Knicks · 2024 draft thread/Summer Offseason (page 67)

EwingsGlass @ 7/9/2024 12:56 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:Bertans, hey in the last few seconds of the game, and you need a three to tie or win, sub him in. Bertans, OG, Mitchell, Brunson and Divo.

I am very low on Bertans. I don't want him near Dadiet in case whatever D-sease he has is contagious.

martin @ 7/9/2024 12:57 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Clean wrote:

Is it cause we miss Discount Double Check or Bogey and need a direct representation on the bench?


Thibs' needs a new whipping boy now that Fournier is gone.

Yeah fair

martin @ 7/9/2024 2:22 PM
I letgit don't know what to make of this. Dude was #1 pick. He is super talented. He did not raise the floor of the team by himself but his team also sucked.

By comparison, RJ was resigned for 17.5% of cap and (give or take) that's his cap hit for 4 years until 2026-27.

It's not a straight exchange, but that extra ~7% is like not having a DDV sized contract on your cap.

VDesai @ 7/9/2024 2:35 PM
Bertans would be a bizarre turn of events. Excellent from 3, but does nothing else
martin @ 7/9/2024 2:37 PM
But can he be a Thibsian style rim protector?!?

VDesai @ 7/9/2024 2:41 PM
martin wrote:But can he be a Thibsian style rim protector?!?

Feel like Yurtseven would be worth a flyer on a league min type deal

Philc1 @ 7/9/2024 6:18 PM
19 year old 7’2 Center who has post up moves and can even dribble. Let’s do this. Yangsanity!
EwingsGlass @ 7/9/2024 7:16 PM
Philc1 wrote:19 year old 7’2 Center who has post up moves and can even dribble. Let’s do this. Yangsanity!

Smooth for a 7footer. Reminds me a bit of Luc Longley

Rookie @ 7/9/2024 9:31 PM
A guy to keep an eye on - Cormac Ryan. Went undrafted, played last year at UNC. From NYC. 25 years old. Kid plays hard and can shoot lights out when he gets hot. On OKC summer squad
LivingLegend @ 7/9/2024 11:41 PM
Clean wrote:
This and teams generally going small is good for Randle and his bully ball.

Joking a bit here but for every kick-out assist Julius will throw 1 pass into the 10th row and be late on a close out on the other end.

Ju giveth and taketh ---- think he's going to be traded soon if they can manage.

LivingLegend @ 7/9/2024 11:43 PM
VDesai wrote:Bertans would be a bizarre turn of events. Excellent from 3, but does nothing else

Wonder if Bertans qualifies as a vet they can give a certain contract to that they can also use in a trade with $ working in our favor.

Saying that I have no idea what I mean.

martin @ 7/10/2024 11:07 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
VDesai wrote:Bertans would be a bizarre turn of events. Excellent from 3, but does nothing else

Wonder if Bertans qualifies as a vet they can give a certain contract to that they can also use in a trade with $ working in our favor.

Saying that I have no idea what I mean.

The guys over at Knicks Film School cover this exact scenario and I got lost in the details. The short answer is Yes but I have no idea what the qualifiers for that are.

Alpha1971 @ 7/10/2024 12:24 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Bertans, hey in the last few seconds of the game, and you need a three to tie or win, sub him in. Bertans, OG, Mitchell, Brunson and Divo.

I am very low on Bertans. I don't want him near Dadiet in case whatever D-sease he has is contagious.

Bertans has the disease that gets a mediocre player a fortune and a beautiful wife by capitalizing on a elite skill at worst is that a bad lesson for the rookie ? The rookie will learn to be at least elite at something but will likely be much better.

Rookie @ 7/10/2024 1:42 PM
Wow, Ben Simmons is finally healed and ready to play. Hallelua people!! Just in time for his contract year. I would imagine that’s just his agent and Simmons is still the same mess he has been for the last 2 years. The real question is if you are Brooklyn do you play him or sit him? I would imagine he is going to get waived at some point but smart money is on after the trade deadline. If they sit him he’s going to be the story again. I guess in a tank year Brooklyn doesn’t really care much about distractions
martin @ 7/10/2024 2:06 PM
LAC has maybe a very strange FO.

Let's extend the guys who has chronic knee issues.

Let's let the guy who we gave up the farm for, walk.

