Knicks · Is this better than Linsanity? As good as the 54 win or 2020 teams that weren't sustainable? Better the 1999 run? (page 2)

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Better than both because it’s more sustainable. This is the best Knicks situation in the UK era.

We finally here?

Martin, I think you need to close the site to new members. Only losers like us that have been around through the thick and thin.
Or at least put a gold star next to the old timers so we can ignore the opinions of the band-wagoners.

we all deserve gold stars! lol

Fuck that, we deserve reparations!

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Better than both because it’s more sustainable. This is the best Knicks situation in the UK era.

We finally here?

Martin, I think you need to close the site to new members. Only losers like us that have been around through the thick and thin.
Or at least put a gold star next to the old timers so we can ignore the opinions of the band-wagoners.

we all deserve gold stars! lol

Fuck that, we deserve reparations!

you got that right, 20+ years worth of Fire Thibs, Fire MDA, Fire Fiz, Fisher, Horny. We FREEEEEEEEE

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Better than both because it’s more sustainable. This is the best Knicks situation in the UK era.

We finally here?

Martin, I think you need to close the site to new members. Only losers like us that have been around through the thick and thin.
Or at least put a gold star next to the old timers so we can ignore the opinions of the band-wagoners.

we all deserve gold stars! lol

Fuck that, we deserve reparations!

you got that right, 20+ years worth of Fire Thibs, Fire MDA, Fire Fiz, Fisher, Horny. We FREEEEEEEEE

The 'Fire Thibs' people are still out there.

PT is their latest hill to die on.

Footnote, the Eastern Conference Champion Celtics were also 39-27 through 66 games last year.

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Better than both because it’s more sustainable. This is the best Knicks situation in the UK era.

We finally here?

Martin, I think you need to close the site to new members. Only losers like us that have been around through the thick and thin.
Or at least put a gold star next to the old timers so we can ignore the opinions of the band-wagoners.

we all deserve gold stars! lol

Fuck that, we deserve reparations!

you got that right, 20+ years worth of Fire Thibs, Fire MDA, Fire Fiz, Fisher, Horny. We FREEEEEEEEE

How was ISIAH F-ing THOMAS (who still haunts my nightmares) not mentioned in your list?!

The physicality. The rivalries. The intensity!!!

But I still say the 90's was "better".

Nalod wrote:I think fans here are for the most part too enthusiastic over this win streak and set up for a frustrating end.
Enjoy what is, not what can get better.
Think its smart to be talking about IQ money so soon as some are? Randle is the best player in the league?
In december some of y'all were wanting to burn it down.
Im not saying "I believed all the time". I was saying let the games tell the story.
And they are.
And they will.
So enjoy it, if we finish good, enjoy NOT being the the play in.
If we finish, enjoy a tough ass opening round. 4-5's are always a tough match up.
Im not taking a thing for granted. We been at this way to long for me to start getting uppity about expectations and lay blame if we don't beem that bloated ideal.
The wins are sweet.

Is it better than linsanity? I'll let know know after the season.
Better than 54 win season? BY the end Kidd coudl not walk, Kurt got hurt, Camby looked sleepy, and Rashweed was well beyond cooked. WE crawled to the finish line on the back of Melo.

Voice of reason..Thank you Nalod

Imo it's the best Knicks team since the early-mid 1990's and might be the most talented I've ever witnessed. Especially on Offense.

All I truly know is the All-Time greatest Knicks 2nd half (final 22 games) is 18-4 back in 1992-1993 (an ECF 60 win team who took Chicago 6 games ECF)

And the way it's looking @ 6-0 after the All-Star break + 9-0 previous 9 + 11-1 previous 12? + Charlotte Hornets tomorrow?

This Knicks team isn't losing another 4 games (final 16 games).

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We're about to head into the Playoffs HOTTER than any Knicks team within Franchise History
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Panos wrote:Who the duck is Cambridge?

One of the OAKLAND heroes! 6'11' from UMass, Ewing Theory proof, later DPOY in Denver and vet on the 2012 squad. No love for the spell check?

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:I think fans here are for the most part too enthusiastic over this win streak and set up for a frustrating end.
Enjoy what is, not what can get better.
Think its smart to be talking about IQ money so soon as some are? Randle is the best player in the league?
In december some of y'all were wanting to burn it down.
Im not saying "I believed all the time". I was saying let the games tell the story.
And they are.
And they will.
So enjoy it, if we finish good, enjoy NOT being the the play in.
If we finish, enjoy a tough ass opening round. 4-5's are always a tough match up.
Im not taking a thing for granted. We been at this way to long for me to start getting uppity about expectations and lay blame if we don't beem that bloated ideal.
The wins are sweet.

