Knicks · Would you: young Barrett for dame? (page 3)

fishmike @ 4/14/2023 12:14 PM
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
joec32033 wrote:I do offer this up. It is talent or performance that correlates closer to contract value? I offer that it is performance.

I'd offer up that it is more than talent or performance. A lot of it is just circumstance of both the individual and the team.

If a team is desperate to keep a particular player cause they are over the cap and wouldn't be able to sign anyone else and risk losing the player for nothing, the team will overpay.

No one should be surprised by Tatum being #43 coming off of a rookie contract.

100% makes my origional point for me, but in a better way than I have been trying to show.. The only point I am trying to make is that contract values do not specifically correlate to just talent.

if you are paid below the max it pretty much does. Its rookie scale, max scale and everything in between. If RJ or his agent believed he was top tier he would NOT have signed that contract. He would have had a monster 4th year and earned his max. Bottom line is RJ didnt bet on himself. It's telling
Panos @ 4/16/2023 8:17 AM
Right now, I think I would do RJ for the corpse of Charles Smith.
Killa4luv @ 4/17/2023 10:43 AM
VDesai wrote:We don't maximize our talent by trading RJ for another undersized combo guard to pair with Brunson. We need a lengthy SG/SF who can play defense and stretch the floor. Guys like Trey Murphy III and Cameron Johnson seem to be the best kind of fits.

Dame is a great, but will be in his mid 30s and hasn't played over 70 games in 5 yrs and leaves us weak defensively. And it will cost way more than RJ.


you said it all right here. I'd love to have Dame if somehow Brunson was a 3, but it just doesnt make sense to have a backcourt of Brunson/Dame.
fishmike @ 4/17/2023 11:09 AM
Killa4luv wrote:
VDesai wrote:We don't maximize our talent by trading RJ for another undersized combo guard to pair with Brunson. We need a lengthy SG/SF who can play defense and stretch the floor. Guys like Trey Murphy III and Cameron Johnson seem to be the best kind of fits.

Dame is a great, but will be in his mid 30s and hasn't played over 70 games in 5 yrs and leaves us weak defensively. And it will cost way more than RJ.


you said it all right here. I'd love to have Dame if somehow Brunson was a 3, but it just doesnt make sense to have a backcourt of Brunson/Dame.
whats up fella :)

I know its early but Brunson is our finisher. Let that sink in... we dont need Dame cause we got Brunson as our finisher.

They will start blitzing him early and making him give up the ball in crunch time, we'll see how it plays out. I 100% agree with you guys. Ingram is the guy for me. Played w/ Jules. Could consolidate RJ/Obi/McBride and some draft comp for Ingram and then roll with Brunson/Grimes/Ingram/Mitch and IQ/JHart/IHart as the main 8... 9th and 10th spots are up for grabs

Rookie @ 4/17/2023 11:57 AM
Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets
BigDaddyG @ 4/17/2023 12:02 PM
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Rookie @ 4/17/2023 12:08 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

BigDaddyG @ 4/17/2023 12:13 PM
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?
Knixkik @ 4/17/2023 12:20 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

The Barrett situation is really tough right now. I do like the Cam idea. I also like his teammates DFS and Royce O’Neale. I would take either of them for this particular team in place of Barrett. When you have a team like this Knicks team, fit is clearly very important. I would move Barrett for a good backup and start Hart or Quickley in his place. But can you really move Barrett for a backup role player even if the team is likely to be a little better? It’s a tough situation.

Rookie @ 4/17/2023 12:50 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

BigDaddyG @ 4/17/2023 12:58 PM
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Philc1 @ 4/17/2023 2:31 PM
If the suns get eliminated round 1 I can see KD requesting yet another trade. Maybe then package RJ, Obi and picks
Rookie @ 4/17/2023 5:00 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

