Knicks · Julius Randle is the best player in the league (page 3)

Nalod @ 3/5/2023 5:16 PM
Knicks are young which might explain the good injury experience. Other than Mitch, nobody been out extended.
Two 22 year olds starting, and IQ is 23.
Knickoftime @ 3/5/2023 5:20 PM
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Don't agree it's a great take.

There's nothing in Macri's contrition that indicates he'd have found religion on not being an a-hole if Randle wasn't having such a good year.

It's like apologizing when you get caught.

That isn't a proactive confession/apology. He got caught.

Good take is not having to apologize for being an a-hole in the first place.

ESOMKnicks @ 3/5/2023 5:23 PM
As great as he may be, on an uninhabited island I'd rather have that that bag of potatoes instead of him.
martin @ 3/5/2023 5:52 PM
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Extreme takes make more clicks.

I thought it was genuine

Knickoftime @ 3/5/2023 5:54 PM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Extreme takes make more clicks.

I thought it was genuine

65 games into the season immediately after Randle hits a game winner.

What a coincidence!

martin @ 3/5/2023 5:54 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Don't agree it's a great take.

There's nothing in Macri's contrition that indicates he'd have found religion on not being an a-hole if Randle wasn't having such a good year.

It's like apologizing when you get caught.

That isn't a proactive confession/apology. He got caught.

Good take is not having to apologize for being an a-hole in the first place.

That’s fair too. Macari let us know his thought process was not going to the next level, let’s hope he can get there.

martin @ 3/5/2023 6:20 PM


“The load management, taking games off, has never really been a topic of discussion in my mind for me,” Randle said. “I put way too much into it to take games off. For me personally, that’s just how I feel. I understand the science and all that different stuff behind it. But I guess I have my own science. For me, I feel better doing things. I’m active. On top of that, I just put way too much into my body, for me personally to cheat myself out of being available for my team.

“From what I know, and just talking to my trainer, what I know about my body and experiencing it with me, understand that I am active even if I am a little sore. Whether it’s just going outside on a walk, stretching, mobility stuff. The more I stay active doing stuff, the better I feel. If I feel like I’m doing a lot and I take time off, it’s like when somebody first starts working out, they start working out real hard and they’re sore, and then stop, and they work out again and they’re sore all over again. It’s better to just be consistent. That’s just my theory.”

Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau has been criticized for his overuse of players, but Randle’s unwillingness to sit predates their time together. Randle has played in every game this season and has already had three seasons in which he missed no more than one game, including two years ago when he led the NBA in minutes played. This season, only Minnesota’s Anthony Edwards has played more total minutes.

Nalod @ 3/6/2023 6:27 AM
If Jules iso game is a preview of the playoffs im not feeling great about it.
I understand thats a big part of his game. We gonna ride that as far as it can go.
EwingsGlass @ 3/6/2023 6:57 AM
martin wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Don't agree it's a great take.

There's nothing in Macri's contrition that indicates he'd have found religion on not being an a-hole if Randle wasn't having such a good year.

It's like apologizing when you get caught.

That isn't a proactive confession/apology. He got caught.

Good take is not having to apologize for being an a-hole in the first place.

That’s fair too. Macari let us know his thought process was not going to the next level, let’s hope he can get there.

I dunno. Anyone who “knew” Randle was going to have this season was operating more in faith than observation and statistics. So, holier than thought faith can be self-righteous. But I was in the disbelief crowd. But, I needed him to 1) Take more efficient shot and remove the 18 foot fadeaway (for the most part, he has), 2) take better 3s (he is shooting the same threes better) about 5% higher. 3) Get his teammates more involved and 4) attack the basket more.

Now, a stronger argument is that the addition of Brunson has taken some defensive pressure off him. They can’t double both him and Brunson. And that is largely right. But he is making better decisions and the team is make better decisions around him.

EwingsGlass @ 3/6/2023 6:59 AM
Nalod wrote:If Jules iso game is a preview of the playoffs im not feeling great about it.
I understand thats a big part of his game. We gonna ride that as far as it can go.

Don’t think this is right. I think the takeaway is that the Knicks starting 5 can hang with the toughest teams in the league and their bench is deeper thanks most.

Nalod @ 3/6/2023 8:16 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Nalod wrote:If Jules iso game is a preview of the playoffs im not feeling great about it.
I understand thats a big part of his game. We gonna ride that as far as it can go.

