I'm just getting into the prospects - tip of the Knicks cap to you well informed folks. History tells us players' slot predictions will jump around - some falling some ascending - right up to the draft. Even now a guy like Edey fluctuates between the lottery and late first round. And yeah Ryan Dunn is connected to the Knicks or thereabouts in a lot of mocks - does his elite defense overcome his apparent shooting ineptitude? I certainly don't know diddley here but would be happy if he was the/a pick.
Knixkik@ 5/30/2024 7:42 PM
KnickDanger wrote:I'm just getting into the prospects - tip of the Knicks cap to you well informed folks. History tells us players' slot predictions will jump around - some falling some ascending - right up to the draft. Even now a guy like Edey fluctuates between the lottery and late first round. And yeah Ryan Dunn is connected to the Knicks or thereabouts in a lot of mocks - does his elite defense overcome his apparent shooting ineptitude? I certainly don't know diddley here but would be happy if he was the/a pick.
For Dunn, the lack of shooting is obviously the reason he’s not going to be a lottery pick. Because in terms of defensive skillset and body, he’s in that Anunoby/ Shawn Marion level that few have the upside to reach. So the question becomes; what’s better in the later first round, a player who does many things well but non great? Or someone who does one thing at an elite level but struggles elsewhere ? Dunn is a good bet because I hear he’s fairly new to basketball, and Virginia is an old school offensive system that plays slow and doesn’t exactly develop guys offensively. I think Dunn in an nba development system could really get better fast.
newyorknewyork@ 5/30/2024 10:43 PM
BigDaddyG@ 5/30/2024 10:49 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Reminds me o little of Jalen Williams college highlights.
martin@ 5/31/2024 10:25 AM
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I wonder if he would slide a bit more and if the Knicks would take him. Or 2 for 1 trade up, whatever.
newyorknewyork@ 5/31/2024 11:32 AM
martin wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Using both picks to trade up ahead of Miami for Silva is probably the best route to go when all said and done.
#24, #25 & #38 to Portland for #14 & #34.
This is probably the perfect situation for a Silva to be an understudy for OG & Bojan for both sides of the ball.
Can't think of the time the Knicks every actually traded up for a prospect though. Usually are very scared to do things like that.
Man Portland got #7, #14 and lots and lots of players on their roster that need playing time. Something has to give over there.
Considered this with the idea that they would look to package multiple assets for a proven contributor all together.
newyorknewyork@ 5/31/2024 11:36 AM
KnickDanger wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Using both picks to trade up ahead of Miami for Silva is probably the best route to go when all said and done.
#24, #25 & #38 to Portland for #14 & #34.
This is probably the perfect situation for a Silva to be an understudy for OG & Bojan for both sides of the ball.
Can't think of the time the Knicks every actually traded up for a prospect though. Usually are very scared to do things like that.
Maybe, but I would counter that probably most teams have no desire or motive to move down in a draft, barring a big overpay.
Would depend on if they feel for one they could get a similar prospect at 24 than 14 while also adding #25. Mostly believe they would be looking to package for a proven player anyway and having the #24 & #25 helps them more with that attempt?
BigDaddyG@ 5/31/2024 12:02 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Using both picks to trade up ahead of Miami for Silva is probably the best route to go when all said and done.
#24, #25 & #38 to Portland for #14 & #34.
This is probably the perfect situation for a Silva to be an understudy for OG & Bojan for both sides of the ball.
Can't think of the time the Knicks every actually traded up for a prospect though. Usually are very scared to do things like that.
Maybe, but I would counter that probably most teams have no desire or motive to move down in a draft, barring a big overpay.
Would depend on if they feel for one they could get a similar prospect at 24 than 14 while also adding #25. Mostly believe they would be looking to package for a proven player anyway and having the #24 & #25 helps them more with that attempt?
This draft is all over the place. I'm not a big Silva guy because I think he's soft, but a guy like that could go just outside the lottery or drop to the late first round. The fact that the second round will take place on the day after also mucks things up. Will a staff have the same energy for a player on day 2 that they had on day 1 now that they had time to think? The Knicks have tried to trade up in past drafts, but just haven't been successful. I don't think 24 and 25 is enough to get 14. The Knicks were in a similar situation a few years ago when they tried to trade up for Duarte. Duarte went 13 and the Knicks had picks 19 and 21.
martin@ 5/31/2024 12:25 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
martin wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Using both picks to trade up ahead of Miami for Silva is probably the best route to go when all said and done.
#24, #25 & #38 to Portland for #14 & #34.
This is probably the perfect situation for a Silva to be an understudy for OG & Bojan for both sides of the ball.
Can't think of the time the Knicks every actually traded up for a prospect though. Usually are very scared to do things like that.
Man Portland got #7, #14 and lots and lots of players on their roster that need playing time. Something has to give over there.
Considered this with the idea that they would look to package multiple assets for a proven contributor all together.
Right. They got Ayton, Grant Williams, Jerami Grant, Simons, Brogdon, Thybulle. Yutes you got Sharpe, Scoot, #7, Kris Murray and others.
No clue on what direction they are heading.
LivingLegend@ 5/31/2024 12:34 PM
Apparently Givony (ESPN) being quoted that Knicks are exploring trades for 24/25 to extend window of current roster.
I guess this could be interpreted a number of ways but my initial reaction was they are looking to package picks for vet that fits with roster and can help now.
I have been wondering could we package Mitch and maybe a pick or 2 for a vet or to move up for a specific player we like in the draft.
BigDaddyG@ 5/31/2024 5:53 PM
Hahaha... tell you think this draft blows without telling me.
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Not saying this draft does or doesn’t suck BUT this move by Pelicans is more about them waiting out the Lakers and hoping for a potential fall that generates a better pick next year.
LivingLegend@ 5/31/2024 9:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Using both picks to trade up ahead of Miami for Silva is probably the best route to go when all said and done.
#24, #25 & #38 to Portland for #14 & #34.
This is probably the perfect situation for a Silva to be an understudy for OG & Bojan for both sides of the ball.
Can't think of the time the Knicks every actually traded up for a prospect though. Usually are very scared to do things like that.
Maybe, but I would counter that probably most teams have no desire or motive to move down in a draft, barring a big overpay.
Would depend on if they feel for one they could get a similar prospect at 24 than 14 while also adding #25. Mostly believe they would be looking to package for a proven player anyway and having the #24 & #25 helps them more with that attempt?
This draft is all over the place. I'm not a big Silva guy because I think he's soft, but a guy like that could go just outside the lottery or drop to the late first round. The fact that the second round will take place on the day after also mucks things up. Will a staff have the same energy for a player on day 2 that they had on day 1 now that they had time to think? The Knicks have tried to trade up in past drafts, but just haven't been successful. I don't think 24 and 25 is enough to get 14. The Knicks were in a similar situation a few years ago when they tried to trade up for Duarte. Duarte went 13 and the Knicks had picks 19 and 21.
Silvia’s frame at an advanced draft age (24) does appear a bit thun and his game based on limited clips I’ve seen does seem to be very finesse with not so much explosiveness.
martin@ 6/3/2024 10:28 AM
This guy would be nice off Knicks bench
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Would assume Thibs would love his rebounding #s, defensive chops and probably knows his father well.
He's gone up into the low lottery. Kinda reminds me of how Donovan Mitchell's draft went with how he stayed out of the top 10 because of a perceived low ceiling.
