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Alpha1971 @ 7/27/2023 1:58 PM
Ever seen him on the show " Broad City " he has good comedy chops
blkexec @ 7/27/2023 4:04 PM
DLeethal wrote:Blake Griffin actually isn't a bad suggestion, as a guy who will ride the pine most nights and be OK with that, but can be useful when Randle gets injured or in early foul trouble and we need a prototypical 4 man.

Why not bring Melo back. Rather have Melo than Blake.

MaTT4281 @ 7/27/2023 4:37 PM
blkexec wrote:
DLeethal wrote:Blake Griffin actually isn't a bad suggestion, as a guy who will ride the pine most nights and be OK with that, but can be useful when Randle gets injured or in early foul trouble and we need a prototypical 4 man.

Why not bring Melo back. Rather have Melo than Blake.

Melo officially retired.

SergioNYK @ 7/27/2023 4:46 PM
Rather have Taj who can still defend.
blkexec @ 7/27/2023 5:48 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
blkexec wrote:
DLeethal wrote:Blake Griffin actually isn't a bad suggestion, as a guy who will ride the pine most nights and be OK with that, but can be useful when Randle gets injured or in early foul trouble and we need a prototypical 4 man.

Why not bring Melo back. Rather have Melo than Blake.

Melo officially retired.

Nobody is officially retired 😂. I like taj as well. He knows thibs and Thibs system.

Philc1 @ 7/28/2023 12:14 AM
ramtour420 wrote:Does he still have something left?

No

Philc1 @ 7/28/2023 12:15 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
DLeethal wrote:Brunson / IQ
Grimes / DD / IQ
RJ / Hart / Grimes
Randle / Hart / RJ
Mitch / iHart

That's the 9 man rotation / positional placements I would like us to stick to.

jHart is 6'4. Yeah, he can play tenacious D, but he is going to have problems with larger PFs. Randle is in foul trouble against Giannis and you are throwing Hart at him? They need to have some depth there. Its a hole.

Really not feeling the 4-Guard alignment which seems to be the plan for next season. Rebounding and low post defense still matter

Nalod @ 7/28/2023 8:43 AM
Philc1 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
DLeethal wrote:Brunson / IQ
Grimes / DD / IQ
RJ / Hart / Grimes
Randle / Hart / RJ
Mitch / iHart

That's the 9 man rotation / positional placements I would like us to stick to.

jHart is 6'4. Yeah, he can play tenacious D, but he is going to have problems with larger PFs. Randle is in foul trouble against Giannis and you are throwing Hart at him? They need to have some depth there. Its a hole.

Really not feeling the 4-Guard alignment which seems to be the plan for next season. Rebounding and low post defense still matter

Its july.

DLeethal @ 7/28/2023 8:44 AM
Don't really love Taj as a 4 or emergency Randle replacement.
martin @ 7/28/2023 9:11 AM
DLeethal wrote:Don't really love Taj as a 4 or emergency Randle replacement.

No one does but maybe that's why he is only emergency replacement.

Knixkik @ 7/28/2023 10:27 AM
I’d rather have Gibson than Griffin. I’d also rather have Trendon Watford than both of them but I’m sure he’s waiting for the right opportunity where he can play consistently.
Nalod @ 7/28/2023 10:40 AM
Rooting for Roby. He is a knick for now.
If FO finds a better alternative that falls out a roster, so beit.

Knicks may not be in line for a star but can help facilitate as a third team and profit from it.

Rookie @ 7/28/2023 10:50 AM
Nalod wrote:Rooting for Roby. He is a knick for now.
If FO finds a better alternative that falls out a roster, so beit.

Knicks may not be in line for a star but can help facilitate as a third team and profit from it.

I don't think they are going to exchange EF's expiring contract for anything less than a star player trade. With Brock Aller you know there is a long range salary cap plan. We could be in position to sign a FA in 2026 if we stay the course cap wise. 2026 has a very large and very good FA class

2026 NBA Free Agents
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/...

GustavBahler @ 7/28/2023 11:53 AM
Knixkik wrote:I’d rather have Gibson than Griffin. I’d also rather have Trendon Watford than both of them but I’m sure he’s waiting for the right opportunity where he can play consistently.

Gibson would have an easier time blending in, knowing Thibs, and how he does things. Natural leader.

Would prefer (if doable) someone who could start if Randle starts missing games. Not sure Gibson is up to the task at this point in his career.