Don’t think this is right. I think the takeaway is that the Knicks starting 5 can hang with the toughest teams in the league and their bench is deeper thanks most.

That is now established.
Please not to think this is not my dominant thought. Randle is iso as much as he did last year. This year Brunson is here to dilute and winning matters. He is hitting his shots better. But the iso is the same.
My take is when it goes wrong, and it will a times (all teams go thru this) fans are more prone to focus on the negative, and this is no different. The “Jab step Boogie” he is doing has a fine line. Last night he seemed slower to engage. This matters. The iso for last two games is ok cuz we won. If not, we’d be “Melo-izing” him again. Randle is a throw back with his jab step iso.

Good and bad, What I also noticed was knicks had to rush shots as the clock ran down. RJ got a few he had to hoist as I believe did JHart. My only critique for IQ was this time management. Credit Bostons Defense but lets just say IQ has more more work to do here. Its nothing new with him BTW from what I see just part of his development.
Grimes looked out of sorts last night. Maybe on the other end of the spectrum he was rushing things?
Defense effort was there adn he got a few bad calls against him. Seems some lack of experience in the nuance of the game is apparent.

Hell of a game for IQ! Quite a performance on National TV!!!!

Knickoftime @ 3/6/2023 10:50 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Don't agree it's a great take.

There's nothing in Macri's contrition that indicates he'd have found religion on not being an a-hole if Randle wasn't having such a good year.

It's like apologizing when you get caught.

That isn't a proactive confession/apology. He got caught.

Good take is not having to apologize for being an a-hole in the first place.

That’s fair too. Macari let us know his thought process was not going to the next level, let’s hope he can get there.

I dunno. Anyone who “knew” Randle was going to have this season was operating more in faith than observation and statistics. So, holier than thought faith can be self-righteous. But I was in the disbelief crowd.

That Randle is better than last year and whether or not anyone predicted Randle would be better than last year isn't the point.

See it on social media, see it here. It SEEMS (my perception anyway) that some people can't distinguish between TYPES of TONES of criticism.

Macari isn't and shouldn't have to apologize for being critical of Randle's PLAY last year. He says it outright himself. He got personal.

That's a whole different thing.

Predicting he could not get better and the Knicks could never win with him and he should be traded for anything is third, whole OTHER thing.

That's just stupid.

ccch @ 3/6/2023 12:02 PM
Nalod wrote:If Jules iso game is a preview of the playoffs im not feeling great about it.
I understand thats a big part of his game. We gonna ride that as far as it can go.

Right on. If JR doesn't fix his technique of trying to go one on one with his back to the basket we'll be in a lot of trouble. It's been going on all year where he has no sense of court awareness and gets pick-pocketed from his blind/ weak side. There is much film on this and I'm guessing future teams will continue to exploit it.

KnickDanger @ 3/6/2023 6:12 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Extreme takes make more clicks.

I thought it was genuine

65 games into the season immediately after Randle hits a game winner.

What a coincidence!

He’s a snake.

Knickoftime @ 3/6/2023 6:31 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:GREAT TAKE

Extreme takes make more clicks.

I thought it was genuine

65 games into the season immediately after Randle hits a game winner.

What a coincidence!

He’s a snake.

I really don't know much about that guy.

Simple equation:

1. No excuse for what he's owning up to after the fact(and no Mike Breen, passion doesn't excuse it)
2. I'd take it as genuine in October.
3. Offered in March with Randle as an MVP candidate and immediately after hitting a game winner ... ummmm, no. Save it. He'll do it again next chance he gets.

KnickDanger @ 3/6/2023 9:43 PM
Well he is the Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

Dump Randle! That’s just for old time’s sake.

EwingsGlass @ 3/7/2023 6:38 AM
KnickDanger wrote:Well he is the Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

Dump Randle! That’s just for old time’s sake.

We do need a keen nickname for his back to the basket turnovers at the end of regulation. You know Head down, triple teamed, not gonna pass it and everyone on the court knows it. Spinover was pretty good. Something like “GameOver”. Or LameOver. TTT - triple team turnover. Got to trust his teammates to make the open shot.

Swishfm3 @ 3/7/2023 6:51 AM
TPercy wrote:Is this an emotional response? 1000%. Do I want to hear it though? No. You can debate your fathers for all I care but he is on a different level.

Certainly not the best but definitely top 5

I would say he should be in the MVP conversation.

Joking
Embiid
Giannis
Tatum
Randle

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