Knixkik @ 4/17/2023 8:54 PM
On a related note, I’ll be surprised if Portland doesn’t blow it up and Lillard isn’t moved. I don’t see what Portland does to really satisfy Lillard. They can maybe move the 5th pick for Anunoby, but then what? Anunoby could leave in a year and he still doesn’t move the needle much for a team that missed the play-in altogether. They traded Hart who was perfect for a Lillard team for a late first rounder. Doesn’t sound like a team that wants to retool quickly around Lillard. Portland could have a top 5 pick, Sharpe and Simons to rebuild around without bottoming out, plus what they get for Lillard.
BigDaddyG @ 4/17/2023 10:00 PM
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Rookie @ 4/17/2023 10:18 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

BigDaddyG @ 4/17/2023 10:23 PM
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

Johnson is a perimeter4 who can play 3 in certain lineups. He played 4 in Phoenix. I don't see him as a clean fit at the 3. He would get eaten up on D. And there's the price tag.

Rookie @ 4/17/2023 11:38 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
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BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

Johnson is a perimeter4 who can play 3 in certain lineups. He played 4 in Phoenix. I don't see him as a clean fit at the 3. He would get eaten up on D. And there's the price tag.

Let us hope your insanity can be cured. Johnson played some 4 in Phoenix so he could share the floor with Bridges who plays the 3. It’s the same deal in Brooklyn. Johnson is not strong enough to guard big PF’s like Randle. He is a liability on D guarding PF’s. He is a wing. Johnson and Bridges are both wings. If Johnson is a PF then I guess Royce O’Neil is a Center. Get how this works yet?

BigDaddyG @ 4/18/2023 10:11 AM
Rookie wrote:
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Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

Johnson is a perimeter4 who can play 3 in certain lineups. He played 4 in Phoenix. I don't see him as a clean fit at the 3. He would get eaten up on D. And there's the price tag.

Let us hope your insanity can be cured. Johnson played some 4 in Phoenix so he could share the floor with Bridges who plays the 3. It’s the same deal in Brooklyn. Johnson is not strong enough to guard big PF’s like Randle. He is a liability on D guarding PF’s. He is a wing. Johnson and Bridges are both wings. If Johnson is a PF then I guess Royce O’Neil is a Center. Get how this works yet?


Let's hope you never have to manage the roster of a real NBA franchise. You were probably one of those dudes who thought Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis in the same backcourt was a good idea. Johnson is a tweener who's best position, defensively, is the 4.
Rookie @ 4/18/2023 12:42 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
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Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

Johnson is a perimeter4 who can play 3 in certain lineups. He played 4 in Phoenix. I don't see him as a clean fit at the 3. He would get eaten up on D. And there's the price tag.

Let us hope your insanity can be cured. Johnson played some 4 in Phoenix so he could share the floor with Bridges who plays the 3. It’s the same deal in Brooklyn. Johnson is not strong enough to guard big PF’s like Randle. He is a liability on D guarding PF’s. He is a wing. Johnson and Bridges are both wings. If Johnson is a PF then I guess Royce O’Neil is a Center. Get how this works yet?


Let's hope you never have to manage the roster of a real NBA franchise. You were probably one of those dudes who thought Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis in the same backcourt was a good idea. Johnson is a tweener who's best position, defensively, is the 4.

I can't think of any PF's who weigh 210lbs. Not a tweener, wing player.

BigDaddyG @ 4/18/2023 1:44 PM
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Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.


But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

Johnson is a perimeter4 who can play 3 in certain lineups. He played 4 in Phoenix. I don't see him as a clean fit at the 3. He would get eaten up on D. And there's the price tag.

Let us hope your insanity can be cured. Johnson played some 4 in Phoenix so he could share the floor with Bridges who plays the 3. It’s the same deal in Brooklyn. Johnson is not strong enough to guard big PF’s like Randle. He is a liability on D guarding PF’s. He is a wing. Johnson and Bridges are both wings. If Johnson is a PF then I guess Royce O’Neil is a Center. Get how this works yet?


Let's hope you never have to manage the roster of a real NBA franchise. You were probably one of those dudes who thought Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis in the same backcourt was a good idea. Johnson is a tweener who's best position, defensively, is the 4.

I can't think of any PF's who weigh 210lbs. Not a tweener, wing player.

Great, just keep kicking Evan Mobley while he's down.

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