BigDaddyG @ 7/28/2023 12:24 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I’d rather have Gibson than Griffin. I’d also rather have Trendon Watford than both of them but I’m sure he’s waiting for the right opportunity where he can play consistently.

Gibson would have an easier time blending in, knowing Thibs, and how he does things. Natural leader.

Would prefer (if doable) someone who could start if Randle starts missing games. Not sure Gibson is up to the task at this point in his career.

We had that in Obi and Thibs hardly played him. That's the conundrum. Any player on that level is not going to want to come here for 10 minutes a game. Unfortunately, that leaves us looking at vets like Taj or developmental guys who could pop like Knight and Sims.

GustavBahler @ 7/28/2023 5:02 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I’d rather have Gibson than Griffin. I’d also rather have Trendon Watford than both of them but I’m sure he’s waiting for the right opportunity where he can play consistently.

Gibson would have an easier time blending in, knowing Thibs, and how he does things. Natural leader.

Would prefer (if doable) someone who could start if Randle starts missing games. Not sure Gibson is up to the task at this point in his career.

We had that in Obi and Thibs hardly played him. That's the conundrum. Any player on that level is not going to want to come here for 10 minutes a game. Unfortunately, that leaves us looking at vets like Taj or developmental guys who could pop like Knight and Sims.

True, you have to hope that Obi's style of play had something to do with it. Maybe a player who checks more of Thibs boxes, would get more PT.

Believe its a mistake for Thibs (and the FO) to hitch their wagon to Randle next season. Expecting him to play like an ironman next season. Not after the multiple ankle injuries late last season.

Randle is almost 30, I will be pleasantly surprised if it doesnt cut into his availability next season. The FO can always trade for a quality backup. If an FA isnt interested. Hate to blow a good playoff run because of a lack of depth.

Chandler @ 7/29/2023 8:00 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Rookie wrote:y'all overlooking the obvious Taj Gibson reunion. We are holding the last spot through training camp but he is our guy if no-one shows out

Taj has.still got it. Would love to see him come back.

As long as we're realistic about what "it" is, I agree. He's definitely capable of filling the 12-15 mpg backup role, although I'd like to see Sims get some consideration. If he's OK without guaranteed minutes (wasn't that why he left for Washington?), bring him back!

I think losing DRose's presence in the locker room is a bigger hit than we've acknowledged. Taj's leadership would be very much welcomed.

The thing I like about Jericho Sims is his footwork. He closes out and stays in front of his man incredibly well for a big man. With IQ, DDV, jHart and iHart next to him, I think he is a fine candidate for 15 mins per game. I like his pairing with iHart a lot.

Spot on

Alpha1971 @ 7/29/2023 3:57 PM
Chandler wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Rookie wrote:y'all overlooking the obvious Taj Gibson reunion. We are holding the last spot through training camp but he is our guy if no-one shows out

Taj has.still got it. Would love to see him come back.

As long as we're realistic about what "it" is, I agree. He's definitely capable of filling the 12-15 mpg backup role, although I'd like to see Sims get some consideration. If he's OK without guaranteed minutes (wasn't that why he left for Washington?), bring him back!

I think losing DRose's presence in the locker room is a bigger hit than we've acknowledged. Taj's leadership would be very much welcomed.

The thing I like about Jericho Sims is his footwork. He closes out and stays in front of his man incredibly well for a big man. With IQ, DDV, jHart and iHart next to him, I think he is a fine candidate for 15 mins per game. I like his pairing with iHart a lot.

Spot on

Would love to see Jericho get the job. Can he just score cause if he can't keep the defense honest the opponent will scheme for him not being a threat and that will punish the other four Knicks on the floor. Yet, no rush, they can trade for PF or still sign one if needed. Plus draft one next season.

EwingsGlass @ 7/29/2023 10:55 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
Chandler wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Rookie wrote:y'all overlooking the obvious Taj Gibson reunion. We are holding the last spot through training camp but he is our guy if no-one shows out

Taj has.still got it. Would love to see him come back.

As long as we're realistic about what "it" is, I agree. He's definitely capable of filling the 12-15 mpg backup role, although I'd like to see Sims get some consideration. If he's OK without guaranteed minutes (wasn't that why he left for Washington?), bring him back!

I think losing DRose's presence in the locker room is a bigger hit than we've acknowledged. Taj's leadership would be very much welcomed.

