Knicks · GameThread: Benchmark game at Boston, 730 (page 3)

Josiah31 @ 11/13/2023 10:06 PM
Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.
LivingLegend @ 11/13/2023 10:12 PM
Mitch vs KP matchup in 2 games…

Points. KP 52 - Mitch 6
Rebounds. KP 12 - Mitch 14
Blocks. KP 5 - Mitch 2
+/- KP +32 - Mitch -13

Houston we have a problem

LivingLegend @ 11/13/2023 10:15 PM
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

LivingLegend @ 11/13/2023 10:16 PM
Celtics Achilles heel is depth - we are going to have to hope they get some major boo boo’s along the way.
martin @ 11/13/2023 10:27 PM
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

Lol

martin @ 11/13/2023 10:28 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

Holy crap, this is a thing?

Rookie @ 11/13/2023 10:29 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

With the new rules you can’t rest players without penalty. This could be one of those migraines that only happen to payers with knee soreness on the second night of a back2back.

LivingLegend @ 11/13/2023 10:38 PM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

Holy crap, this is a thing?

Oh man I go off the deep end and I get them at the worst times —- when under stress.

LivingLegend @ 11/13/2023 10:39 PM
Rookie wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

With the new rules you can’t rest players without penalty. This could be one of those migraines that only happen to payers with knee soreness on the second night of a back2back.

Yes - that was actually my 1st thought resting his knee on back to back and bet you are correct on the migraine excuse.

martin @ 11/13/2023 10:40 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

Holy crap, this is a thing?

Oh man I go off the deep end and I get them at the worst times —- when under stress.

Like when the Knicks play?

LivingLegend @ 11/13/2023 10:51 PM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

Holy crap, this is a thing?

Oh man I go off the deep end and I get them at the worst times —- when under stress.

Like when the Knicks play?

Julius specifically has me reaching for meds.

martin @ 11/13/2023 11:18 PM
Boston just more talented. But the Knicks aren’t far behind, they can level up.
Knixkik @ 11/13/2023 11:42 PM
martin wrote:Boston just more talented. But the Knicks aren’t far behind, they can level up.

My thoughts exactly.

blkexec @ 11/14/2023 12:24 AM
martin wrote:Boston just more talented. But the Knicks aren’t far behind, they can level up.

I saw a lot of positives from players to Thibs. Plus with RJ we win. Therefore WE GOOD!

ToddTT @ 11/14/2023 6:36 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
Josiah31 wrote:Hopefully Barrett has his tampons in next time we play.

As a migraine sufferer who has to hide in a dark room and vomit for about 48 hours before I recover —- going to cut RJ some slack and hope he gets better.

What’s weird is these are typically a pattern/recurring thing but don’t remember RJ having migraine before.

When I initially heard RJ/Frenchy out a trade crossed my mind but assume I’m dead wrong.

Holy crap, this is a thing?

Oh man I go off the deep end and I get them at the worst times —- when under stress.

Like when the Knicks play?

Julius specifically has me reaching for meds.

I used to get migraines all the time. Have pulled over in my car and puked in the road. Good times.

Realized I was not drinking enough water, and drinking too much caffeine.

nycericanguy @ 11/14/2023 7:22 AM
LivingLegend wrote:Mitch vs KP matchup in 2 games…

Points. KP 52 - Mitch 6
Rebounds. KP 12 - Mitch 14
Blocks. KP 5 - Mitch 2
+/- KP +32 - Mitch -13

Houston we have a problem

KP killed us, 21 points on 11 shots, game high +19. He makes it much harder to cover P&R's. Without KP we probably beat BOS twice already. I said before he's a game changer and he was available for pretty cheap.

We messed up not trading for him, KP & Mitch could have been a great two headed monster at C that gives you different looks. instead we let BOS reach another level.

blkexec @ 11/14/2023 7:57 AM
nycericanguy wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Mitch vs KP matchup in 2 games…

Points. KP 52 - Mitch 6
Rebounds. KP 12 - Mitch 14
Blocks. KP 5 - Mitch 2
+/- KP +32 - Mitch -13

Houston we have a problem

KP killed us, 21 points on 11 shots, game high +19. He makes it much harder to cover P&R's. Without KP we probably beat BOS twice already. I said before he's a game changer and he was available for pretty cheap.

