Knicks · Josh Hart opts into $12.9M contract (page 2)

Nalod @ 6/30/2023 1:41 PM
Donte is not a done deal so lets not get to fancy yet.
They opened up space to get it done and the rumors are nice.
That crowds things up a bit but we all fancied a consolidation trade for excess talent and picks. IQ and Grimes will factor in. Perhaps deuce as well.
LIke to see Rokas in SL and see whats there. They getting a new coach in Barcelona, maybe time for a change? Who knows.
MS @ 6/30/2023 4:03 PM
Bruce or Donte makes us a much better team.

Need lineups to split Randle, RJ and Brunson.

I can’t believe how many guys are against bringing in additional guard talent. I know we have a lot of depth, but I like the idea of lineups like the below.

Brunson, Donte, Grimes, Randle, Mitch

IQ, Barrett, Hart, Toppin, IHart

Thibs just needs how to figure it out and keep Randle and Brunson healthy.

LivingLegend @ 7/1/2023 11:46 PM
Interesting no word on new Hart deal yet - could they be waiting on a trade and then fit Hart contract in as needed post trade to get $ under 2nd tier cap?
martin @ 7/1/2023 11:49 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Interesting no word on new Hart deal yet - could they be waiting on a trade and then fit Hart contract in as needed post trade to get $ under 2nd tier cap?

He cannot be extended til later. Not sure why but I think date is Aug 1.

LivingLegend @ 7/2/2023 12:12 AM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Interesting no word on new Hart deal yet - could they be waiting on a trade and then fit Hart contract in as needed post trade to get $ under 2nd tier cap?

He cannot be extended til later. Not sure why but I think date is Aug 1.

That’s right 8/1 - forgot that.

LivingLegend @ 7/2/2023 12:13 AM
Any idea why the Obi trade has to wait a few days or are all trades having to wait a few days before final?
Caseloads @ 7/2/2023 6:02 AM
SergioNYK wrote:I like Hart but $80M seems like a lot for a bench role player. Hoping this doesn't mean we chose Hart over IQ or RJ.

Agreed. Most he is worth is 14 mil per, as a 7th man

Caseloads @ 7/2/2023 6:09 AM
fishmike wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Panos wrote:Yet another move this FO has orchestrated that shows they actually THINK about ways to make things work for the team. Unlike prior FOs that tripped over themselves to make terrible deals hamstringing the flexibility of the team.
Also, it's a two way street. Since the FO has displayed competence, the players are willing to be flexible to allow the team to make other moves to strengthen the roster.
Feels weird, don't it?

It's just a huge win for the culture. You can see down in Philly that Harden wants out because Morey promised him a big deal last summer to get Harden to opt out and sign at a lower deal to make room for Trez and PJ. Now Morey is balking on the deal (after a 10 year relationship) and Harden's response is get me out of here.

Josh is showing a lot of trust in the organization and that will continue to pay dividends as long as they are honest.

and Hart is a guy who's going to keep adding wrinkles in his game. When his shot isnt falling he played great D, gets to the rim and ends up having a 12 rebound game.

I am all for locking up IQ/Hart and running this thing back a few times.

Stay away from these 2nd tier stars who get paid like MVPs. We building a nice program here

Agree, do not pay non-mvp level guys super-max

Caseloads @ 7/2/2023 6:10 AM
gradyandrew wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:I like Hart but $80M seems like a lot for a bench role player. Hoping this doesn't mean we chose Hart over IQ or RJ.

The cap is set to explode. The last deal was for 25B over 10 years, the next one is supposed to be 75B. The current deal pays 2B a year or so. 2B/30/2 (revenue split) works out to 30M per team. So over the next 4 seasons, that number might climb by 60M, or about 200M per team. In that situation 20M would be equal to his 12m salary today.

Not sure if they still get that 75b deal and cap explodea

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