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Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Rookie wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Nalod wrote:Frank was a cult for hope.Yeah, but turns out Deuce is better. Where are the McBride cult members?
They are similar as far as their skillset. But I dont believe Deuce believed his own hype like Frank did. Deuce is going to push himself.
Trey Burke's first game as a Knick (after volunteering for G-league). Trey had one of the best starts Ive ever seen for the Knicks. Everybody on the bench was jumping up and down, smiling, screaming, as he got subbed out. Everyone except Frank who had a scowl on his face. All I needed to know about Frank as a player.
What I remember about Frank was he would have a great game and then play underwhelming the next few games then get injuredPulled groin shaming?
Pulled groin shaming has an ugly history in this country. Glad someone spoke out!
Frank did get hurt a lot. He was never known as a player who made quick cuts, broke ankles. Frank would have a game or two where he was more aggressive, but his body didnt seem to be able to handle more than that.
Spent a lot of time training offseason with the same crew in France, who didnt do anything for Frank's game or conditioning. Didnt come off as a player interested in pushing the envelope. Liked playing it safe.
Impressive how much you know about frank, whats in his head, and his offseason activities and drew conclusions.
In 4 years, age 18-22 he never changed. All you need to know about a person in one 4 year span.
My take? He never fulfilled his promise as a knick. Not as a lazy frenchman, but his offensive game never developed. He had 4 coaches? He was here in a time of turmoil.
Often we paint a player with names and as a villain so its easier.
Deuce love is we root for a 2nd round player than the 8th seed. We could have had Donovan Mitchel after Frank, Dennis, and Monk!
Frank believed his own hype? Kid did a lot in france as a 17 year old and from humble background has made 22million dollars thus far.
I hope he succeeds and carves out a nice career here or abroad.
Glad Frank got rich. Not so much getting there as the 8th pick. Very frustrating player to watch. I dont know everything in Frank's head. But I knew he wasnt the player that you and other fans said he was. So I guess I know him better than you! 
GustavBahler wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meDidnt know you were into T&F
Supreme's disgust disgusts me. Its really..disgusting.
Shameless! 
ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts me
The girl in lane 2 had too much dragging in the back. Her greatest gift is her biggest detriment. 
BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meThe girl in lane 2 had too much dragging in the back. Her greatest gift is her biggest detriment.
Too much dragging her back.. absurd logic. I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican and I remind you to look at the Jamaican women sprinters, the back excess gives them the muscle to run faster and break records. You need to listen to the classic song by Sir Mix A Lot.
ToddTT wrote:GustavBahler wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meDidnt know you were into T&F
Supreme's disgust disgusts me. Its really..disgusting.
Shameless!
I’m disgusted with Supreme as well.
GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Rookie wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Nalod wrote:Frank was a cult for hope.Yeah, but turns out Deuce is better. Where are the McBride cult members?
They are similar as far as their skillset. But I dont believe Deuce believed his own hype like Frank did. Deuce is going to push himself.
Trey Burke's first game as a Knick (after volunteering for G-league). Trey had one of the best starts Ive ever seen for the Knicks. Everybody on the bench was jumping up and down, smiling, screaming, as he got subbed out. Everyone except Frank who had a scowl on his face. All I needed to know about Frank as a player.
What I remember about Frank was he would have a great game and then play underwhelming the next few games then get injuredPulled groin shaming?
Pulled groin shaming has an ugly history in this country. Glad someone spoke out!
Frank did get hurt a lot. He was never known as a player who made quick cuts, broke ankles. Frank would have a game or two where he was more aggressive, but his body didnt seem to be able to handle more than that.
Spent a lot of time training offseason with the same crew in France, who didnt do anything for Frank's game or conditioning. Didnt come off as a player interested in pushing the envelope. Liked playing it safe.
Impressive how much you know about frank, whats in his head, and his offseason activities and drew conclusions.
In 4 years, age 18-22 he never changed. All you need to know about a person in one 4 year span.
My take? He never fulfilled his promise as a knick. Not as a lazy frenchman, but his offensive game never developed. He had 4 coaches? He was here in a time of turmoil.
