Knicks · [Game Thread 5/12/23] 2nd Round DO OR DIE Game 6 at Heat - 7:30PM - ESPN (page 19)
Nalod wrote:Heard this on the Lowe POst and had to look it up.
"Miami last year {2021-22] was a top shooting 3pt team"..........
I did. They were 3rd. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/th...
They basically ran that team back.
Many of us were frustrated as they did not shoot well during the season and we think its "Man, knicks suck, we letting a bad team shoot good!!!!"
Fact is they used the regular season as "preseason". Sneaky fuckers!
Also noted: Miami shot 45% from 3 against Milwaukee, 31% against the Knicks and 51% against Boston in their only game so far.
We can obviously conclude that Thibs is the only coach so far that knows how to get his team to defend the 3point line appropriately.
thta said, if they had herro playing, i'm sure the stats would be better for them.
We did a decent job on D, but missed shots and our non-top-3 did not contribute much, whereas theirs did
martin wrote:Nalod wrote:Heard this on the Lowe POst and had to look it up.
"Miami last year {2021-22] was a top shooting 3pt team"..........
I did. They were 3rd. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/th...
They basically ran that team back.
Many of us were frustrated as they did not shoot well during the season and we think its "Man, knicks suck, we letting a bad team shoot good!!!!"
Fact is they used the regular season as "preseason". Sneaky fuckers!Also noted: Miami shot 45% from 3 against Milwaukee, 31% against the Knicks and 51% against Boston in their only game so far.
We can obviously conclude that Thibs is the only coach so far that knows how to get his team to defend the 3point line appropriately.
I thought we suck at defending the three? Remember?
Nalod wrote:martin wrote:Nalod wrote:Heard this on the Lowe POst and had to look it up.
"Miami last year {2021-22] was a top shooting 3pt team"..........
I did. They were 3rd. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/th...
They basically ran that team back.
Many of us were frustrated as they did not shoot well during the season and we think its "Man, knicks suck, we letting a bad team shoot good!!!!"
Fact is they used the regular season as "preseason". Sneaky fuckers!Also noted: Miami shot 45% from 3 against Milwaukee, 31% against the Knicks and 51% against Boston in their only game so far.
We can obviously conclude that Thibs is the only coach so far that knows how to get his team to defend the 3point line appropriately.
I thought we suck at defending the three? Remember?
Defending the three was never the problem (although allowing D-Leaguers to hit timely 3's was definately a weakness). The fact that they were countering 3's with 2's was the issue and the 3's they did take went in at 27% (Miami best 3 pt defensive team ever!). If Grimes and IQ and Randle played the way they did during the season, series goes to 7 games with, I think, a higher than 50/50 chance that the Knicks win the series.
Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:VDesai wrote:Man, its pointless but I keep replaying that Brunson turnover player over and over in my head. Gabe Vincent reads Randle's cut well- he could have been called for a foul there, but I think Brunson's plan was to draw the double and leave it off for Randle in the paint where he has a decent and one opportunity, but Vincent really cuts him off.Hart could have shaded over better towards Brunson. I definitely would have been happy with him shooting a 3 there. He wasn't shooting well this series, but he made plenty of clutch late 3's in his short time with the team.
Anyway not hating on Jalen at all, who was superhuman when our backs were against the wall. Just a total superstar performance. I bet you he will take this mistake and use it as his own motivation to come back even better next year. Was just his first year here and his first year as a full time go to player. I believe he will be even better than what we saw this year.
Spo’s strategy against Brunson by having two on ball defenders with him will be copied a lot next year. We need a Center who can actually hit a jump shot that’s the only way you counter that and keep defenses honest
LOL, PhilC offering "That's the only way" for Thibs. That's comedy from mr "conspiracy".
Grimes was a PG in high school. His handles should be good enough to help get the ball up. Hell, he should be able to initiate the initial movement of the offense within a pass or 2 of getting it to Brunson to really drive the offenseive set.
joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:VDesai wrote:Man, its pointless but I keep replaying that Brunson turnover player over and over in my head. Gabe Vincent reads Randle's cut well- he could have been called for a foul there, but I think Brunson's plan was to draw the double and leave it off for Randle in the paint where he has a decent and one opportunity, but Vincent really cuts him off.Hart could have shaded over better towards Brunson. I definitely would have been happy with him shooting a 3 there. He wasn't shooting well this series, but he made plenty of clutch late 3's in his short time with the team.
