Knicks · Grimes is self sacrificing (page 2)
I do not think this is solely a player thing; it's a coach and teammate thing. need to continually reinforce take good shots, we'll deal with the consequences
fortunately the team seems to have great chemistry and good coaching so i expect improvement over time
we're still not used to ascending players.
EwingsGlass wrote:Nalod wrote:fishmike wrote:Panos wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Seems like Barrett is calling seniority on him quite a bit. Calling switch on off ball position to be in place for the pass out of traffic. Team could prioritize getting Grimes some open looks. But the Big-3 are still a little focused on ball dominance right now. Grimes can open up more space for them on the floor.I agree. If you get Grimes more involved in the offense, say 10 shots minimum per game, this team takes it to the next level.
This is why I have been calling for Barrett’s minutes and shots. RJ is our least eff% guy. I think others could elevate the squad even more. Not saying dump or cut RJ but he’s not earning his shots and guys like grimes look when they get them
Call for his head!!!!
Your responses aren't well thought out in this thread. Kind of just noisy rhetoric. If the comment is that the team should allocate some of the shots from the guy shooting with a .487 eFG to the guy shooting with a .566 eFG, that's not an emotional call for someone's head, its basic math.
You made up a story about Grimes not finishing at the rim, even though the 25% of his shots that he takes from 0-3 feet he finishes at a 73% clip compared to RJ who finishes at a 66% clip.
I think the overall sentiment is that Grimes should get a few more shot attempts and maybe Barrett should get a few less. That's not permanent or incriminating, its just that Grimes is doing well and deserves a little more action.
Who said anything about RJ?
Grimes needs more touches I agree. I never prescribe for knowing how to fix things.
“Noisy rhetoric”? Its sarcasm dude. Y’all know more than the coaches. Its funny as shit really.
Actually it was RJ’s head I was calling for!
Grimes “deserves” things. C’mon man, the dude is just 22 and will be fine. I love the kid.
I love all our yoot. They got us here THIS YEAR. Fucking winstreak is messing with some of you.
Panos wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Seems like Barrett is calling seniority on him quite a bit. Calling switch on off ball position to be in place for the pass out of traffic. Team could prioritize getting Grimes some open looks. But the Big-3 are still a little focused on ball dominance right now. Grimes can open up more space for them on the floor.I agree. If you get Grimes more involved in the offense, say 10 shots minimum per game, this team takes it to the next level.
Sounds great and I'd love to see it, but with Thibs as coach, we are an ISO offense unfortunately. That said, I think Grimes will, by next year, be a lot more involved in the offense.
And damn, what a GREAT GREAT defender he is. Him, Hart and IQ out there together are a terror. ( As an aside - Jalen has a way better positive effect on Randle imo and that is where we need a true PG out there for Randle.)
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:Panos wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Seems like Barrett is calling seniority on him quite a bit. Calling switch on off ball position to be in place for the pass out of traffic. Team could prioritize getting Grimes some open looks. But the Big-3 are still a little focused on ball dominance right now. Grimes can open up more space for them on the floor.I agree. If you get Grimes more involved in the offense, say 10 shots minimum per game, this team takes it to the next level.
Sounds great and I'd love to see it, but with Thibs as coach, we are an ISO offense unfortunately. That said, I think Grimes will, by next year, be a lot more involved in the offense.
And damn, what a GREAT GREAT defender he is. Him, Hart and IQ out there together are a terror. ( As an aside - Jalen has a way better positive effect on Randle imo and that is where we need a true PG out there for Randle.)
Grimes defends with his feet and has to learn to let some things go. He is getting some fouls called against him that he attempts to make great plays on. NBA is also about letting things go. Mitch learned his and is doing much better not trying too hard and fouling. This is in part of Grimes maybe getting derailed. Super young player.
Im enjoying this team this year and not worrying about who goes and who stays. That will all happen in time.
ramtour420 wrote:blkexec wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Nalod wrote:fishmike wrote:Panos wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Seems like Barrett is calling seniority on him quite a bit. Calling switch on off ball position to be in place for the pass out of traffic. Team could prioritize getting Grimes some open looks. But the Big-3 are still a little focused on ball dominance right now. Grimes can open up more space for them on the floor.I agree. If you get Grimes more involved in the offense, say 10 shots minimum per game, this team takes it to the next level.
This is why I have been calling for Barrett’s minutes and shots. RJ is our least eff% guy. I think others could elevate the squad even more. Not saying dump or cut RJ but he’s not earning his shots and guys like grimes look when they get them
Call for his head!!!!
Your responses aren't well thought out in this thread. Kind of just noisy rhetoric. If the comment is that the team should allocate some of the shots from the guy shooting with a .487 eFG to the guy shooting with a .566 eFG, that's not an emotional call for someone's head, its basic math.
You made up a story about Grimes not finishing at the rim, even though the 25% of his shots that he takes from 0-3 feet he finishes at a 73% clip compared to RJ who finishes at a 66% clip.
I think the overall sentiment is that Grimes should get a few more shot attempts and maybe Barrett should get a few less. That's not permanent or incriminating, its just that Grimes is doing well and deserves a little more action.
Ewing, I agree with you. But I never understood these types of discussions. Maybe thats how Grimes play, when he's playing with several vets and ball hogs. Grimes is the ultimate team player. He's not wired to be the main guy right now. He just wants to fit in and help the team win (just my guess). If he was off the bench, I think we would see a different player. But in the starting unit, there's not enough balls to go around. Josh Hart would be a perfect fit for this starting unit, which is probably why Thibs goes with Hart to finish games. Keeps Grimes confidence up and allows him to grow into the player he will become, instead of forcing it and jeopardizing the team wins.
It's a balancing act with coach. And Grimes is just wired different compared to RJ. RJ is wired to be the man. He will look off Randle and Brunson at times. Grimes will never do that. Thats why I love his game. He just plays the right way. Unfortunately, this style of play will be considered a negative to fans and will definitely hurt his next contract. But that doesnt mean he's not a great young talent to have on the team.
Thibs has to figure out how to get the best out of him, without losing his confidence. Moving Hart to the starting unit and Grimes to the bench might have a reverse affect on his development or the team overall. If it aint broken, don't fix it. We need his defense and that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. But real fans of basketball and see his value and impact. I will look a little closer this game. But I think his role dictates his impact on offense. That has nothing to do with his NBA abilities.
One thing I absolutely love about him is that he picks his spots. Seems like all his shots are good shots( I mean they are taken in the flow of the offense) he does not force the issue, he takes shots that the D gives him- there is no hesitation. All of his shots are smart shots it seems. I really really like that. Have we seen him take even one heat check shot? Not that I remember
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