This game is MUST win, IMO.
After a not a great showing by most players, but winning game one and getting some teeth knocked out in game 2, My feeling is they NEED to win game 3 or else knocked onto the mat, and psychologically knocked out of the series. So important to bounce bank in game 3.
I wouldn't say Game 3 is a must win but we need to come out of the Garden this weekend with a split at the very least.
I do think we'll win Game 3 in a blowout tomorrow. 
If we get knocked out again bad, its not gonna feel good!
If we lose a tight game, then perhaps not all is lost.
If we lose game 3, that's a lot of pressure for the remainder of the series.
We either lose the series, or go into the next round without much time to rest and regroup.
Game 2 royally sucked. Kudos to their defense, and fire Thibs for not adjusting one iota.
Unless we win game 3. Then keep Thibs.
BTW, I think iHart needs more minutes.
Let’s see, we split on the favored team’s home court, something I imagine many of us would have signed for and at least temporarily gives us home court advantage. Has that stopped the pants wetting and RJ sucks threads (along with foreshadowing dump Randle/fire Thibs ones)? Of course not!
I’d say if Cleveland has three wins then it’s a must win, but I get it. Go New York Go New York go!
KnickDanger wrote:Let;s see, we split on the favored team7;s home court, something I imagine many of us would have signed for and at least temporarily gives us home court advantage. Has that stopped the pants wetting and RJ sucks threads (along with foreshadowing dump Randle/fire Thibs ones)? Of course not!Id say if Cleveland has three wins then it;s a must win, but I get it. Go New York Go New York go!
If they lose, they're going to fold like origami I tell you.
Also, I'd appreciate that y'all stop usin' contractions as the mobile site code substitutes them with hexcodes in the quote and then chokes on "Add Comment". Thanks.
@Martin @Andrew
Panos wrote:KnickDanger wrote:Let;s see, we split on the favored team7;s home court, something I imagine many of us would have signed for and at least temporarily gives us home court advantage. Has that stopped the pants wetting and RJ sucks threads (along with foreshadowing dump Randle/fire Thibs ones)? Of course not!Id say if Cleveland has three wins then it;s a must win, but I get it. Go New York Go New York go!
If they lose, they're going to fold like origami I tell you.
Also, I'd appreciate that y'all stop usin' contractions as the mobile site code substitutes them with hexcodes in the quote and then chokes on "Add Comment". Thanks.
@Martin @Andrew
Wow, that apostrophe s crazy.
The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series.
Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
GustavBahler wrote:The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series. Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
I think they also might have to bite the bullet and start Brunson of guarding Garland or Mitchell. I appreciate the effort, but Garland is going to torch RJ anyway. But when you have JB guarding a competent wing like Cedi or Caris it brings another scorer into the equation. Those guys aren't world beaters, but they're competent enough to take advantage of a 5 inch height advantage.
We need to win both games really and have 3 chances to finish them off. Game two was a must win for the Cavs, they delivered. Now it's up to us to protect our home court. We have no room for error if we are to win this series
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series. Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
I think they also might have to bite the bullet and start Brunson of guarding Garland or Mitchell. I appreciate the effort, but Garland is going to torch RJ anyway. But when you have JB guarding a competent wing like Cedi or Caris it brings another scorer into the equation. Those guys aren't world beaters, but they're competent enough to take advantage of a 5 inch height advantage.
Rj guarded Garland game one. DM guarded RJ alot.
What did they adjust and execute that changed game two.
Nalod wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series. Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
I think they also might have to bite the bullet and start Brunson of guarding Garland or Mitchell. I appreciate the effort, but Garland is going to torch RJ anyway. But when you have JB guarding a competent wing like Cedi or Caris it brings another scorer into the equation. Those guys aren't world beaters, but they're competent enough to take advantage of a 5 inch height advantage.
Rj guarded Garland game one. DM guarded RJ alot.
What did they adjust and execute that changed game two.
But that's my point. No Okoro means no easy spot to hide JB. We have no choice but to accept that Garland is going score on whoever's guarding him. Doesn't matter if it's RJ, Grimes IQ... We mind as well keep JB on him and, hopefully, scheme to funnel Garland to his least efficient spots on the floor. Can't have JB guarding Caris or Cedi or whoever. They're going to kill him. Another option is to start IQ and move Grimes to the wing. I'm not saying I know the answer, just spitballing. But an adjustment does need to be made.
BigDaddyG wrote:Nalod wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series. Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
I think they also might have to bite the bullet and start Brunson of guarding Garland or Mitchell. I appreciate the effort, but Garland is going to torch RJ anyway. But when you have JB guarding a competent wing like Cedi or Caris it brings another scorer into the equation. Those guys aren't world beaters, but they're competent enough to take advantage of a 5 inch height advantage.
Rj guarded Garland game one. DM guarded RJ alot.
What did they adjust and execute that changed game two.