Anyway not hating on Jalen at all, who was superhuman when our backs were against the wall. Just a total superstar performance. I bet you he will take this mistake and use it as his own motivation to come back even better next year. Was just his first year here and his first year as a full time go to player. I believe he will be even better than what we saw this year.
Spo’s strategy against Brunson by having two on ball defenders with him will be copied a lot next year. We need a Center who can actually hit a jump shot that’s the only way you counter that and keep defenses honest
LOL, PhilC offering "That's the only way" for Thibs. That's comedy from mr "conspiracy".
Grimes was a PG in high school. His handles should be good enough to help get the ball up. Hell, he should be able to initiate the initial movement of the offense within a pass or 2 of getting it to Brunson to really drive the offenseive set.
Do t think it works that way.
joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:VDesai wrote:Man, its pointless but I keep replaying that Brunson turnover player over and over in my head. Gabe Vincent reads Randle's cut well- he could have been called for a foul there, but I think Brunson's plan was to draw the double and leave it off for Randle in the paint where he has a decent and one opportunity, but Vincent really cuts him off.Hart could have shaded over better towards Brunson. I definitely would have been happy with him shooting a 3 there. He wasn't shooting well this series, but he made plenty of clutch late 3's in his short time with the team.
Anyway not hating on Jalen at all, who was superhuman when our backs were against the wall. Just a total superstar performance. I bet you he will take this mistake and use it as his own motivation to come back even better next year. Was just his first year here and his first year as a full time go to player. I believe he will be even better than what we saw this year.
Spo’s strategy against Brunson by having two on ball defenders with him will be copied a lot next year. We need a Center who can actually hit a jump shot that’s the only way you counter that and keep defenses honest
LOL, PhilC offering "That's the only way" for Thibs. That's comedy from mr "conspiracy".
Grimes was a PG in high school. His handles should be good enough to help get the ball up. Hell, he should be able to initiate the initial movement of the offense within a pass or 2 of getting it to Brunson to really drive the offenseive set.
I think Grime's draft scouting reports listed a lack of concentration with ball at times. We saw that a couple of times this season with boneheaded plays. I think it's something that can be improved upon with more reps tho. But I think Grimes will be more of help on offense when he starts hitting thees at a higher clip.
martin wrote:joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:VDesai wrote:Man, its pointless but I keep replaying that Brunson turnover player over and over in my head. Gabe Vincent reads Randle's cut well- he could have been called for a foul there, but I think Brunson's plan was to draw the double and leave it off for Randle in the paint where he has a decent and one opportunity, but Vincent really cuts him off.Hart could have shaded over better towards Brunson. I definitely would have been happy with him shooting a 3 there. He wasn't shooting well this series, but he made plenty of clutch late 3's in his short time with the team.
Anyway not hating on Jalen at all, who was superhuman when our backs were against the wall. Just a total superstar performance. I bet you he will take this mistake and use it as his own motivation to come back even better next year. Was just his first year here and his first year as a full time go to player. I believe he will be even better than what we saw this year.
Spo’s strategy against Brunson by having two on ball defenders with him will be copied a lot next year. We need a Center who can actually hit a jump shot that’s the only way you counter that and keep defenses honest
LOL, PhilC offering "That's the only way" for Thibs. That's comedy from mr "conspiracy".
Grimes was a PG in high school. His handles should be good enough to help get the ball up. Hell, he should be able to initiate the initial movement of the offense within a pass or 2 of getting it to Brunson to really drive the offenseive set.
Do t think it works that way.
I was trying to get at he has to have a modicum of ball handling skills to get the ball up court and there are better ways to get the ball to Brunson to operate then letting him get trapped by two players. Teams run 2 PG sets all the time, this would be like running a PG and a half. You want to put regular season Quickley in that SG spot instead of Grimes-wow has his star fallen-I'm good with that too.
BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:VDesai wrote:Man, its pointless but I keep replaying that Brunson turnover player over and over in my head. Gabe Vincent reads Randle's cut well- he could have been called for a foul there, but I think Brunson's plan was to draw the double and leave it off for Randle in the paint where he has a decent and one opportunity, but Vincent really cuts him off.Hart could have shaded over better towards Brunson. I definitely would have been happy with him shooting a 3 there. He wasn't shooting well this series, but he made plenty of clutch late 3's in his short time with the team.
Anyway not hating on Jalen at all, who was superhuman when our backs were against the wall. Just a total superstar performance. I bet you he will take this mistake and use it as his own motivation to come back even better next year. Was just his first year here and his first year as a full time go to player. I believe he will be even better than what we saw this year.
