EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:KAT has my attention now. 1) Barrett, Fournier and Toppin for KAT and Jaden McDaniels. Assume we send some picks.
2) Mitch Robinson, IQ for OG Anunoby. Assume we send picks.
3) DDV for Full MLE
4) Biannual to Rokas.
Brunson/RokJok/McBride
Grimes/DDV
OG/Hart
Randle/JMac
KAT/Hart/ Sims
Locked and loaded.
How does that team stack up with tg new CBA ? Locked in tax wise ?
36 Kat
26 Brunson
28 Randle
18 OG
16? Hart
12.4 DDV
Hart 9.7
JMav 3.9
Grimes 2.2
About 162m this year when you add the other roster spots and two way contract. About 3mm under the tax. Going forward, you have extensions and such to watch but could potentially manage them with the tax and the apron rising pretty significantly. It’s pretty well situated here with some contracts decreasing in value.
With this roster cap problems will arise in '24 season. KAT jumps to $52M (and then between $55-$65 per season through '27-'28). Randle increases to $32. McDaniels will be an RFA and jump to $$11M+. Hart is rumored to be looking for $20M per extension. OG has a player option and could be looking at a $35M+ per season extension.
The new CBA put in a cap levelling component so you may only see perhaps up to 10% rises per season. With the proposed roster, Knicks will likely be over the 2nd apron in '24.
The knicks will just run it back keeping the 9-man rotation last year and at the most add DiVincenzo.
For the 1st 25-30 games of next season Thibs will go back to a 10-man rotation and he will do his best to manage the minutes of his starters by limiting it to 28-30 mins/game. Giving enough playing time for Obi, DiVincenzo if signed and the rest of the bench.
If by the end of the 30 games they are around 500, Thibs can continue this minutes distribution until a need to go back to a 9-man rotation hopefully by the trade deadline they can trade to fix the rotation for thibs 9-man rotation.
But my hope is, they can sign DiVincenzo, trade Obi so he can play more. Trade for OG with a package of Fournier and Grimes plus picks. The Obi trade should net a reliable backup 4 that is ok to get around 10-15minutes.
sleeper move: Kevin Knox returns to compete for Obi's minutes. Maybe not on a guaranteed deal either.
Someone mentioned Gallo?
Were is Renaldo Balkman? He actually played on a Filipino team last season at age 38!
I think we do trade for Harden. He'll come cheaper than expected because of salary, age and 1 year left on his contract. Maybe Grimes, a 1st and a 2nd round pick will be enough.
Ira wrote:I think we do trade for Harden. He'll come cheaper than expected because of salary, age and 1 year left on his contract. Maybe Grimes, a 1st and a 2nd round pick will be enough.
Grimes and a first is not cheap. Or near close to what any GM would give up cause Harden an UFA
I’m not giving Grimes up for anyone at the moment.
He plays way above average defense and is the most under utilized player in the league. On a team with any motion he’s scoring 16 a game in his sleep. Big things are ahead.
MS wrote:I’m not giving Grimes up for anyone at the moment. He plays way above average defense and is the most under utilized player in the league. On a team with any motion he’s scoring 16 a game in his sleep. Big things are ahead.
If the FO manages to sign DiVincenzo, one or two of the rotation players needs to move to make the minutes for him. I think that will he between Grimes and IQ. I think IQ can turn out to be a very good NBA player. His ceiling might be higher than Grimes. I would rather keep IQ.
Il be ok with the FO to fully walk it back no additions that will demand playing time. I want to see how the young players develop and grow, if the team needs to upgrade, just do the necessary moves by the trade deadline
Ira wrote:I think we do trade for Harden. He'll come cheaper than expected because of salary, age and 1 year left on his contract. Maybe Grimes, a 1st and a 2nd round pick will be enough.
Philly is going to want way more than that. Harden is 33 and demands a trade every offseason the guy thinks he’s way too good for everybody
After today’s moves I’m thinking IQ or Grimes will be in a trade that likely gets us a small forward. Maybe OG though I think the Knicks tax would be prohibitive. And I’m guessing IQ before Grimes, financial reasons a factor.
foosballnick wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:KAT has my attention now. 1) Barrett, Fournier and Toppin for KAT and Jaden McDaniels. Assume we send some picks.
2) Mitch Robinson, IQ for OG Anunoby. Assume we send picks.
3) DDV for Full MLE
4) Biannual to Rokas.
Brunson/RokJok/McBride
Grimes/DDV
OG/Hart
Randle/JMac
KAT/Hart/ Sims
Locked and loaded.
How does that team stack up with tg new CBA ? Locked in tax wise ?
36 Kat
26 Brunson
28 Randle
18 OG
16? Hart
12.4 DDV
Hart 9.7
JMav 3.9
Grimes 2.2
About 162m this year when you add the other roster spots and two way contract. About 3mm under the tax. Going forward, you have extensions and such to watch but could potentially manage them with the tax and the apron rising pretty significantly. It’s pretty well situated here with some contracts decreasing in value.
With this roster cap problems will arise in '24 season. KAT jumps to $52M (and then between $55-$65 per season through '27-'28). Randle increases to $32. McDaniels will be an RFA and jump to $$11M+. Hart is rumored to be looking for $20M per extension. OG has a player option and could be looking at a $35M+ per season extension.
The new CBA put in a cap levelling component so you may only see perhaps up to 10% rises per season. With the proposed roster, Knicks will likely be over the 2nd apron in '24.
Valid points, I didn’t take KAT’s supermax into account. So, SuperApron is projected to be 190mm in 2024.
KAT 52mm
Randle 32mm
Brunson 25mm
OG 19mm
Hart 18mm
DDV 13mm
IHart 10+mm?
JMac 11mm
Grimes 4.2mm
I’m at 184 before finishing the roster or figuring for KAT’s continued increases or OG’s extension. You are probably right. But KAT becomes available to be traded on July 7… so we will see
