Knicks · 2024 draft thread/Summer Offseason (page 17)

Nalod @ 5/16/2024 2:26 PM
blkexec wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:i wouldn't take Bronny unless it was a package deal with Lebron.

we need those picks to replenish cheap youth.

Hoping Da Silva is there for us, he's such a perfect fit here IMO

What’s interesting is some WOULD NOT take Bronny because of the pressure to add Lebron in a package deal.

I know a lot of Laker fans who can’t wait for Lebron to leave. Rumor is he’s not good for in game youth development because he holds the ball and controls the offense too much. I think with JB on the team, that’s not an issue for him. And I trust Thibs coaching which would reduce Lebrons control tendencies.

Its a low probability at best but as said, he comes to be with Thibs, not push against him.
If he wants to be paid it won't fit.
Lebron takes over when others are not. 21 years he is not just one type of player. He has demonstrated many facets both amazing, and some that are not so great.
The diva, the back stab, the roster thing all true. But not every year, not every team, and not every coach. In some cases he was correct. He was younger when he went to heat and lost in finals to Dallas. It was in part on him. He wanted RIley to coach. Not a bad idea really. But Riley was rigid and said now. They won next two. Lebron left Riley and heat which was correct. Bosh had blood disorder and Wade declined. Dave Blatt was bought into rebuild with Kyrie. Instead he gets Lebron. Blatt took them to finals still. But Lebron was right to move him out. Im not saying Lebron was never out of line. He was. The decision was an awful one. He carried the cavs on his back and young lebron forced Cavs to short term trades. Give him credit for going back after he and Dan Gilbert Burned bridges.

Bron to Knicks? I extend Thibs first. Lebron is not stupid and it would be up to him to sell his vision and what he wants. Maybe Leon with Thibs are down for that. If not, think him for his consideration and move on. I think Randle is moved. Poor guy, twice he gets jettisoned for Lebron! Im not sweating this because its low probability. Nalod really does not want this either.

Rob dillingham? These guys have to write shit and we read it so why not? He is 19. He is insurance for a Brunson injury, a dude off the bench with big upside?
If Leon and Co. have big conviction of this kid then why not. This is the kind of Draft you can move up on because its so not great. But that don't mean there are bad players here, in fact its an opportunity!!!!
If Toronto thinks it can grab some potential with more picks as they rebuild and stash then its a good deal for them.
Letter grade? Gonna take 3-4 years to sort that out.

nycericanguy @ 5/16/2024 5:20 PM
didnt even know we also had the #38 pick wow
BigDaddyG @ 5/19/2024 6:51 PM
Hello darkness my old friend...
BigDaddyG @ 5/19/2024 11:48 PM
It says a lot about this draft when Justice Winslow 2.0 feels like he can pull crap like this off.
Nalod @ 5/20/2024 8:51 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:It says a lot about this draft when Justice Winslow 2.0 feels like he can pull crap like this off.

His career choice. Long term might not be a stupid thing. He believes in himself and willing to drop a few spots and sacrifice some money to get a clear path to getting on the court.
Granted, it might not work out but thats his call.

BigDaddyG @ 5/20/2024 10:03 AM
Nalod wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:It says a lot about this draft when Justice Winslow 2.0 feels like he can pull crap like this off.

His career choice. Long term might not be a stupid thing. He believes in himself and willing to drop a few spots and sacrifice some money to get a clear path to getting on the court.
Granted, it might not work out but thats his call.

I don't blame his camp for trying this. My point is that it's debatable if this guy even makes into the lottery last year. This guy was a mid to late first-rounder for most of the season until one impressive game where his shot was falling. And I'm not just singling Castle out. You look at the scouting reports for most of the prospects in the lottery range and they scream "leap of faith."

martin @ 5/20/2024 12:09 PM
OK now I have perked up

martin @ 5/20/2024 2:12 PM
I'd def draft at #38 for Dunn

BigDaddyG @ 5/20/2024 2:58 PM
martin wrote:I'd def draft at #38 for Dunn

I'd say 38 is about right for him. Definitely a developmental guy. His shooting is so bad he makes Jacob Toppin look like Donte.

