Knicks · 2024 draft thread/Summer Offseason (page 48)

LivingLegend @ 6/28/2024 11:14 PM
My gut tells me PG doesn't really care about winning and will prefer to stay in LA where he is comfortable and close to family / Mother.

Now - what if PG decides he wants join the party to play for Knicks and that is his #1 preference.

Would anyone entertain moving Randle/Mitch(?) for PG? Below assumes we retain I-Hart and hopefully we could retain Precious as back-up C.

PG doesn't bring Randles force but we'd have a tremendously skilled unit and ability to match up with 3 top offensive players on any team.

Brunson
Bridges
PG
OG
I-Hart

jaydh @ 6/29/2024 6:15 AM
LivingLegend wrote:My gut tells me PG doesn't really care about winning and will prefer to stay in LA where he is comfortable and close to family / Mother.

When a player says he'd rather join a team to play basketball the right way rather than to win, that's all you need to know.

newyorknewyork @ 6/29/2024 8:38 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Probably the funniest and most entertaining draft with all the trades.

I like the Kolek pick. He was at the top of my list based on the late and very little research I did. He plays like a Thibs type and has the skillset with the passing that we needed off the bench.

Did no research on Dadiet, McCullers or Hukporti. But Dadiet's highlights are impressive. He looks as talented as any of the lotto wings. He is a perfect wing to stash away overseas or in Westchester until he is ready. Going up against Hart, OG and Bridges in practice is a great way to learn too.

And the other two guys were picked in the 50s so it's whatever.

All I have is questions. Kolek means we don’t bring over Joku? Then what do we do with Joku?
Dadiet? Need more info.
McCullers defensive SG with no offensive game?
Hukporti?

All those trade backs. Probably should have additional consideration, no? What’s the additional consideration?

I guess Kolek could result in Joku being added to a trade (implications are fuzzy) or staying in Europe. I believe Kolek will be on roster as experienced 23 year old college starter.

I think McCullers has some offense but needs to put in the proverbial 1,000 3’s a day and likely tweak his form. See Trevor Ariza.

Have to assume Dadiet cap hit is going to be moved somehow - not sure if staying overseas is only option but he can’t sit all year on bench and we need his $ for other moves.

Hukporti I’ll be surprised if he ever plays a second but still unclear why we moved down an inch to pick up P Koponen 36 year old rights.

I don't feel they drafted Dadiet with the intentions to move him, or it would have been done already. Dadiet also made it very known his desire to stay with the club that drafted him leading up to the draft. Odds are he gets his work in the G league and the Knicks accounted for his salary when crunching.

Right but couldn't (if needed) Dadiet be added to potential Bridges traded to make #s work in some favor with his 1st round salary not hitting our books but acquiring team? Not saying this is likely but he could end up as a potential trade part to incentivize us getting to desired cap #s via lower 2nd round contracts or min vet deals.

Its all possible, question is what are the Nets giving back in terms of draft capital out of the deal? If we're adding guys like say Duece & Dadiet to the deal for cap purposes?

newyorknewyork @ 6/29/2024 8:40 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:

Have always liked this guy but really makes me wonder why he rode bench for Pacers behind both Jackson/Toppin,

He is interesting.

His overall defensive metrics leave much to be desired.

EwingsGlass @ 6/29/2024 11:29 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:

Have always liked this guy but really makes me wonder why he rode bench for Pacers behind both Jackson/Toppin,

He is interesting.

His overall defensive metrics leave much to be desired.

Genuinely asking, did any Pacers player have a positive defensive metric? They were the epitome of the “team that scores the most points has the best defense” approach by both pace and floor spacing. They released players early to be advantageous on the open court regularly. Defensive metrics are highly correlated by team defense. Would love to see an article on him that already did that work.

Nalod @ 6/29/2024 11:37 AM
VDesai wrote:
martin wrote:

So has anyone figured out the value of collecting draft rights to guys who are never gonna play yet? There must be some reason to do it, right?

Spare parts. Or, as Organ donors?
Maybe Brock Aller has a secret work around he gonna unleash on the league.

Knixkik @ 6/29/2024 12:05 PM
Nalod wrote:
VDesai wrote:
martin wrote:

So has anyone figured out the value of collecting draft rights to guys who are never gonna play yet? There must be some reason to do it, right?

Spare parts. Or, as Organ donors?
Maybe Brock Aller has a secret work around he gonna unleash on the league.

I used to think it was a way to send something back when absorbing a contract when you have cap space. But I think it’s just become a weird thing he likes to do as a meaningless personal signature.

gradyandrew @ 6/29/2024 12:09 PM
Dejounte Murray to New Orleans makes a lot of sense- I was just surprised that they didn't do a trade straight up for Brandon Ingram. I guess Atlanta was more concerned about avoiding the luxury tax going forward. Ingram should be on the move somewhere but where? Maybe Houston makes sense as they can send back Steven Adams and a young guy to match salary.

Going by the moves so far, this is setting up to be a blockbuster summer.

Rookie @ 6/29/2024 12:15 PM
Evil Donte is a FA.
martin @ 6/29/2024 12:44 PM
7 minutes of another teams podcast really liking what the Knicks are doing. Ego boost for sure!

Rookie @ 6/29/2024 1:49 PM
Sadie Bey a FA
martin @ 6/29/2024 2:03 PM
One man's opinion, Knicks come out on top of second round picks

BigDaddyG @ 6/29/2024 2:23 PM
martin wrote:One man's opinion, Knicks come out on top of second round picks

Reverse jinx? CBS has been so wrong about the Knicks draft in the past, I don't know if this is necessarily a good thing.

martin @ 6/29/2024 2:44 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:One man's opinion, Knicks come out on top of second round picks

Reverse jinx? CBS has been so wrong about the Knicks draft in the past, I don't know if this is necessarily a good thing.

They slow learners but are coming around

martin @ 6/29/2024 3:55 PM
martin @ 6/29/2024 3:56 PM
What the actual fuck lol

martin @ 6/29/2024 4:03 PM
martin @ 6/29/2024 4:44 PM
HELL YES this ties up OKC until we figure out iHart!

martin @ 6/29/2024 4:45 PM
martin @ 6/29/2024 4:53 PM
Yikes, he got LAC by the short ones

martin @ 6/29/2024 4:54 PM
Philly or OKC? Or PG just holding out for the no-trade?

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