EwingsGlass @ 7/10/2024 2:12 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Bertans, hey in the last few seconds of the game, and you need a three to tie or win, sub him in. Bertans, OG, Mitchell, Brunson and Divo.

I am very low on Bertans. I don't want him near Dadiet in case whatever D-sease he has is contagious.

Bertans has the disease that gets a mediocre player a fortune and a beautiful wife by capitalizing on a elite skill at worst is that a bad lesson for the rookie ? The rookie will learn to be at least elite at something but will likely be much better.

Good for the player, bad for the team. Overpricing elite 3 point shooting is a categorical flaw. 3&D gets smart money. 3only gets dumb money. I want to pay for 3&Ds. Keep the no Defense 3 guys away from Knicks yoots. I know I have a strong opinion, but I probably wouldn't sign another Fournier-type for this team regardless of length.

Clean @ 7/10/2024 2:35 PM
martin wrote:LAC has maybe a very strange FO.

Let's extend the guys who has chronic knee issues.

Let's let the guy who we gave up the farm for, walk.

If you watched him walking into Team USA on the first day he was already limping.

Edit: Found the video. If you look closely he is using the suitcase like a cane.

martin @ 7/10/2024 3:15 PM
KnickDanger @ 7/10/2024 3:58 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Bertans, hey in the last few seconds of the game, and you need a three to tie or win, sub him in. Bertans, OG, Mitchell, Brunson and Divo.

I am very low on Bertans. I don't want him near Dadiet in case whatever D-sease he has is contagious.

Bertans has the disease that gets a mediocre player a fortune and a beautiful wife by capitalizing on a elite skill at worst is that a bad lesson for the rookie ? The rookie will learn to be at least elite at something but will likely be much better.

Good for the player, bad for the team. Overpricing elite 3 point shooting is a categorical flaw. 3&D gets smart money. 3only gets dumb money. I want to pay for 3&Ds. Keep the no Defense 3 guys away from Knicks yoots. I know I have a strong opinion, but I probably wouldn't sign another Fournier-type for this team regardless of length.


You are not alone here.
Alpha1971 @ 7/10/2024 5:34 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Bertans, hey in the last few seconds of the game, and you need a three to tie or win, sub him in. Bertans, OG, Mitchell, Brunson and Divo.

I am very low on Bertans. I don't want him near Dadiet in case whatever D-sease he has is contagious.

Bertans has the disease that gets a mediocre player a fortune and a beautiful wife by capitalizing on a elite skill at worst is that a bad lesson for the rookie ? The rookie will learn to be at least elite at something but will likely be much better.

Good for the player, bad for the team. Overpricing elite 3 point shooting is a categorical flaw. 3&D gets smart money. 3only gets dumb money. I want to pay for 3&Ds. Keep the no Defense 3 guys away from Knicks yoots. I know I have a strong opinion, but I probably wouldn't sign another Fournier-type for this team regardless of length.

The rookie will be better and plus he has OG, Bridges, Hart Deuce to watch as well. No need to hate on Bertans. He may not be your kind of player but if the team picks him up must be for a reason, perhaps as a specialist at ends of quarters and in last second shot situations. If he comes in and wins us a few games with a last second in bound three, you'll love him.

EwingsGlass @ 7/10/2024 6:51 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Bertans, hey in the last few seconds of the game, and you need a three to tie or win, sub him in. Bertans, OG, Mitchell, Brunson and Divo.

I am very low on Bertans. I don't want him near Dadiet in case whatever D-sease he has is contagious.

Bertans has the disease that gets a mediocre player a fortune and a beautiful wife by capitalizing on a elite skill at worst is that a bad lesson for the rookie ? The rookie will learn to be at least elite at something but will likely be much better.

Good for the player, bad for the team. Overpricing elite 3 point shooting is a categorical flaw. 3&D gets smart money. 3only gets dumb money. I want to pay for 3&Ds. Keep the no Defense 3 guys away from Knicks yoots. I know I have a strong opinion, but I probably wouldn't sign another Fournier-type for this team regardless of length.

The rookie will be better and plus he has OG, Bridges, Hart Deuce to watch as well. No need to hate on Bertans. He may not be your kind of player but if the team picks him up must be for a reason, perhaps as a specialist at ends of quarters and in last second shot situations. If he comes in and wins us a few games with a last second in bound three, you'll love him.

Curtains for Bertans. I will start a club to protest his presence in MSG.

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