VDesai @ 5/20/2024 3:27 PM
Adem Bona looking good at the combines. Gives me upgraded Jericho Sims vibes
LivingLegend @ 5/20/2024 9:31 PM
martin wrote:I'd def draft at #38 for Dunn

That wingspan on Dunn an accurate number Martin?

blkexec @ 5/21/2024 6:15 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:I'd def draft at #38 for Dunn

That wingspan on Dunn an accurate number Martin?

Similar to wemby wingspan? Yeah I’m questioning that as well.

shinmen @ 5/21/2024 8:27 AM
blkexec wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:I'd def draft at #38 for Dunn

That wingspan on Dunn an accurate number Martin?

Similar to wemby wingspan? Yeah I’m questioning that as well.

https://www.si.com/college/virginia/ryan...
it's 7'1 and a half. There's a space missing

Knixkik @ 5/21/2024 1:35 PM
martin wrote:I'd def draft at #38 for Dunn

If the Knicks keep all of their picks I can see them going with a player at 24 they feel is most likely to contribute early in his career followed by a player like Dunn at 25, unless they are positive he lasts until 38. Just seems like the type of project they would be willing to take on because he is so elite on defense already. OG and Hart are 2 of the best players in the entire league he can learn from.

martin @ 5/22/2024 10:06 AM
newyorknewyork @ 5/22/2024 11:17 AM
Hunter Dickinson might be a nice ready made 4 year college player with 4 years of quality production for that #38 pick.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...

Seems like a fit for Thibs.

VDesai @ 5/22/2024 12:37 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...

New ESPN mock has us taking Tyler Smith and Kel'el Ware. Bobi Klintman goes one pick after. Would not be a bad outcome.

BigDaddyG @ 5/22/2024 1:46 PM
VDesai wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...

I like Clintman. But I think both him and Ware might be too soft for Thibs liking. I'm a big Smith fan and would love to bring him and give him G-League reps to learn NBA defensive schemes.
New ESPN mock has us taking Tyler Smith and Kel'el Ware. Bobi Klintman goes one pick after. Would not be a bad outcome.

24. New York Knicks (via Mavericks)
Tyler Smith, SF/PF, G League Ignite | Age: 19.5

It's unclear at this stage whether the Knicks will make both these picks or try to leverage them into improving the roster via other means, but this is an opportunity to shore up their depth as they try to sustain this season's success into the future. Smith made positive strides with G League Ignite and has the blueprint to develop into an effective floor-spacing forward, as well as enough size to hold his own on defense. That could be appealing to the Knicks, with a roster presently lacking for stretch bigs. -- Woo


25. New York Knicks
Kel'el Ware, C, Indiana | Age: 20.0

When healthy, the Knicks have strong depth and versatility at nearly every position and can afford to take a couple of swings on long-term upside if they decide to keep one or both of their first-round picks. Ware has tremendous physical ability with his size, length and mobility as well as his ability to stretch the floor and protect the rim in small doses. If he can buy into playing the type of toughness and intensity that Tom Thibodeau requires, he could be a steal in this part of the draft. -- Givony


26. Washington Wizards (via Clippers)
Bobi Klintman, SF/PF, Cairns (Australia) | Age: 21.2

Klintman has been a polarizing name for teams for the past couple seasons, but he supplies real size, shooting and skill potential at either forward spot. He's the type of project that might make sense for the Wizards, who are in a talent collection phase, and can afford to bet on upside at all stages of the draft. Consistency has been the issue for Klintman to this point in his career, as he can be selectively competitive and doesn't always harness his physical gifts as effectively as he could. There's palpable upside here for a team that trusts its player development and believes it can get more out of him, which might make him a worthy bet in the late first round. -- Woo

martin @ 5/22/2024 2:41 PM
newyorknewyork @ 5/23/2024 3:43 PM
If Bronny James puts in the work he can eventually grow into the next Deuce McBride.
BigDaddyG @ 5/23/2024 11:09 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:If Bronny James puts in the work he can eventually grow into the next Deuce McBride.

Don't know about that. Deuce was really good in college. I know Bronny had some extenuating circumstances, but he didn't show nearly as much as Deuce.

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