Is it better than linsanity? I'll let know know after the season.
Better than 54 win season? BY the end Kidd coudl not walk, Kurt got hurt, Camby looked sleepy, and Rashweed was well beyond cooked. WE crawled to the finish line on the back of Melo.

Voice of reason..Thank you Nalod

Nalod, I like the vibe, cautious optimism. We have to keep our expectations tempered. Real ballsy decision making by Thibs early in the season benching ER and Rose for Grimes and McBride and great move by the front office getting J Hart to kind of replace both. There's still a lot of basketball left to be played. Let's not get disappointed if we lose as the 5 seed when that was kind of the rosiest outlook at the start.

They went on a run and eventually lost to the Celtics in Russell's final title season.

Brunson is having a breakout season, like Clyde did after he was given full control of the team, and Hart has provided toughness and a veteran presence like DeBusschere did, even though he hasn't been as productive as DD was.

Lineup adjustments have also allowed IQ to blossom and to be honest, his emergence is also a bit like Clyde's emergence that year.

The comparison is far from perfect, but that is what I'm going with.

CleaverGreene wrote:I'm going with the 68/69 Knicks...the one which traded Walt Bellamy, a very good center, and Howard Komives, a solid but unspectacular PG, for Dave DeBusschere.

They went on a run and eventually lost to the Celtics in Russell's final title season.

Brunson is having a breakout season, like Clyde did after he was given full control of the team, and Hart has provided toughness and a veteran presence like DeBusschere did, even though he hasn't been as productive as DD was.

Lineup adjustments have also allowed IQ to blossom and to be honest, his emergence is also a bit like Clyde's emergence that year.

The comparison is far from perfect, but that is what I'm going with.

You're going way back. 50+ years😂

The 99' team was the 8th seed. They were a "sleeper" back then, but that wasnt really accurate because of the roster. Even without Ewing. Unfortunately ran into Pops and the Spurs, at the start of their championship run, their dynasty.

As Nalod pointed out, the 54 win team ran out of gas by the all star break. Most of the star veterans retired during the season, or the following season somewhere else. It was a fun half season though.

Linsanity I figured would last until Lin was properly scouted. His relenteless pursuit of a cash grab the same season, kind of sours the memory for me.

This season has had its ups and down. Doubt we would be having this discussion without Brunson in a Knick uniform. Right now I would rank it short of the 99' team, for obvious reasons.

Speaking of the 99' team. I believe Brunson has been the biggest game changer since Sprewell. Statistically its Melo of course. But Melo didnt bring the infectious energy that Spree brought, that Brunson brings.

Melo was more mercenary, for lack of a better word.

Chandler wrote:i'm in the this is better camp

we have a bunch of ascending players, so things can get better still (e.g., if Grimes starts hitting his shots, or Obi wakes up), no divas (sorry Melo), who like each other and play for each other. Linsanity felt unreal like a fairy god mother said let's make this UFA NBA's best player for a stretch. 54 wins had the Melodrame -- whether he and Stat could simultaneously play their best, complement each other. 2020 was awesome but had the bubble, unreal-ness. 1999 was awesome in so many ways but also felt like a team getting super hot at precisely the right time.

My biggest concern with this team is not peaking too early. Hoping Thibs keeps them even keeled

It’s better… the “ascending” players nails it. Even Jules shows new wrinkles to his game and a heightened desire to give up the ball. This is a good squad with nothing but upside.

gradyandrew wrote:

CleaverGreene wrote:I'm going with the 68/69 Knicks...the one which traded Walt Bellamy, a very good center, and Howard Komives, a solid but unspectacular PG, for Dave DeBusschere.

They went on a run and eventually lost to the Celtics in Russell's final title season.

Brunson is having a breakout season, like Clyde did after he was given full control of the team, and Hart has provided toughness and a veteran presence like DeBusschere did, even though he hasn't been as productive as DD was.

Lineup adjustments have also allowed IQ to blossom and to be honest, his emergence is also a bit like Clyde's emergence that year.

The comparison is far from perfect, but that is what I'm going with.

You're going way back. 50+ years😂

I was in my teens when the trade went down, and the team went on a run, setting up the 69/70 title team. Rooted for the NY Nets too, at that time. It might have been a high point for NY BB with the success those two teams had.

If Reed stays healthy, we would've won 2 more titles, IMO.

Hoping that this team can have the same kind of magic run over the next 3 years. They have a lot of energy, and they seem to be coming to believe they are an elite team.

We will see.