gradyandrew wrote:Now that the Heat have secured home court advantage in the conference Finals, does that change the narrative that NY needs to make major changes?
So we should not try to get better. Mind blown
ramtour420 wrote:ESOMKnicks wrote:Rooting for another team but the Knicks is a blasphemy I'm my book. Kinda like going out on a date while your wife is away in a hospital or on a long term business trip. But I am okay with rooting for good fun bball. So far, looks like both ongoing series will deliver it. My sympathies are with Denver, they have cool fun players and are the only team I have no negative feelings about, so will be content if they win the whole thing. Won't be happy about yet another Bos, Mia or Lal chip.
+1 , definitely Nuggets out of all of them.I too would fancy Jokic winning a chip. His game is just so pure, so basketball. A team that passes should win. Unless it's the Heat, they can suck it
Rooting for Denver too. The other fanbases left in the playoffs have had more than their fair share
I would rather go through another Isiah Thomas/Phil Jackson/Steve Mills years than see the cHeat win another ring!
Philc1 wrote:gradyandrew wrote:Now that the Heat have secured home court advantage in the conference Finals, does that change the narrative that NY needs to make major changes?
So we should not try to get better. Mind blown
Hold on to your hat Phil cuz I'm gonna drop an h bomb on your dome. Most young NBA players improve with experience.
SergioNYK wrote:I would rather go through another Isiah Thomas/Phil Jackson/Steve Mills years than see the cHeat win another ring! ![](/images/forum/icon_smile_dead.gif)
Whoa, that's some real hate!!! Impressive 🤩
Philc1 wrote:gradyandrew wrote:Now that the Heat have secured home court advantage in the conference Finals, does that change the narrative that NY needs to make majorchanges?
So we should not try to get better. Mind blown
Heat did a good job with their minor additions, nothing major. Now they have an established nba star in Jimmy buckets, so that helps.
I hope the trade Randle/ trade RJ crowd is paying attention to this series. After Knicks Game 3 debacle, I thought we played the presumptive Eastern Conference champions Miami Heat well over the final 3 games. The only series it's seems like the Heat have struggled in is vs. NY.
I will add that I'm broadly in favor of a KAT trade for a few reasons.
1. He's a true number one pick talent. He's got size and shooting.
2. Lots of familiarity with the team and organization. His dad worked for the Knicks (I think?). He and Randle are buddies going back to college and off season collaboration. Thibs coached KAT for 2.5 seasons in Minnesota.
3. KAT is proven All-Star/ All-NBA talent
4. He's got one year left on a relatively cheap 30 million before his contract balloons to 50. Minnesota is tapped out of draft picks to improve. Trading D-Lo for Conley, after giving up Wiggins seems like KAT is no longer the center piece of that organization.Maybe he can be had for relatively cheap.
No team can match Bam Adebayo. Miami has no offensive weak links. Two stars and 6-7 pure fluid shooters--both stars great passers with high iq. You can beat the heat with a mediocre center not happening.
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Close DISLIKE ro both CELTS and HEAT
especially Boston, for me I go way back to Celts Cowens, Havlichek Jojo battles against Reed, Clyde , Dave D and Coach holztman teams
However I am going out norm stating
I have problem LESS with HEAT winning than CELTICs
Sorry Celtics with their mega NBA titles.
Let Miami's Heat Win & bust Celtics as_sses
BRIGGS wrote:No team can match Bam Adebayo. Miami has no offensive weak links. Two stars and 6-7 pure fluid shooters--both stars great passers with high iq. You can beat the heat with a mediocre center not happening.