Often we paint a player with names and as a villain so its easier.
Deuce love is we root for a 2nd round player than the 8th seed. We could have had Donovan Mitchel after Frank, Dennis, and Monk!
Frank believed his own hype? Kid did a lot in france as a 17 year old and from humble background has made 22million dollars thus far.
I hope he succeeds and carves out a nice career here or abroad.Glad Frank got rich. Not so much getting there as the 8th pick. Very frustrating player to watch. I dont know everything in Frank's head. But I knew he wasnt the player that you and other fans said he was. So I guess I know him better than you!
My hope was he’d put it together. You get a sense if vindication for being correct and boast about it years later.
Perhaps thats not intentional but its part of the “Hate” that is seen? Maybe?
End of the day some enjoy when a player bounces and they get to say “Told you so”.
To be fair, when a poster says “he’ll never play again in the NBA”, and he does, I do find that amusing.
1248 loved to hate on Frank and made similar proclamation.
I enjoy winning as much as anyone but “Hating” on players or ex-players because any future success would make us feel “Silly” is a waste in my bloated opinion.
Facts are draft picks don’t pan out. Knicks are not the only team that this happens to.
Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meThe girl in lane 2 had too much dragging in the back. Her greatest gift is her biggest detriment.
Too much dragging her back.. absurd logic. I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican and I remind you to look at the Jamaican women sprinters, the back excess gives them the muscle to run faster and break records. You need to listen to the classic song by Sir Mix A Lot.
Yeah, but that thing back there ain't all muscle, which is good because I prefer more jiggle. 
I think she came in last or second to last so something is holding her back. She got too choose between aesthetics and performance.
BigDaddyG wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meThe girl in lane 2 had too much dragging in the back. Her greatest gift is her biggest detriment.
Too much dragging her back.. absurd logic. I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican and I remind you to look at the Jamaican women sprinters, the back excess gives them the muscle to run faster and break records. You need to listen to the classic song by Sir Mix A Lot.
Yeah, but that thing back there ain't all muscle, which is good because I prefer more jiggle.
Stop body shaming women. Let's see your photo and let's have women evaluate it, shall we ? Me they come nice in all sizes.
Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meThe girl in lane 2 had too much dragging in the back. Her greatest gift is her biggest detriment.
Too much dragging her back.. absurd logic. I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican and I remind you to look at the Jamaican women sprinters, the back excess gives them the muscle to run faster and break records. You need to listen to the classic song by Sir Mix A Lot.
Yeah, but that thing back there ain't all muscle, which is good because I prefer more jiggle.
Stop body shaming women. Let's see your photo and let's have women evaluate it, shall we ? Me they come nice in all sizes.
You call it shaming, I call it appreciation. I don't agree they come nice in all sizes. I think some sizes are way too big, but your preferences are between you and your God. I'm not saying you're into the Lizzo sized angels out there, but if you were, I wouldn't judge.
BigDaddyG wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meThe girl in lane 2 had too much dragging in the back. Her greatest gift is her biggest detriment.
Too much dragging her back.. absurd logic. I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican and I remind you to look at the Jamaican women sprinters, the back excess gives them the muscle to run faster and break records. You need to listen to the classic song by Sir Mix A Lot.
Yeah, but that thing back there ain't all muscle, which is good because I prefer more jiggle.
Stop body shaming women. Let's see your photo and let's have women evaluate it, shall we ? Me they come nice in all sizes.
You call it shaming, I call it appreciation. I don't agree they come nice in all sizes. I think some sizes are way too big, but your preferences are between you and your God. I'm not saying you're into the Lizzo sized angels out there, but if you were, I wouldn't judge.
From Twiggy to Lizzo, why not. But the point I made is let's see your photo so we can evaluate as we evaluate the females. Me I'm ugly as old cabbage. So I may appreciate women and therefore never disparage cause I'm not anyone. So I'm not really arguing just adding the voice of what a woman might say for balance. Let's see your pics. . Me I already admit I am old ugly fuc. It's all in good fun 😁😊
Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Rookie wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Nalod wrote:Frank was a cult for hope.Yeah, but turns out Deuce is better. Where are the McBride cult members?
