Knicks · 2024 draft thread/Summer Offseason (page 23)

Nalod @ 6/10/2024 8:16 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Jalen Duren lite. I could see the Knicks taking this kid with one of the picks

His combine measurements are very very close to Mitch measurements at his combine.

Missi is ~1" shorter in height, wingspan and standing reach but he's actually 6 lbs heavier than Mitch was.

Seems to have a ton more natural basketball awareness than Mitch too

he's not going to be there unless we move up.

Watching some clips of K Ware and dare I say his body type, mannerisms and movement remind me of…………young Abdul Jabbar.

Not saying he’s Jabbar but that’s who his body and movement —- even the way he fights for post up and moves for his shot. Interesting player and think I read somewhere some teams have him in top 10.

In the Indiana Uni, looks more like Jared Jeffries than young "Alcindor".
Interesting? Perhaps your right.
His foot speed is for sure faster than young Kareem. The slim build is similar.

Still is amazing that no player really has tried to replicate the Sky hook! So dominant a weapon. I was looking for Ware getting the ball low post and seeing what he looked like. I did not see perhaps what you saw. Kareem would set up for the sky hook or a face up jumper shot. Also he could pass. Different game and era of Course.

LivingLegend @ 6/10/2024 10:01 AM
jaydh wrote:Several teams linked to Mitch have earlier picks. Plus we need to trim payroll.

This!!!

LivingLegend @ 6/10/2024 10:07 AM
Nalod wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Jalen Duren lite. I could see the Knicks taking this kid with one of the picks

His combine measurements are very very close to Mitch measurements at his combine.

Missi is ~1" shorter in height, wingspan and standing reach but he's actually 6 lbs heavier than Mitch was.

Seems to have a ton more natural basketball awareness than Mitch too

he's not going to be there unless we move up.

Watching some clips of K Ware and dare I say his body type, mannerisms and movement remind me of…………young Abdul Jabbar.

Not saying he’s Jabbar but that’s who his body and movement —- even the way he fights for post up and moves for his shot. Interesting player and think I read somewhere some teams have him in top 10.

In the Indiana Uni, looks more like Jared Jeffries than young "Alcindor".
Interesting? Perhaps your right.
His foot speed is for sure faster than young Kareem. The slim build is similar.

Still is amazing that no player really has tried to replicate the Sky hook! So dominant a weapon. I was looking for Ware getting the ball low post and seeing what he looked like. I did not see perhaps what you saw. Kareem would set up for the sky hook or a face up jumper shot. Also he could pass. Different game and era of Course.

The clips I was watching - when he was fighting for deep post position his process - the way he dipped into the body using his rear-end, feet spread wide, right hand held high calling for ball it just reminded me of Kareem. It really was just his overall movement and fluidness that flashed similar to Kareem's movement.

I've never seen him live - not sure if he is really good or a g-league guy but in the clips he's got some very nice offensive arsenal. Another thing his combine athletic testing in short area short shuttle and lane agility were very good.

LivingLegend @ 6/10/2024 10:15 AM
Per NBA combine Ware measurements round to 7' height without shoes, 10.25" hands, 9'5' reach and 7'5" wingspan - 230 lbs.

Pretty good size but again don't know the player outside of a few highlights and comments that some teams have him top 10.

martin @ 6/10/2024 10:32 AM
franco12 @ 6/10/2024 11:07 AM
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

Knixkik @ 6/10/2024 6:03 PM
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

He would be a logical Achiuwa replacement with maybe more upside due to the shooting potential.

VDesai @ 6/10/2024 9:10 PM
Dont you guys know by now to be wary of the Dayton highlight tape?
VDesai @ 6/11/2024 1:51 PM
I will still beat the drum on Adem Bona. Sims athleticism with maybe more of Achiuwa's range.

Anyone like Jamal Shead? No shooting at all, but maybe Deuce level POA defense at PG with some ability to lead a real offense?

Nalod @ 6/11/2024 1:59 PM
VDesai wrote:I will still beat the drum on Adem Bona. Sims athleticism with maybe more of Achiuwa's range.

Anyone like Jamal Shead? No shooting at all, but maybe Deuce level POA defense at PG with some ability to lead a real offense?

There is a "Grady Dick" joke somewhere.

VDesai @ 6/11/2024 3:12 PM
Thibs would definitely get Bona watching Adem' tape. Switchability and recovery range with rim protection. Raw to useless on offense at this point.
Clean @ 6/12/2024 8:54 AM

He sounds good but the defensive limitions and athletic negatives worry me. We can't be taking on many more poor defenders. We have Randle, Brunson and Bogey to cover.
newyorknewyork @ 6/12/2024 10:10 AM
VDesai wrote:Dont you guys know by now to be wary of the Dayton highlight tape?

Difference between lotto pick and late first round haha.

newyorknewyork @ 6/12/2024 10:19 AM
Knixkik wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

He would be a logical Achiuwa replacement with maybe more upside due to the shooting potential.

“ESPN reported that Holmes shut down workouts and the speculation is that the Nuggets made him a promise,” O'Connor wrote. “If that's true, then Holmes could be the floor-spacing, versatile big man that the Nuggets wish Zeke Nnaji had become.”Jun 5, 2024
Clean @ 6/12/2024 11:14 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

He would be a logical Achiuwa replacement with maybe more upside due to the shooting potential.

