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Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up Leon
I'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
I'd be content if the only move Leon made was to resign Hart and brings back the exact same team we closed out the year with. I think we've already got momentum in the right direction, another offseason for the young guys to improve. I'm not interested in making moves just to make a splash.
But it's starting to look like something happens with Obi this summer.
MaTT4281 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
I'd be content if the only move Leon made was to resign Hart and brings back the exact same team we closed out the year with. I think we've already got momentum in the right direction, another offseason for the young guys to improve. I'm not interested in making moves just to make a splash.
But it's starting to look like something happens with Obi this summer.
If this is the squad we have next season, we will be lucky to make it out of the first round. Elite teams in the East arent running it back. We shouldnt either.
I'd be pissed if our superagent team president cant manage any big moves in the offseason. A second round exit is not a good reason to pump the brakes.
Brunson puts his body on the line like few starting PGs in the league. I want to see the FO make the most of Brunson's time in NY, while he's healthy. I would consider running it back the worst option.
Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up Leon
Yup
and select Vukcevic. This kid is 7'0 shoots 40% from 3.
Can be used as 4 or 5 and replace Obi.
GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
GustavBahler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
No they didn't. That's just a Agency thing. CAA and Rich Paul.
A better UFA just came to the Knicks in Brunson. All your points are moot if the standard is a star coming to NY.
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
No they didn't. That's just a Agency thing. CAA and Rich Paul.
A better UFA just came to the Knicks in Brunson. All your points are moot if the standard is a star coming to NY.
This report just came out today, current events, nothing to do with Brunson.If Lavine wanted to be a Knick, none of that CAA stuff would matter. Its Lavine's call, they work for him.
Knicks have a reputation for favoring CAA clients going back more than a decade. Works out great for CAA, Not so great for Knicks fans. Unless Leon has more Godsons with an All-Star game. Where are the elite CAA clients? Whats the point of having these ties?
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
No they didn't. That's just a Agency thing. CAA and Rich Paul.
A better UFA just came to the Knicks in Brunson. All your points are moot if the standard is a star coming to NY.
This report just came out today, current events, nothing to do with Brunson.If Lavine wanted to be a Knick, none of that CAA stuff would matter. Its Lavine's call, they work for him.
Knicks have a reputation for favoring CAA clients going back more than a decade. Works out great for CAA, Not so great for Knicks fans. Unless Leon has more Godsons with an All-Star game. Where are the elite CAA clients? Whats the point of having these ties?
Knicks just got THE BEST UFA in god knows how long because of their CAA connections. What else are you waiting on or even talking about or what is your point? That's like they should be getting a star a year?
LaVine didn't push to go to the Knicks? That's your basis? Leon checked out his contract, his knees, and the fact that that bro has exactly 1 playoff win in his career and doesn't openly pant about not being about to trade for him?
You expecting Paul George, who is under contract with his current team to openly announce he wants to play for the Knicks? Is that how this works?
VDesai wrote:No cap space, gonna need to let Bruce Brown walk. They have roster room so they can/need draft picks to fill out the roster.
This Briggs
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
No they didn't. That's just a Agency thing. CAA and Rich Paul.
A better UFA just came to the Knicks in Brunson. All your points are moot if the standard is a star coming to NY.
This report just came out today, current events, nothing to do with Brunson.If Lavine wanted to be a Knick, none of that CAA stuff would matter. Its Lavine's call, they work for him.
Knicks have a reputation for favoring CAA clients going back more than a decade. Works out great for CAA, Not so great for Knicks fans. Unless Leon has more Godsons with an All-Star game. Where are the elite CAA clients? Whats the point of having these ties?
Knicks just got THE BEST UFA in god knows how long because of their CAA connections. What else are you waiting on or even talking about or what is your point? That's like they should be getting a star a year?
LaVine didn't push to go to the Knicks? That's your basis? Leon checked out his contract, his knees, and the fact that that bro has exactly 1 playoff win in his career and doesn't openly pant about not being about to trade for him?