They are similar as far as their skillset. But I dont believe Deuce believed his own hype like Frank did. Deuce is going to push himself.
Trey Burke's first game as a Knick (after volunteering for G-league). Trey had one of the best starts Ive ever seen for the Knicks. Everybody on the bench was jumping up and down, smiling, screaming, as he got subbed out. Everyone except Frank who had a scowl on his face. All I needed to know about Frank as a player.
What I remember about Frank was he would have a great game and then play underwhelming the next few games then get injuredPulled groin shaming?
Pulled groin shaming has an ugly history in this country. Glad someone spoke out!
Frank did get hurt a lot. He was never known as a player who made quick cuts, broke ankles. Frank would have a game or two where he was more aggressive, but his body didnt seem to be able to handle more than that.
Spent a lot of time training offseason with the same crew in France, who didnt do anything for Frank's game or conditioning. Didnt come off as a player interested in pushing the envelope. Liked playing it safe.
Impressive how much you know about frank, whats in his head, and his offseason activities and drew conclusions.
In 4 years, age 18-22 he never changed. All you need to know about a person in one 4 year span.
My take? He never fulfilled his promise as a knick. Not as a lazy frenchman, but his offensive game never developed. He had 4 coaches? He was here in a time of turmoil.
Often we paint a player with names and as a villain so its easier.
Deuce love is we root for a 2nd round player than the 8th seed. We could have had Donovan Mitchel after Frank, Dennis, and Monk!
Frank believed his own hype? Kid did a lot in france as a 17 year old and from humble background has made 22million dollars thus far.
I hope he succeeds and carves out a nice career here or abroad.Glad Frank got rich. Not so much getting there as the 8th pick. Very frustrating player to watch. I dont know everything in Frank's head. But I knew he wasnt the player that you and other fans said he was. So I guess I know him better than you!
My hope was he’d put it together. You get a sense if vindication for being correct and boast about it years later.
Perhaps thats not intentional but its part of the “Hate” that is seen? Maybe?
End of the day some enjoy when a player bounces and they get to say “Told you so”.
To be fair, when a poster says “he’ll never play again in the NBA”, and he does, I do find that amusing.
1248 loved to hate on Frank and made similar proclamation.
I enjoy winning as much as anyone but “Hating” on players or ex-players because any future success would make us feel “Silly” is a waste in my bloated opinion.Facts are draft picks don’t pan out. Knicks are not the only team that this happens to.
Just a gentle reminder Nalod, that while some of us where pointing out that the emperor had no clothes, you were complimenting Phil's three piece suit.
Not gloating. Just pointing out that you often challenge your fellow posters qualifications to express an opinion on any aspect of the NBA. I shouldnt have to remind you that we dont need any. Its a Knicks message board.
You avoided doing this for the better part of last season, and it was great. We finally got to hear you talking hoops and not about other posters, like 1248. He is/wasnt exactly fan friendly, but he didnt deserve the treatment. Nobody does.
We have a lot of new posters who want to talk about the Knicks, not 1248, or the next victim.
GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Rookie wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Nalod wrote:Frank was a cult for hope.Yeah, but turns out Deuce is better. Where are the McBride cult members?
They are similar as far as their skillset. But I dont believe Deuce believed his own hype like Frank did. Deuce is going to push himself.
Trey Burke's first game as a Knick (after volunteering for G-league). Trey had one of the best starts Ive ever seen for the Knicks. Everybody on the bench was jumping up and down, smiling, screaming, as he got subbed out. Everyone except Frank who had a scowl on his face. All I needed to know about Frank as a player.
What I remember about Frank was he would have a great game and then play underwhelming the next few games then get injuredPulled groin shaming?
Pulled groin shaming has an ugly history in this country. Glad someone spoke out!
Frank did get hurt a lot. He was never known as a player who made quick cuts, broke ankles. Frank would have a game or two where he was more aggressive, but his body didnt seem to be able to handle more than that.