We messed up not trading for him, KP & Mitch could have been a great two headed monster at C that gives you different looks. instead we let BOS reach another level.

Similar to Towns. Can you trust them to stay healthy. So far we have pushed all the right buttons. And KP would’ve looked different on this team under this fan base pressure, vs Boston who has an established culture with 2 way NBA stars in Tatum and Brown. KP is 3rd on the pecking order and under less stress.

nycericanguy @ 11/14/2023 8:08 AM
blkexec wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Mitch vs KP matchup in 2 games…

Points. KP 52 - Mitch 6
Rebounds. KP 12 - Mitch 14
Blocks. KP 5 - Mitch 2
+/- KP +32 - Mitch -13

Houston we have a problem

KP killed us, 21 points on 11 shots, game high +19. He makes it much harder to cover P&R's. Without KP we probably beat BOS twice already. I said before he's a game changer and he was available for pretty cheap.

We messed up not trading for him, KP & Mitch could have been a great two headed monster at C that gives you different looks. instead we let BOS reach another level.

Similar to Towns. Can you trust them to stay healthy. So far we have pushed all the right buttons. And KP would’ve looked different on this team under this fan base pressure, vs Boston who has an established culture with 2 way NBA stars in Tatum and Brown. KP is 3rd on the pecking order and under less stress.

this is a tired and rather weak argument. Past 3 seasons

Mitch has played 162 games and 4,290 minutes.
KP is at 159 and 4,927 minutes

So by this logic we shouldn't want Mitch either? Mitch might miss 20 games this year but he's a huge part of our success regardless.

Played get injured, players miss games, but 50-60 games from KP helps you win games, period. Teams always have to hope they are healthy come playoff time, but if they are, BOS can win it all.

It was a great low risk/high reward move. I mean WSH got Tyes Jones and the #35 pick for KP, we could have easily beat that.

we were the perfect deep team that could take KP and not rely on him too much, same as BOS. KP would have been a 4th/5th guy here during the season. But he's a game changer on both ends and in games that really matter he can easily be your #2.

bottom line is there are never guarantees, but KP is a guy that could have unlocked a completely different level for us and raised our ceiling, without costing much, and would have made our rival BOS significantly weaker.

Clean @ 11/14/2023 8:36 AM
I missed the game but I see Quick had another rough night vs an elite team. 1 - 10 Fgs is looking a lot like the playoffs. These are the games I remembered when I was fine with not giving him whatever he wanted. Quick can get stats vs bad teams like the Hornets but we need to see that vs elite teams.
nycericanguy @ 11/14/2023 8:39 AM
for me its a bit frustrating b/c while the FO has done a great job overall, I think they've missed out on some real good chances, we've missed the layups that could have really sped up the rebuild.

Drafting Obi and not making a play for KP I think were two such huge obvious misses. we play it a bit too safe sometimes.

Moonangie @ 11/14/2023 9:10 AM
blkexec wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Mitch vs KP matchup in 2 games…

Points. KP 52 - Mitch 6
Rebounds. KP 12 - Mitch 14
Blocks. KP 5 - Mitch 2
+/- KP +32 - Mitch -13

Houston we have a problem

KP killed us, 21 points on 11 shots, game high +19. He makes it much harder to cover P&R's. Without KP we probably beat BOS twice already. I said before he's a game changer and he was available for pretty cheap.

We messed up not trading for him, KP & Mitch could have been a great two headed monster at C that gives you different looks. instead we let BOS reach another level.

Similar to Towns. Can you trust them to stay healthy. So far we have pushed all the right buttons. And KP would’ve looked different on this team under this fan base pressure, vs Boston who has an established culture with 2 way NBA stars in Tatum and Brown. KP is 3rd on the pecking order and under less stress.

This is a critical point that illustrates how soon we forget what distinguishes playing in NYC from other markets. There's something about the pressure of the bright lights, big stage that makes stellar players blanch when they have an off night or get injured. The compounding affect of that on a player's psyche means some with fragile egos are not a good fit here. And KP has already proven to be too thin-skinned to thrive here.

No sense double dipping on a known quantity. Hard pass!

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