“ESPN reported that Holmes shut down workouts and the speculation is that the Nuggets made him a promise,” O'Connor wrote. “If that's true, then Holmes could be the floor-spacing, versatile big man that the Nuggets wish Zeke Nnaji had become.”Jun 5, 2024

Now seeing his videos it looks like he would be the best bet for Thibs to play a big that can also space the floor. This is something we especially need to open the floor up and it looks like he is good enough on D for Thibs to work his magic on him. Sims has become useless so he can go. Plus the Nuggets pick after us so I don't care if they gave him a promise.

newyorknewyork @ 6/12/2024 12:51 PM
Clean wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

He would be a logical Achiuwa replacement with maybe more upside due to the shooting potential.

“ESPN reported that Holmes shut down workouts and the speculation is that the Nuggets made him a promise,” O'Connor wrote. “If that's true, then Holmes could be the floor-spacing, versatile big man that the Nuggets wish Zeke Nnaji had become.”Jun 5, 2024

Now seeing his videos it looks like he would be the best bet for Thibs to play a big that can also space the floor. This is something we especially need to open the floor up and it looks like he is good enough on D for Thibs to work his magic on him. Sims has become useless so he can go. Plus the Nuggets pick after us so I don't care if they gave him a promise.

I'm more concerned about the Bucks with the pick right before us.

BigDaddyG @ 6/12/2024 1:09 PM
Clean wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

He would be a logical Achiuwa replacement with maybe more upside due to the shooting potential.

“ESPN reported that Holmes shut down workouts and the speculation is that the Nuggets made him a promise,” O'Connor wrote. “If that's true, then Holmes could be the floor-spacing, versatile big man that the Nuggets wish Zeke Nnaji had become.”Jun 5, 2024

Now seeing his videos it looks like he would be the best bet for Thibs to play a big that can also space the floor. This is something we especially need to open the floor up and it looks like he is good enough on D for Thibs to work his magic on him. Sims has become useless so he can go. Plus the Nuggets pick after us so I don't care if they gave him a promise.


The Knicks might be able to extort the Nuggets for some second round picks if Holmes does reach us that far in the draft.
martin @ 6/12/2024 1:38 PM
Clean wrote:
He sounds good but the defensive limitions and athletic negatives worry me. We can't be taking on many more poor defenders. We have Randle, Brunson and Bogey to cover.

I have to tell you, for backup PG, I don’t worry too much about the defensive capabilities. Feel like that guy can’t be incompetent or really deficient but Brunson-esque level effort and execution is AOK with me especially when the second unit is so defensively capable. Mitch, Deuce, Hart, Precious. And then OG, Randle, DDV, iHart Sharing the floor too.

That’s solid enough and high capable PG, dribble drive, and PnR is more important to go with shooting.

martin @ 6/12/2024 1:40 PM
Clean wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

He would be a logical Achiuwa replacement with maybe more upside due to the shooting potential.

“ESPN reported that Holmes shut down workouts and the speculation is that the Nuggets made him a promise,” O'Connor wrote. “If that's true, then Holmes could be the floor-spacing, versatile big man that the Nuggets wish Zeke Nnaji had become.”Jun 5, 2024

Now seeing his videos it looks like he would be the best bet for Thibs to play a big that can also space the floor. This is something we especially need to open the floor up and it looks like he is good enough on D for Thibs to work his magic on him. Sims has become useless so he can go. Plus the Nuggets pick after us so I don't care if they gave him a promise.

Haha maybe Knicks gave him the promise!

martin @ 6/12/2024 1:41 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:

He looks great and will be there hopefully when we pick.

We need some big athletic forwards.

He would be a logical Achiuwa replacement with maybe more upside due to the shooting potential.

“ESPN reported that Holmes shut down workouts and the speculation is that the Nuggets made him a promise,” O'Connor wrote. “If that's true, then Holmes could be the floor-spacing, versatile big man that the Nuggets wish Zeke Nnaji had become.”Jun 5, 2024

Now seeing his videos it looks like he would be the best bet for Thibs to play a big that can also space the floor. This is something we especially need to open the floor up and it looks like he is good enough on D for Thibs to work his magic on him. Sims has become useless so he can go. Plus the Nuggets pick after us so I don't care if they gave him a promise.


The Knicks might be able to extort the Nuggets for some second round picks if Holmes does reach us that far in the draft.

Our guy Brock all over this

martin @ 6/13/2024 2:05 PM
This guy been brought up? Very iHart lite in a 4's body.

https://www.thestrick.land/strick/the-st...

Jonathan Mogbo (Power forward, San Francisco)

Draft night age: 22.6
Height: 6 ft 7 in
Wingspan: 7 ft 2 in
Weight: 220 lbs

Prez’s Sales Pitch: Mogbo is an athletic marvel with an NBA body that only a few years ago was sub-6 feet. In college he was a point-center and dunk machine; in the NBA he’ll likely play the 4 and rely on his guard-like movement and face-up handle and explosion. Though he didn’t shoot jumpers, all he has to do is get proficient from the corner and you’ve got a super-charged, super-smart big wing connector. He understands the game, and learning to chuck and defend perimeter players is easy enough in the G-League — the payoff would be well worth it.

Questions about their projection: Mogbo is too small to play the 5 in the NBA — full stop. His projection requires two pretty gigantic “ifs”: if he goes from never shooting to shooting well, and if he can be a strong defender at the 4. Though he played there some in college, the NBA is a whole new ballgame: one night you’re the china shop to Julius Randle’s bull in the paint, the next you’re trying to catch Paul George or keep him in front of you on the perimeter.

Important Stats:

14/10/4/1.6/0.8

11.1 BPM. A great number.

25 AST%. Insanely high for a big man.

14.5%/29.3% OREB%/DREB%. Elite numbers.

3.2 steal rate (STL%)

3.5 BLK%

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