But that's my point. No Okoro means no easy spot to hide JB. We have no choice but to accept that Garland is going score on whoever's guarding him. Doesn't matter if it's RJ, Grimes IQ... We mind as well keep JB on him and, hopefully, scheme to funnel Garland to his least efficient spots on the floor. Can't have JB guarding Caris or Cedi or whoever. They're going to kill him. Another option is to start IQ and move Grimes to the wing. I'm not saying I know the answer, just spitballing. But an adjustment does need to be made.
No need to say you don’t know the answer, because nobody does and we all spitballing. People on this site act like spitballing is a crime. No it’s how fans chat period.
Whoever JB is guarding, they going at him. When he crosses halfcourt, they doubling him. If JB and the coaching staff can’t defeat the cavs plan to take JB out of the game on both ends, we lose this series, forget the game.
Garland understood the rotation of players the Knicks had in game 2 could not guard him. RJ no, hart guards DM, and grimes guards DM. Brunson is cooked food if he guards garland. Garland already said after game 1, we need to hit them first. And see how much the refs will let us get away with. Then he was smart to say, all Brunson does is snap his head back on every contact play to draw fouls.
The game planned to take Brunson out of the game on both ends. We need to do the same with garland. The cavs also plays 3 guards who are agile on defense and all 3 are great scorers. We need to match those 3 with our own.
Brunson
IQ
Grimes
With RJ in that starting unit, the cavs have 2 players they can attack on defense in Brunson and RJ. If you start IQ instead, they only have 1. Its going to be a hard series to win if we don’t figure out how to affectively use RJ. If he’s giving us zero impact on offense, that’s a problem because he’s not impacting on defense eventhough he’s getting starter mins.
What I am going to watch for:
When Brunson is doubled someone is open and the defense absolutely needs to be broken down. He is not doubled in the paint for f@cks sake, he gets doubled in freaking Alaska. 2 defenders are completely taken out of the game and we have a 4 on 3. If we cannot take advantage of it then Thibs needs help. Like X and O's help
ramtour420 wrote:What I am going to watch for:
When Brunson is doubled someone is open and the defense absolutely needs to be broken down. He is not doubled in the paint for f@cks sake, he gets doubled in freaking Alaska. 2 defenders are completely taken out of the game and we have a 4 on 3. If we cannot take advantage of it then Thibs needs help. Like X and O's help
The problem is Brunson and IQ are small compared to levert. When they double, they use a lot of length which blocks their vision and causes TOs. Thibs needs a better game plan. Whoever man is doing the doubling, he needs to speak up and give these guys some passing lanes. Should not be hard for thibs to figure this out.
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series. Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
I think they also might have to bite the bullet and start Brunson of guarding Garland or Mitchell. I appreciate the effort, but Garland is going to torch RJ anyway. But when you have JB guarding a competent wing like Cedi or Caris it brings another scorer into the equation. Those guys aren't world beaters, but they're competent enough to take advantage of a 5 inch height advantage.
so wait are you saying the reason RJ cant beat Garland's defense is he's not competent?
I agree w/ Panos... I'm not sure they fold but I think who wins game 3 wins this series. I can still hear RJ saying "we did our job" in winning one on the road. That's the shit that ends in L 4-1
fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series. Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
I think they also might have to bite the bullet and start Brunson of guarding Garland or Mitchell. I appreciate the effort, but Garland is going to torch RJ anyway. But when you have JB guarding a competent wing like Cedi or Caris it brings another scorer into the equation. Those guys aren't world beaters, but they're competent enough to take advantage of a 5 inch height advantage.
so wait are you saying the reason RJ cant beat Garland's defense is he's not competent? I agree w/ Panos... I'm not sure they fold but I think who wins game 3 wins this series. I can still hear RJ saying "we did our job" in winning one on the road. That's the shit that ends in L 4-1
Look, I'm gonna refrain from crapping on RJ until the game is over. But, the numbers speak for themselves.
BigDaddyG wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:The only "must" IMO is RJ/Grimes/IQ have to start delivering, or its going to be a short series. Another must is for Brunson to make more of an effort to get them going early on. That will help take some of the pressure off of him defensively.
I think they also might have to bite the bullet and start Brunson of guarding Garland or Mitchell. I appreciate the effort, but Garland is going to torch RJ anyway. But when you have JB guarding a competent wing like Cedi or Caris it brings another scorer into the equation. Those guys aren't world beaters, but they're competent enough to take advantage of a 5 inch height advantage.
so wait are you saying the reason RJ cant beat Garland's defense is he's not competent? I agree w/ Panos... I'm not sure they fold but I think who wins game 3 wins this series. I can still hear RJ saying "we did our job" in winning one on the road. That's the shit that ends in L 4-1
Look, I'm gonna refrain from crapping on RJ until the game is over. But, the numbers speak for themselves.
maybe its your first day here but the ONLY number that matters is 22 years old.