You expecting Paul George, who is under contract with his current team to openly announce he wants to play for the Knicks? Is that how this works?
The Knicks were interested in Lavine. Lavine doesnt want to go the Knicks. Makes it clear to mgmt, no trade.
We got Brunson because of Rose's friendship with the Brunson's, not CAA ties.
We dont know what sunk the PG-13 talks, maybe it was PG. Wouldnt surprise me.
My point remains that for more than a decade the Knicks have been very cozy with CAA, and that access has been mostly benefiting the talent agency, the talent, not the Knicks.
Why be so close with an agency, if they cant deliver the players to win it all? At some point Leon's CAA connections need to pay off. Going into year 4.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
No they didn't. That's just a Agency thing. CAA and Rich Paul.
A better UFA just came to the Knicks in Brunson. All your points are moot if the standard is a star coming to NY.
This report just came out today, current events, nothing to do with Brunson.If Lavine wanted to be a Knick, none of that CAA stuff would matter. Its Lavine's call, they work for him.
Knicks have a reputation for favoring CAA clients going back more than a decade. Works out great for CAA, Not so great for Knicks fans. Unless Leon has more Godsons with an All-Star game. Where are the elite CAA clients? Whats the point of having these ties?
Knicks just got THE BEST UFA in god knows how long because of their CAA connections. What else are you waiting on or even talking about or what is your point? That's like they should be getting a star a year?
LaVine didn't push to go to the Knicks? That's your basis? Leon checked out his contract, his knees, and the fact that that bro has exactly 1 playoff win in his career and doesn't openly pant about not being about to trade for him?
You expecting Paul George, who is under contract with his current team to openly announce he wants to play for the Knicks? Is that how this works?
The Knicks were interested in Lavine. Lavine doesnt want to go the Knicks. Makes it clear to mgmt, no trade.
We got Brunson because of Rose's friendship with the Brunson's, not CAA ties.
We dont know what sunk the PG-13 talks, maybe it was PG. Wouldnt surprise me.
My point remains that for more than a decade the Knicks have been very cozy with CAA, and that access has been mostly benefiting the talent agency, the talent, not the Knicks.
Why be so close with an agency, if they cant deliver the players to win it all? At some point Leon's CAA connections need to pay off. Going into year 4.
You make a lot of stuff up to suit yourself. Have at it.
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
No they didn't. That's just a Agency thing. CAA and Rich Paul.
A better UFA just came to the Knicks in Brunson. All your points are moot if the standard is a star coming to NY.
This report just came out today, current events, nothing to do with Brunson.If Lavine wanted to be a Knick, none of that CAA stuff would matter. Its Lavine's call, they work for him.
Knicks have a reputation for favoring CAA clients going back more than a decade. Works out great for CAA, Not so great for Knicks fans. Unless Leon has more Godsons with an All-Star game. Where are the elite CAA clients? Whats the point of having these ties?
Knicks just got THE BEST UFA in god knows how long because of their CAA connections. What else are you waiting on or even talking about or what is your point? That's like they should be getting a star a year?
LaVine didn't push to go to the Knicks? That's your basis? Leon checked out his contract, his knees, and the fact that that bro has exactly 1 playoff win in his career and doesn't openly pant about not being about to trade for him?
You expecting Paul George, who is under contract with his current team to openly announce he wants to play for the Knicks? Is that how this works?
The Knicks were interested in Lavine. Lavine doesnt want to go the Knicks. Makes it clear to mgmt, no trade.
We got Brunson because of Rose's friendship with the Brunson's, not CAA ties.
We dont know what sunk the PG-13 talks, maybe it was PG. Wouldnt surprise me.
My point remains that for more than a decade the Knicks have been very cozy with CAA, and that access has been mostly benefiting the talent agency, the talent, not the Knicks.
Why be so close with an agency, if they cant deliver the players to win it all? At some point Leon's CAA connections need to pay off. Going into year 4.
You make a lot of stuff up to suit yourself. Have at it.