Spo’s strategy against Brunson by having two on ball defenders with him will be copied a lot next year. We need a Center who can actually hit a jump shot that’s the only way you counter that and keep defenses honest
LOL, PhilC offering "That's the only way" for Thibs. That's comedy from mr "conspiracy".
Grimes was a PG in high school. His handles should be good enough to help get the ball up. Hell, he should be able to initiate the initial movement of the offense within a pass or 2 of getting it to Brunson to really drive the offenseive set.
I think Grime's draft scouting reports listed a lack of concentration with ball at times. We saw that a couple of times this season with boneheaded plays. I think it's something that can be improved upon with more reps tho. But I think Grimes will be more of help on offense when he starts hitting thees at a higher clip.
100%. That was my biggest gripe with him, and the high expectations everyone had for him. The kid's a dog. But it's like a easily distracted but well meaning dog on crack. He seems coachable though, so I think he can work through it.
joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:VDesai wrote:Man, its pointless but I keep replaying that Brunson turnover player over and over in my head. Gabe Vincent reads Randle's cut well- he could have been called for a foul there, but I think Brunson's plan was to draw the double and leave it off for Randle in the paint where he has a decent and one opportunity, but Vincent really cuts him off.Hart could have shaded over better towards Brunson. I definitely would have been happy with him shooting a 3 there. He wasn't shooting well this series, but he made plenty of clutch late 3's in his short time with the team.
Anyway not hating on Jalen at all, who was superhuman when our backs were against the wall. Just a total superstar performance. I bet you he will take this mistake and use it as his own motivation to come back even better next year. Was just his first year here and his first year as a full time go to player. I believe he will be even better than what we saw this year.
Spo’s strategy against Brunson by having two on ball defenders with him will be copied a lot next year. We need a Center who can actually hit a jump shot that’s the only way you counter that and keep defenses honest
LOL, PhilC offering "That's the only way" for Thibs. That's comedy from mr "conspiracy".
Grimes was a PG in high school. His handles should be good enough to help get the ball up. Hell, he should be able to initiate the initial movement of the offense within a pass or 2 of getting it to Brunson to really drive the offenseive set.
I think Grime's draft scouting reports listed a lack of concentration with ball at times. We saw that a couple of times this season with boneheaded plays. I think it's something that can be improved upon with more reps tho. But I think Grimes will be more of help on offense when he starts hitting thees at a higher clip.
100%. That was my biggest gripe with him, and the high expectations everyone had for him. The kid's a dog. But it's like a easily distracted but well meaning dog on crack. He seems coachable though, so I think he can work through it.
More weed less coke
martin wrote:joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:VDesai wrote:Man, its pointless but I keep replaying that Brunson turnover player over and over in my head. Gabe Vincent reads Randle's cut well- he could have been called for a foul there, but I think Brunson's plan was to draw the double and leave it off for Randle in the paint where he has a decent and one opportunity, but Vincent really cuts him off.Hart could have shaded over better towards Brunson. I definitely would have been happy with him shooting a 3 there. He wasn't shooting well this series, but he made plenty of clutch late 3's in his short time with the team.
Anyway not hating on Jalen at all, who was superhuman when our backs were against the wall. Just a total superstar performance. I bet you he will take this mistake and use it as his own motivation to come back even better next year. Was just his first year here and his first year as a full time go to player. I believe he will be even better than what we saw this year.
Spo’s strategy against Brunson by having two on ball defenders with him will be copied a lot next year. We need a Center who can actually hit a jump shot that’s the only way you counter that and keep defenses honest
LOL, PhilC offering "That's the only way" for Thibs. That's comedy from mr "conspiracy".
Grimes was a PG in high school. His handles should be good enough to help get the ball up. Hell, he should be able to initiate the initial movement of the offense within a pass or 2 of getting it to Brunson to really drive the offenseive set.
I think Grime's draft scouting reports listed a lack of concentration with ball at times. We saw that a couple of times this season with boneheaded plays. I think it's something that can be improved upon with more reps tho. But I think Grimes will be more of help on offense when he starts hitting thees at a higher clip.
100%. That was my biggest gripe with him, and the high expectations everyone had for him. The kid's a dog. But it's like a easily distracted but well meaning dog on crack. He seems coachable though, so I think he can work through it.
More weed less coke
You may have stumbled on to a very effective life philosophy there.