Knicks · 2024 draft thread/Summer Offseason (page 16)

Rookie @ 5/14/2024 4:50 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I've watched a drunk Fish and Panos run faster than this.And no, that is not a compliment for any of the parties involved.

Wait, which one was the drunk fish and which one was Panos?

martin @ 5/14/2024 7:17 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:The Wasserman mock has Devin Carter going 18.

Son of former Knick Anthony Carter is a combo PG/SG ~6'3" that avg. nearly 8 rebounds a game and is tenacious defender.

Small trade up from 24/25 and bring in Josh/Deuce 2.0 and add to the culture.

My dream draft right now is Devin Carter falling to #24, Nikola Djurisic #25, Ryan Dunn #38.

franco12 @ 5/14/2024 7:59 PM
Given that our picks are in the same place, and with our roster - I’m picking Bronny in the first round.

He may not be his dad, he may flame out. But I’ve always liked these 2nd gen kids that have grown up on the big stage, because they don’t have a problem playing in a big market like NY.

And if Lebron wants to come to NY - maybe we can do a S&T with Bogs & Mitch going out to create some space.

martin @ 5/15/2024 12:33 PM
nycericanguy @ 5/15/2024 1:34 PM
i wouldn't take Bronny unless it was a package deal with Lebron.

we need those picks to replenish cheap youth.

Hoping Da Silva is there for us, he's such a perfect fit here IMO

EwingsGlass @ 5/15/2024 2:09 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:The Wasserman mock has Devin Carter going 18.

Son of former Knick Anthony Carter is a combo PG/SG ~6'3" that avg. nearly 8 rebounds a game and is tenacious defender.

Small trade up from 24/25 and bring in Josh/Deuce 2.0 and add to the culture.

My dream draft right now is Devin Carter falling to #24, Nikola Djurisic #25, Ryan Dunn #38.

Curious why people aren't seeing what I see in Yves Missi. 7 footer with a 7'6 wingspan and a 38.5" vertical. He's like a Nerlens Noel without the stone hands and a little more athleticism. Or a Bynum with a little less bulk on those knees. I am waiting to see the rest of the combine results but I have this guy high on my board. When I think about how to deal with the influx of guys like Wemby and Holmgren, he seems like an obvious choice to start working with. He is a little bit of a project at the NBA level, but man if he doesn't have the upside potential.

BigDaddyG @ 5/15/2024 2:16 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:The Wasserman mock has Devin Carter going 18.

Son of former Knick Anthony Carter is a combo PG/SG ~6'3" that avg. nearly 8 rebounds a game and is tenacious defender.

Small trade up from 24/25 and bring in Josh/Deuce 2.0 and add to the culture.

My dream draft right now is Devin Carter falling to #24, Nikola Djurisic #25, Ryan Dunn #38.

Curious why people aren't seeing what I see in Yves Missi. 7 footer with a 7'6 wingspan and a 38.5" vertical. He's like a Nerlens Noel without the stone hands and a little more athleticism. Or a Bynum with a little less bulk on those knees. I am waiting to see the rest of the combine results but I have this guy high on my board. When I think about how to deal with the influx of guys like Wemby and Holmgren, he seems like an obvious choice to start working with. He is a little bit of a project at the NBA level, but man if he doesn't have the upside potential.

I would be fine with. Personally, I'm looking for more wing size.

martin @ 5/15/2024 2:23 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:The Wasserman mock has Devin Carter going 18.

Son of former Knick Anthony Carter is a combo PG/SG ~6'3" that avg. nearly 8 rebounds a game and is tenacious defender.

Small trade up from 24/25 and bring in Josh/Deuce 2.0 and add to the culture.

My dream draft right now is Devin Carter falling to #24, Nikola Djurisic #25, Ryan Dunn #38.

Curious why people aren't seeing what I see in Yves Missi. 7 footer with a 7'6 wingspan and a 38.5" vertical. He's like a Nerlens Noel without the stone hands and a little more athleticism. Or a Bynum with a little less bulk on those knees. I am waiting to see the rest of the combine results but I have this guy high on my board. When I think about how to deal with the influx of guys like Wemby and Holmgren, he seems like an obvious choice to start working with. He is a little bit of a project at the NBA level, but man if he doesn't have the upside potential.