Spent a lot of time training offseason with the same crew in France, who didnt do anything for Frank's game or conditioning. Didnt come off as a player interested in pushing the envelope. Liked playing it safe.
Impressive how much you know about frank, whats in his head, and his offseason activities and drew conclusions.
In 4 years, age 18-22 he never changed. All you need to know about a person in one 4 year span.
My take? He never fulfilled his promise as a knick. Not as a lazy frenchman, but his offensive game never developed. He had 4 coaches? He was here in a time of turmoil.
Often we paint a player with names and as a villain so its easier.
Deuce love is we root for a 2nd round player than the 8th seed. We could have had Donovan Mitchel after Frank, Dennis, and Monk!
Frank believed his own hype? Kid did a lot in france as a 17 year old and from humble background has made 22million dollars thus far.
I hope he succeeds and carves out a nice career here or abroad.Glad Frank got rich. Not so much getting there as the 8th pick. Very frustrating player to watch. I dont know everything in Frank's head. But I knew he wasnt the player that you and other fans said he was. So I guess I know him better than you!
My hope was he’d put it together. You get a sense if vindication for being correct and boast about it years later.
Perhaps thats not intentional but its part of the “Hate” that is seen? Maybe?
End of the day some enjoy when a player bounces and they get to say “Told you so”.
To be fair, when a poster says “he’ll never play again in the NBA”, and he does, I do find that amusing.
1248 loved to hate on Frank and made similar proclamation.
I enjoy winning as much as anyone but “Hating” on players or ex-players because any future success would make us feel “Silly” is a waste in my bloated opinion.Facts are draft picks don’t pan out. Knicks are not the only team that this happens to.
Just a gentle reminder Nalod, that while some of us where pointing out that the emperor had no clothes, you were complimenting Phil's three piece suit.
Not gloating. Just pointing out that you often challenge your fellow posters qualifications to express an opinion on any aspect of the NBA. I shouldnt have to remind you that we dont need any. Its a Knicks message board.
You avoided doing this for the better part of last season, and it was great. We finally got to hear you talking hoops and not about other posters, like 1248. He is/wasnt exactly fan friendly, but he didnt deserve the treatment. Nobody does.
We have a lot of new posters who want to talk about the Knicks, not 1248, or the next victim.
Your gloating.
Make shit up and I challenge. Not that I changed my stripes. The covo's flowed as we won more.
I think we only had one poster whose brief posts left out way too much context, it was all good.
Thats not what we doing here btw. You like to mix it up as much as anyone.
Hey, gloating feels good right?
Yes, "HATE" is a four letter word. And there is a thin line between that and love. At least, thats what the song says.
Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:This thread disgusts meThe girl in lane 2 had too much dragging in the back. Her greatest gift is her biggest detriment.
Too much dragging her back.. absurd logic. I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican and I remind you to look at the Jamaican women sprinters, the back excess gives them the muscle to run faster and break records. You need to listen to the classic song by Sir Mix A Lot.
Yeah, but that thing back there ain't all muscle, which is good because I prefer more jiggle.
Stop body shaming women. Let's see your photo and let's have women evaluate it, shall we ? Me they come nice in all sizes.
You call it shaming, I call it appreciation. I don't agree they come nice in all sizes. I think some sizes are way too big, but your preferences are between you and your God. I'm not saying you're into the Lizzo sized angels out there, but if you were, I wouldn't judge.
From Twiggy to Lizzo, why not. But the point I made is let's see your photo so we can evaluate as we evaluate the females. Me I'm ugly as old cabbage. So I may appreciate women and therefore never disparage cause I'm not anyone. So I'm not really arguing just adding the voice of what a woman might say for balance. Let's see your pics. . Me I already admit I am old ugly fuc. It's all in good fun 😁😊
Ok, but the point I was making is that although I think the athlete in question is attractive, it's questionable whether her fitness level was up to snuff. And she nearly came in last place, so it's not like my observation came from out of the blue. We do the same thing with Zion and other athletes. Are you saying the line moves for female athletes?