The thing I like about Jericho Sims is his footwork. He closes out and stays in front of his man incredibly well for a big man. With IQ, DDV, jHart and iHart next to him, I think he is a fine candidate for 15 mins per game. I like his pairing with iHart a lot.

Spot on

Would love to see Jericho get the job. Can he just score cause if he can't keep the defense honest the opponent will scheme for him not being a threat and that will punish the other four Knicks on the floor. Yet, no rush, they can trade for PF or still sign one if needed. Plus draft one next season.

I mean, he can fly. So with IQ, DDV, Hart and Hart you have 4 solid passers next to him. If you don’t keep a body in front of him you get a highlight reel dunk. 6’10 with a 44” vertical? Can’t shoot a lick but I mean, neither can Robinson.

Alpha1971 @ 7/30/2023 8:09 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Chandler wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Rookie wrote:y'all overlooking the obvious Taj Gibson reunion. We are holding the last spot through training camp but he is our guy if no-one shows out

Taj has.still got it. Would love to see him come back.

As long as we're realistic about what "it" is, I agree. He's definitely capable of filling the 12-15 mpg backup role, although I'd like to see Sims get some consideration. If he's OK without guaranteed minutes (wasn't that why he left for Washington?), bring him back!

I think losing DRose's presence in the locker room is a bigger hit than we've acknowledged. Taj's leadership would be very much welcomed.

The thing I like about Jericho Sims is his footwork. He closes out and stays in front of his man incredibly well for a big man. With IQ, DDV, jHart and iHart next to him, I think he is a fine candidate for 15 mins per game. I like his pairing with iHart a lot.

Spot on

Would love to see Jericho get the job. Can he just score cause if he can't keep the defense honest the opponent will scheme for him not being a threat and that will punish the other four Knicks on the floor. Yet, no rush, they can trade for PF or still sign one if needed. Plus draft one next season.

I mean, he can fly. So with IQ, DDV, Hart and Hart you have 4 solid passers next to him. If you don’t keep a body in front of him you get a highlight reel dunk. 6’10 with a 44” vertical? Can’t shoot a lick but I mean, neither can Robinson.

Well if Heart can shoot the 3 at a decent clip then Jericho can take up the dunking role, but it would be great if he could hit a shot from 10-15 ft

blkexec @ 7/30/2023 8:53 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Chandler wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Rookie wrote:y'all overlooking the obvious Taj Gibson reunion. We are holding the last spot through training camp but he is our guy if no-one shows out

Taj has.still got it. Would love to see him come back.

As long as we're realistic about what "it" is, I agree. He's definitely capable of filling the 12-15 mpg backup role, although I'd like to see Sims get some consideration. If he's OK without guaranteed minutes (wasn't that why he left for Washington?), bring him back!

I think losing DRose's presence in the locker room is a bigger hit than we've acknowledged. Taj's leadership would be very much welcomed.

The thing I like about Jericho Sims is his footwork. He closes out and stays in front of his man incredibly well for a big man. With IQ, DDV, jHart and iHart next to him, I think he is a fine candidate for 15 mins per game. I like his pairing with iHart a lot.

Spot on

Would love to see Jericho get the job. Can he just score cause if he can't keep the defense honest the opponent will scheme for him not being a threat and that will punish the other four Knicks on the floor. Yet, no rush, they can trade for PF or still sign one if needed. Plus draft one next season.

I mean, he can fly. So with IQ, DDV, Hart and Hart you have 4 solid passers next to him. If you don’t keep a body in front of him you get a highlight reel dunk. 6’10 with a 44” vertical? Can’t shoot a lick but I mean, neither can Robinson.

Well if Heart can shoot the 3 at a decent clip then Jericho can take up the dunking role, but it would be great if he could hit a shot from 10-15 ft

Sims one main weakness that hurts his PF potential is guarding the 3 pt shooters. He sags like a typical center and doesn’t look comfortable guarding near 3 pt line. But if he’s guarding a PF slasher or any slasher without a pull-up, he’s one of the best centers with great lateral quickness.

But guarding that 3 as a big man is more on Kevin garnet or yannus level and that’s not sims (yet) as far as his defensive agility. But playing next to a center I can see him learning to trust his quickness and guard the 3 pt line. He’s closer to Randles height than Mitch so he can develop that skill over time.

Todays PF is yesterdays SF. That’s why my prediction is thibs will use Hart and even RJ to guard some PFs. Then you mix and match sims depending on the PF matchups throughout the game. BUT This level of flexibility is what worries me the most with thibs.

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