Knicks · 2024 draft thread/Summer Offseason (page 78)

BigDaddyG @ 9/7/2024 4:38 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:He’s ahead of Randle. Odd comparing a PG to a PF, not apples to apples.

The good:
Average to above average eFG and TS%. Above average passing. Low-ish turnover rate, but not elite 3:1. Has a chip. Pretty much straight line consistent improvement year in, year out.

The bad: below average defender. above average height 6’4, but average wingspan 6’6. When he was out, 21-22, the nuggets didn’t really see a difference in their performance.

Nobody wants me to recite Randle’s weaknesses, but we will leave that Randle and Murray, like Trae Young end up on the “overrated” lists. I think for Murray at least has a chip, but with middling athleticism, he is a direct recipient of Jokic’s elite court vision. As evidenced by the 21-22 season where in his absence Denver did nearly exactly the same.


I'd say Murray is maybe a top 50 NBA player, give or take, and Randle is in that range. The real issue is that Murray looked like crap in the playoffs and looked really bad in the Olympics. You mentioned the middling athleticism and the nagging lower body injuries and Id be scared as a Nuggets fan.
martin @ 9/7/2024 5:09 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:He’s ahead of Randle. Odd comparing a PG to a PF, not apples to apples.

The good:
Average to above average eFG and TS%. Above average passing. Low-ish turnover rate, but not elite 3:1. Has a chip. Pretty much straight line consistent improvement year in, year out.

The bad: below average defender. above average height 6’4, but average wingspan 6’6. When he was out, 21-22, the nuggets didn’t really see a difference in their performance.

Nobody wants me to recite Randle’s weaknesses, but we will leave that Randle and Murray, like Trae Young end up on the “overrated” lists. I think for Murray at least has a chip, but with middling athleticism, he is a direct recipient of Jokic’s elite court vision. As evidenced by the 21-22 season where in his absence Denver did nearly exactly the same.


I'd say Murray is maybe a top 50 NBA player, give or take, and Randle is in that range. The real issue is that Murray looked like crap in the playoffs and looked really bad in the Olympics. You mentioned the middling athleticism and the nagging lower body injuries and Id be scared as a Nuggets fan.

That last part was my sense as well, especially considering his health history.

That contract could get scary.

EwingsGlass @ 9/13/2024 3:39 PM
https://bvmsports.com/2024/09/13/valley-...

Westchester Knicks trade Mamadi Diakite for Theo Maledon and Trevion Williams.

EwingsGlass @ 9/14/2024 8:44 AM
Christian Koloko? I’d sign him.
BigDaddyG @ 9/14/2024 1:30 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:Christian Koloko? I’d sign him.

Looks like Lakers are frontrunners. I wonder how bad AJ Griffin's reputation has tanked. Leon and Wes have ties to the family.

EwingsGlass @ 9/14/2024 2:07 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Christian Koloko? I’d sign him.

Looks like Lakers are frontrunners. I wonder how bad AJ Griffin's reputation has tanked. Leon and Wes have ties to the family.

Including 2ways and exhibit 10s, lakers have 21 players including 4 Centers currently under contract. Not saying our 19 is much better, but with our lack of depth at C, I’d think we are the better opportunity. With OG and Precious, he’d have some familiar faces.

martin @ 9/14/2024 2:43 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:Christian Koloko? I’d sign him.

Looks like Lakers are frontrunners. I wonder how bad AJ Griffin's reputation has tanked. Leon and Wes have ties to the family.

Including 2ways and exhibit 10s, lakers have 21 players including 4 Centers currently under contract. Not saying our 19 is much better, but with our lack of depth at C, I’d think we are the better opportunity. With OG and Precious, he’d have some familiar faces.

Can’t recall if I read he had some blood clotting issues. Could be old news

martin @ 9/14/2024 3:23 PM
Wow seems like a bargain rate?

ToddTT @ 9/16/2024 8:52 PM
Pretty stand-up tweet.

Okay, now go **** yourselves.

martin @ 9/16/2024 10:59 PM
Miami will always be tough as nails and yet we already know they ain’t in the same class as Knicks 😤

ToddTT wrote:Pretty stand-up tweet.

Okay, now go **** yourselves.

EwingsGlass @ 9/17/2024 8:31 AM

Westchester Knicks starting 5?

Kolek
McCullar
Toppin
Diadet
Hukpori

martin @ 9/17/2024 9:01 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:

Westchester Knicks starting 5?

Kolek
McCullar
Toppin
Diadet
Hukpori

It's a team a fan can get behind. It's well thought out, maybe coincidentally so but it's there.

So much fun.

Rookie @ 9/20/2024 3:47 PM
martin wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:

Westchester Knicks starting 5?

Kolek
McCullar
Toppin
Diadet
Hukpori

It's a team a fan can get behind. It's well thought out, maybe coincidentally so but it's there.

So much fun.