Would be totally interesting to me if the Knicks picked this kid. Interesting potential

martin @ 5/15/2024 3:49 PM

Knixkik @ 5/15/2024 4:25 PM
martin wrote:

Watkins is the name to keep an eye on there. CAA client, local product, and he’s a 2-way wing. Can’t have enough of them.

Alpha1971 @ 5/15/2024 8:32 PM
Knicks should use their second rounders and draft the next Jokic, simple
KnickDanger @ 5/15/2024 8:49 PM
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:

Watkins is the name to keep an eye on there. CAA client, local product, and he’s a 2-way wing. Can’t have enough of them.

dodger78 @ 5/16/2024 4:24 AM
nycericanguy wrote:i wouldn't take Bronny unless it was a package deal with Lebron.

we need those picks to replenish cheap youth.

Hoping Da Silva is there for us, he's such a perfect fit here IMO

Tristan Da Silva would be a great fit for the Knicks I think! Also ticks the box as reliable PF off the bench behind Randle with a different skillset than Precious!
Plus... makes TWO German Knicks with IHart or even FOUR if you include Leonie Fiebich and Nyara Sabally from the Liberty!

On another note Im really really curious to see how Rokas will do in Summer League and what the FO plans for him are! Another "true" PG on the roster would be nice but Im still struggling with his defensive "potential"... not sure if he would see any gametime under Thibs and how he fits into this teams mind-set/identity!

LivingLegend @ 5/16/2024 11:57 AM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:The Wasserman mock has Devin Carter going 18.

Son of former Knick Anthony Carter is a combo PG/SG ~6'3" that avg. nearly 8 rebounds a game and is tenacious defender.

Small trade up from 24/25 and bring in Josh/Deuce 2.0 and add to the culture.

My dream draft right now is Devin Carter falling to #24, Nikola Djurisic #25, Ryan Dunn #38.

I would assume (if not saving assets for big summer trade) we have enough variable assets to move up reasonably to get 1 player we like —- not sure I see us making 2 or let alone 3 picks but who knows.

Carter does seem like Knick/Thibs fit and father Anthony Carter was one of toughest guys I’ve seen in NBA. Realizing now that I had met A Carter in Pueblo, CO. He was playing with Nuggets and we were both in Pueblo for sons youth basketball (I assume that was Devin). I’ve never tried to speak with a pro athlete but I admired his story and toughness so much I walked over in hotel and told him I was a huge fan. He was very soft spoken and humble - told him I was huge fan of his from Knicks days.

Another player whose highlights and strengths I like is the PG from HOUSTON (Shead?) trained under K Sampson and an absolute tiger defensively.

LivingLegend @ 5/16/2024 12:01 PM
Bleacher report mock with trades today has Knicks trading all 3 picks to move up and take Rob Dillingham - 164lb PG from Kentucky. Some Kyrie comparisons with 45% 3FG%.

Looks awfully small but a little Maxey/Quick in his game.

LivingLegend @ 5/16/2024 12:02 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:The Wasserman mock has Devin Carter going 18.

Son of former Knick Anthony Carter is a combo PG/SG ~6'3" that avg. nearly 8 rebounds a game and is tenacious defender.

Small trade up from 24/25 and bring in Josh/Deuce 2.0 and add to the culture.

My dream draft right now is Devin Carter falling to #24, Nikola Djurisic #25, Ryan Dunn #38.

I would assume (if not saving assets for big summer trade) we have enough variable assets to move up reasonably to get 1 player we like —- not sure I see us making 2 or let alone 3 picks but who knows.

Carter does seem like Knick/Thibs fit and father Anthony Carter was one of toughest guys I’ve seen in NBA. Realizing now that I had met A Carter in Pueblo, CO. He was playing with Nuggets and we were both in Pueblo for sons youth basketball (I assume that was Devin). I’ve never tried to speak with a pro athlete but I admired his story and toughness so much I walked over in hotel and told him I was a huge fan. He was very soft spoken and humble - told him I was huge fan of his from Knicks days.

