Knicks · Team-building at its finest, and the questions it brings (page 1)

Knixkik @ 5/5/2023 9:04 PM
I have to give it to the front office, the 3 significant players they added between July and February really was a team-building clinic.

Knicks cleared necessary space for Brunson and cost was minimal. Adding a player of Brunson’s caliber (based on what we know now) typically will cost at least half a decade of picks and the best prospects on a rookie deal on our team.

Hartenstein at Mid level exception money is exactly what you want. A high-level backup who ends up being nearly interchangeable with the starter. Just great value at that league average contract for 2 years. The mid level essentially brings a neutral impact player and the Knicks nailed this.

Josh Hart for a late first rounder and contract filler is just highway robbery. Think about how Chicago was asking 2 1sts for Caruso. How Derrick white cost Boston a 2022 1st plus a 2028 pick swap. That’s a long ways away. This is what this level of player costs. Hart has been that and more at a value price.

On the other hand, teams like Cleveland and Phoenix who move heaven and earth for their star acquisitions but are left with a thin rotation and bare cupboard of assets to improve don’t have the same opportunities to improve as the Knicks, because the Knicks got these 3 high level impact players for pretty much nothing.

With what we have gotten from Hart, it’s much better value than the cost of someone like Anunoby. It’s like getting 90% the value at 25% the cost. All of this is essentially saying that getting a star is nice, but getting more guys the way the Knicks got Brunson, Hart and Hartenstein is just as important in order to win a title. We can win big with more acquisitions like these guys. Great work Knicks front office. The future is bright!

gradyandrew @ 5/6/2023 5:05 AM
I think it all starts with nailing draft picks. Starting with Robinson Knicks have added him RJ IQ Obi McBride Sims and Grimes. Getting into the playoffs has been great for evaluating IQ and Obi before they are available for extensions. The numbers for IQ will be a lot more realistic than they were a month ago. The new CBA seems very unfriendly to super teams and teams over the second apron.

Hitting on valuable players in the draft also makes it easier to send out picks. I'm a firm believer that too many players on rookie deals leads to diminishing returns. With guys thirsty for playing time across the board, s rookie player will struggle for playing

franco12 @ 5/6/2023 6:08 AM
Kinda think Leon Rose should have been Exec of Year. His moves have been brilliant and his drafts spectacular for where we have picked. I think media dinged him because he is not out there meeting with the media.
Knixkik @ 5/6/2023 7:58 AM
gradyandrew wrote:I think it all starts with nailing draft picks. Starting with Robinson Knicks have added him RJ IQ Obi McBride Sims and Grimes. Getting into the playoffs has been great for evaluating IQ and Obi before they are available for extensions. The numbers for IQ will be a lot more realistic than they were a month ago. The new CBA seems very unfriendly to super teams and teams over the second apron.

Hitting on valuable players in the draft also makes it easier to send out picks. I'm a firm believer that too many players on rookie deals leads to diminishing returns. With guys thirsty for playing time across the board, s rookie player will struggle for playing

Agreed about the draft picks. It’s extremely important to hit them. My point was the 3 players the Knicks acquired this year changed their fortunes. Getting Brunson was like hitting on a top 5 pick. The cost was nothing. And to me I feel like when the Knicks added Hart they went from just a playoff team to where they are now, capable of winning series. It’s like as if Knicks signed Allan Houston and traded for Sprewell in the same season.

martin @ 5/6/2023 10:09 AM
franco12 wrote:Kinda think Leon Rose should have been Exec of Year. His moves have been brilliant and his drafts spectacular for where we have picked. I think media dinged him because he is not out there meeting with the media.

Don’t think media voted, just other execs?

gradyandrew @ 5/6/2023 12:08 PM
Knixkik wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I think it all starts with nailing draft picks. Starting with Robinson Knicks have added him RJ IQ Obi McBride Sims and Grimes. Getting into the playoffs has been great for evaluating IQ and Obi before they are available for extensions. The numbers for IQ will be a lot more realistic than they were a month ago. The new CBA seems very unfriendly to super teams and teams over the second apron.

Hitting on valuable players in the draft also makes it easier to send out picks. I'm a firm believer that too many players on rookie deals leads to diminishing returns. With guys thirsty for playing time across the board, s rookie player will struggle for playing

Agreed about the draft picks. It’s extremely important to hit them. My point was the 3 players the Knicks acquired this year changed their fortunes. Getting Brunson was like hitting on a top 5 pick. The cost was nothing. And to me I feel like when the Knicks added Hart they went from just a playoff team to where they are now, capable of winning series. It’s like as if Knicks signed Allan Houston and traded for Sprewell in the same season.

Word. They identified last season's weaknesses and corrected them and got Josh to fill a roll.

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