At some point in the discussion, you always get pissy Martin. Cant just agree to disagree.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Wake up LeonI'm more concerned about keeping up with teams in the East who were already better than us, and looking to add more impact players. Not making any big moves in the offseason will be concerning because better teams in the East arent running it back.
There is recent report that Leon offered Randle and 2 picks this season for Ayton, but was turned down. Tried to sign DM, but they wanted the moon. The FO apparently made a play for Beal as well. Maybe Lavine and KAT too.
Looks like Leon has been trying to upgrade the roster. We dont fully know who the FO has been targeting. But maybe they should cast a wider net. Trying for some of these stars, and their history of missing a lot of games, shows they arent risk averse.
I just want to Know he is going to make meaningful move. He doesn't have to get a draft pick for me to be happy or make a block buster trade. Some smart moves with upside is ok. I'm interested in Watanabe, Niang, and some other players to add shooting. As long as RJ and Hart ehoot league average from 3 and Grimes get 15 shots a night we will improve
Agree in hoping the FO makes a deal(s) that move the needle. We talk about stars in their prime not wanting to go to the Knicks in free agency. But it also might be a problem with stars not wanting to be traded to NY. They might not have an NTC, but stars often get a say in where they're shipped these days. That seems different from other eras. Maybe because of the money involved.
CP3 lost his leverage when he lost his step. It might be a double whammy of stars in their prime not wanting to sign or be traded to NY. Not enough of a talent pool anyway. The same names always seem to pop up. Im guessing the pressure has a lot to do with it.
Why I'm hoping Leon at least has a conversation with the Pelicans about Zion. Seems very eager for the bright lights of MSG. Hopefully not too eager for the many choices for fine dining in NY! Worth the risk IMO.
Lavine's camp just made my point. Stars are reluctant to play in NY. Dame apparently put the Nets ahead of the Knicks on his wish list. Maybe PG-13 wasnt interested as well.
I dont believe stars are rushing to play for Thibs either.
The two names floating out there PG-13 and Lavine. Two older, often injured players. But they arent making a run at 22 year old Zion?
Still plenty of time for the FO to make moves. The names mentioned so far are the same kind of names we were hearing in the quick fix days. Hope the new GM has some good ideas. Not dreams of retreads
No they didn't. That's just a Agency thing. CAA and Rich Paul.
A better UFA just came to the Knicks in Brunson. All your points are moot if the standard is a star coming to NY.
This report just came out today, current events, nothing to do with Brunson.If Lavine wanted to be a Knick, none of that CAA stuff would matter. Its Lavine's call, they work for him.
Knicks have a reputation for favoring CAA clients going back more than a decade. Works out great for CAA, Not so great for Knicks fans. Unless Leon has more Godsons with an All-Star game. Where are the elite CAA clients? Whats the point of having these ties?
Knicks just got THE BEST UFA in god knows how long because of their CAA connections. What else are you waiting on or even talking about or what is your point? That's like they should be getting a star a year?
LaVine didn't push to go to the Knicks? That's your basis? Leon checked out his contract, his knees, and the fact that that bro has exactly 1 playoff win in his career and doesn't openly pant about not being about to trade for him?
You expecting Paul George, who is under contract with his current team to openly announce he wants to play for the Knicks? Is that how this works?
The Knicks were interested in Lavine. Lavine doesnt want to go the Knicks. Makes it clear to mgmt, no trade.
We got Brunson because of Rose's friendship with the Brunson's, not CAA ties.
We dont know what sunk the PG-13 talks, maybe it was PG. Wouldnt surprise me.
My point remains that for more than a decade the Knicks have been very cozy with CAA, and that access has been mostly benefiting the talent agency, the talent, not the Knicks.
Why be so close with an agency, if they cant deliver the players to win it all? At some point Leon's CAA connections need to pay off. Going into year 4.
You make a lot of stuff up to suit yourself. Have at it.
At some point in the discussion, you always get pissy Martin. Cant just agree to disagree.
Because the bar of reality is so low, it should be better.