO..yup

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martin wrote:We can all exhale. I think

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Injuries and that cap hit would be a lot to worry about.

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:We can all exhale. I think

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Injuries and that cap hit would be a lot to worry about.

And Thibs threatened to make the FO run 50 laps around the gym.

ramtour420 wrote:Oh crap. We better not. This guy checks off all the wrong boxes. No D. Often hurt. Bad contract. Maybe past his prime? I hope we stay away

fishmike wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh crap. We better not. This guy checks off all the wrong boxes. No D. Often hurt. Bad contract. Maybe past his prime? I hope we stay away

ramtour is up from his nap in time for 420... trade deadline is over bud We clear... Its the Josh Hart trade and that's it