Another player whose highlights and strengths I like is the PG from HOUSTON (Shead?) trained under K Sampson and an absolute tiger defensively.

Actually Martin I could see us drafting a defensive big — I think Mitchy is going to go via trade somewhere/somehow.

martin @ 5/16/2024 12:15 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Bleacher report mock with trades today has Knicks trading all 3 picks to move up and take Rob Dillingham - 164lb PG from Kentucky. Some Kyrie comparisons with 45% 3FG%.

Looks awfully small but a little Maxey/Quick in his game.

martin @ 5/16/2024 12:18 PM
CanItGetAnyWorse @ 5/16/2024 1:27 PM
martin wrote:

One way or another it makes sense to get a true pg to backup Brunson. I think Deuce has shown more than IQ did in the playoffs though. Will take way more assets to move up into the top 10, even in this draft. Probably another first and or swap. Moving assets probably hinges on what we do of course with Bridges, Mitchell, etc.

blkexec @ 5/16/2024 1:33 PM
nycericanguy wrote:i wouldn't take Bronny unless it was a package deal with Lebron.

we need those picks to replenish cheap youth.

Hoping Da Silva is there for us, he's such a perfect fit here IMO

What’s interesting is some WOULD NOT take Bronny because of the pressure to add Lebron in a package deal.

I know a lot of Laker fans who can’t wait for Lebron to leave. Rumor is he’s not good for in game youth development because he holds the ball and controls the offense too much. I think with JB on the team, that’s not an issue for him. And I trust Thibs coaching which would reduce Lebrons control tendencies.

Nalod @ 5/16/2024 2:26 PM
blkexec wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:i wouldn't take Bronny unless it was a package deal with Lebron.

we need those picks to replenish cheap youth.

Hoping Da Silva is there for us, he's such a perfect fit here IMO

What’s interesting is some WOULD NOT take Bronny because of the pressure to add Lebron in a package deal.

I know a lot of Laker fans who can’t wait for Lebron to leave. Rumor is he’s not good for in game youth development because he holds the ball and controls the offense too much. I think with JB on the team, that’s not an issue for him. And I trust Thibs coaching which would reduce Lebrons control tendencies.

Its a low probability at best but as said, he comes to be with Thibs, not push against him.
If he wants to be paid it won't fit.
Lebron takes over when others are not. 21 years he is not just one type of player. He has demonstrated many facets both amazing, and some that are not so great.
The diva, the back stab, the roster thing all true. But not every year, not every team, and not every coach. In some cases he was correct. He was younger when he went to heat and lost in finals to Dallas. It was in part on him. He wanted RIley to coach. Not a bad idea really. But Riley was rigid and said now. They won next two. Lebron left Riley and heat which was correct. Bosh had blood disorder and Wade declined. Dave Blatt was bought into rebuild with Kyrie. Instead he gets Lebron. Blatt took them to finals still. But Lebron was right to move him out. Im not saying Lebron was never out of line. He was. The decision was an awful one. He carried the cavs on his back and young lebron forced Cavs to short term trades. Give him credit for going back after he and Dan Gilbert Burned bridges.

Bron to Knicks? I extend Thibs first. Lebron is not stupid and it would be up to him to sell his vision and what he wants. Maybe Leon with Thibs are down for that. If not, think him for his consideration and move on. I think Randle is moved. Poor guy, twice he gets jettisoned for Lebron! Im not sweating this because its low probability. Nalod really does not want this either.

Rob dillingham? These guys have to write shit and we read it so why not? He is 19. He is insurance for a Brunson injury, a dude off the bench with big upside?
If Leon and Co. have big conviction of this kid then why not. This is the kind of Draft you can move up on because its so not great. But that don't mean there are bad players here, in fact its an opportunity!!!!
If Toronto thinks it can grab some potential with more picks as they rebuild and stash then its a good deal for them.
Letter grade? Gonna take 3-4 years to sort that out.

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