I bet that squad could beat the Pistons😂

Nalod @ 9/20/2024 4:04 PM
Rookie wrote:
martin wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:

Westchester Knicks starting 5?

Kolek
McCullar
Toppin
Diadet
Hukpori

It's a team a fan can get behind. It's well thought out, maybe coincidentally so but it's there.

So much fun.

I bet that squad could beat the Pistons😂

Not even close.

ToddTT @ 9/25/2024 10:25 PM
Woj would have posted this 20 seconds sooner.

Good for Kevin. Good guy.

Chandler @ 9/26/2024 10:44 AM
^^ too easy to say he should've stayed in college. I don't think more time would've addressed his humongous and slow feet.

to this day, i have no idea what the knicks brain trust saw in him in the purported 3-way workout with Mikal and Miles Bridges or why they passed on SGA but it pretty much explains why we sucked

regardless he seems like a good dude and i wish him the best

Nalod @ 9/26/2024 10:57 AM
Chandler wrote:^^ too easy to say he should've stayed in college. I don't think more time would've addressed his humongous and slow feet.

to this day, i have no idea what the knicks brain trust saw in him in the purported 3-way workout with Mikal and Miles Bridges or why they passed on SGA but it pretty much explains why we sucked

regardless he seems like a good dude and i wish him the best

Knox was a 5 star recruit who had offers from all the big schools. Duke and UNC if he wanted.
He just turned 25 a month ago. He was super young also!

You had Ayton and Bagley go 1 and 2. Then Doncic, Jaren Jackson, Trae young, Mo Bamba, Wendal Carter, Colin Sexton, then Knox. Mikal, SGA, then Miles Bridges. The value was outside the top 10. Jalen Brunson at 33rd!!! Mitch at 36th!!!

BigDaddyG @ 9/26/2024 12:36 PM
ToddTT wrote:Woj would have posted this 20 seconds sooner.

Good for Kevin. Good guy.

GSW has helped rejuvenate some careers. Maybe a year of listening to Steph and protecti5gus crotch from Draymond can help Knox turn things around. I'm rooting for the kid.

martin @ 9/26/2024 12:47 PM
Nalod wrote:
Chandler wrote:^^ too easy to say he should've stayed in college. I don't think more time would've addressed his humongous and slow feet.

to this day, i have no idea what the knicks brain trust saw in him in the purported 3-way workout with Mikal and Miles Bridges or why they passed on SGA but it pretty much explains why we sucked

regardless he seems like a good dude and i wish him the best

Knox was a 5 star recruit who had offers from all the big schools. Duke and UNC if he wanted.
He just turned 25 a month ago. He was super young also!

You had Ayton and Bagley go 1 and 2. Then Doncic, Jaren Jackson, Trae young, Mo Bamba, Wendal Carter, Colin Sexton, then Knox. Mikal, SGA, then Miles Bridges. The value was outside the top 10. Jalen Brunson at 33rd!!! Mitch at 36th!!!

Man, what a year to fuck up the draft. And not just the Knicks.

EwingsGlass @ 9/26/2024 4:11 PM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Chandler wrote:^^ too easy to say he should've stayed in college. I don't think more time would've addressed his humongous and slow feet.

to this day, i have no idea what the knicks brain trust saw in him in the purported 3-way workout with Mikal and Miles Bridges or why they passed on SGA but it pretty much explains why we sucked

regardless he seems like a good dude and i wish him the best

Knox was a 5 star recruit who had offers from all the big schools. Duke and UNC if he wanted.
He just turned 25 a month ago. He was super young also!

You had Ayton and Bagley go 1 and 2. Then Doncic, Jaren Jackson, Trae young, Mo Bamba, Wendal Carter, Colin Sexton, then Knox. Mikal, SGA, then Miles Bridges. The value was outside the top 10. Jalen Brunson at 33rd!!! Mitch at 36th!!!

Man, what a year to fuck up the draft. And not just the Knicks.

Right? Had to try to miss on this draft

martin @ 9/26/2024 5:43 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Chandler wrote:^^ too easy to say he should've stayed in college. I don't think more time would've addressed his humongous and slow feet.

to this day, i have no idea what the knicks brain trust saw in him in the purported 3-way workout with Mikal and Miles Bridges or why they passed on SGA but it pretty much explains why we sucked

regardless he seems like a good dude and i wish him the best

Knox was a 5 star recruit who had offers from all the big schools. Duke and UNC if he wanted.
He just turned 25 a month ago. He was super young also!

You had Ayton and Bagley go 1 and 2. Then Doncic, Jaren Jackson, Trae young, Mo Bamba, Wendal Carter, Colin Sexton, then Knox. Mikal, SGA, then Miles Bridges. The value was outside the top 10. Jalen Brunson at 33rd!!! Mitch at 36th!!!

Man, what a year to fuck up the draft. And not just the Knicks.

Right? Had to try to miss on this draft

Doncic broke the slow, not in great shape, euro white guy who prob hangs with Vlad and drinks wine and smokes at halftime LOL

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