Grant Williams has been a Bam stopper going back to their high school days in North Carolina. Grant winning that matchup was the major reason the Celtics advanced last year. Mazzula isn't a believer and kept Grant on the bench a lot of the season and all of game one. Tonight, Heat got Grant to switch onto Butler then isolated him on the wing down the stretch. Boston has great defenders in Tatum Brown and Smart yet somehow they let ground bound Grant be the one to save the season. I think the issue is coaching.
gradyandrew wrote:BRIGGS wrote:No team can match Bam Adebayo. Miami has no offensive weak links. Two stars and 6-7 pure fluid shooters--both stars great passers with high iq. You can beat the heat with a mediocre center not happening.
Grant Williams has been a Bam stopper going back to their high school days in North Carolina. Grant winning that matchup was the major reason the Celtics advanced last year. Mazzula isn't a believer and kept Grant on the bench a lot of the season and all of game one. Tonight, Heat got Grant to switch onto Butler then isolated him on the wing down the stretch. Boston has great defenders in Tatum Brown and Smart yet somehow they let ground bound Grant be the one to save the season. I think the issue is coaching.
Mazulla is a clown. He should not be coaching even a high school team.
The Knicks were not down 0:2 to Miami after two home games. So, we can pat ourselves on the back for being better than mighty Boston.
It was once pointed out to me you pull for the team that eliminated you - if you’re going to lose it might as well be to the champs.
KnickDanger wrote:It was once pointed out to me you pull for the team that eliminated you - if you’re going to lose it might as well be to the champs.
Yep, that definitely makes sense. The only exception being the Heat.
I don’t like either of the teams. I don’t care who come out of the ECF as long as Denver wins. And f’ the Lakers too. Ever seen a team get gifts like that. They (NBA) built them a new team mid season. Mind boggling how the NBA pushes narratives. And you knew Spurs would get the number one pick. All you have to be is a small market and they get what they want.
Vmart wrote:I don’t like either of the teams. I don’t care who come out of the ECF as long as Denver wins. And f’ the Lakers too. Ever seen a team get gifts like that. They (NBA) built them a new team mid season. Mind boggling how the NBA pushes narratives. And you knew Spurs would get the number one pick. All you have to be is a small market and they get what they want.
Some strong Monday Night Raw vibes on those Lakers trades.
Damn. This is getting "blow up the team and fire the coach" bad.
What were those Udoka texts? Bad enough for Boston to fire, but not so bad Rockets don't hire? C's maybe need to start looking at trades for Dame.
gradyandrew wrote:Damn. This is getting "blow up the team and fire the coach" bad.What were those Udoka texts? Bad enough for Boston to fire, but not so bad Rockets don't hire? C's maybe need to start looking at trades for Dame.
I don't know what they were back then but he did just tweet out "How's it goink?"
It's time to give the Heat credit. After beating the Bucks in 5, the Knicks 6 and being 1 game away from sweeping the Celtics, we have to say the Heat are very good.
Ira wrote:It's time to give the Heat credit. After beating the Bucks in 5, the Knicks 6 and being 1 game away from sweeping the Celtics, we have to say the Heat are very good.
Welcome to the party. I look at it as the Knicks being really good as well.It definitely seemed in game one that the team and MS garden crowd were playing afraid, but by Game 4 they found some level of confidence. Knicks never looked mentally defeated outside of Game 3. I hope that this is a strong sign to the front office not to make any drastic moves.
Fans react to the last thing. Front office is also looking at what we did right as well.
And the Heat taking teams apart is no fluke.
Mazzulla is being taken to the woodshed by Spo and I can imagine Celtic fans want him gone. Well he was kind of young and inexperienced going into this was he not? Their offense is very iso centric.
Maybe Heat last year should have won and gone to the finals?
They doing this all without Herro who very much could be traded after this season?
Teams just steam rolling thru these Conf. Finals!
Philc1 wrote:gradyandrew wrote:Now that the Heat have secured home court advantage in the conference Finals, does that change the narrative that NY needs to make major changes?
So we should not try to get better. Mind blown
Don’t take much to blow your mind?
Grady said “major chnages”.
The Narrative was “Knicks gave heat more push back than Milwaukee or Boston”.