Knicks · [Game Thread 11/30/23 @ 7:30PM] Knicks vs Pistons (page 1)

SergioNYK @ 11/30/2023 9:11 AM

GustavBahler @ 11/30/2023 9:16 AM
Knox is averaging 10 and 4 for the Pistons. Glad its working for him somewhere.

Cade Cunningham is supposed to be the league leader in turnovers, so I hope we gets some easy buckets in transition.

BigDaddyG @ 11/30/2023 9:41 AM
You think Knicks fandom has hit some low points? I think all of Pistons Reddit might be on suicide watch.
SergioNYK @ 11/30/2023 9:43 AM
If you come across any Knicks fan who cries about this being a mid team and how we should tank, point them to the Detroit Pistons. The lesson here? Tanking doesn't work. Sometimes it does, like Spurs with Duncan, Cavs with LeBron and Spurs again with Wemby but most of the time it doesn't work.
martin @ 11/30/2023 10:27 AM
Always with my thanks for creating Sergio (and others).
martin @ 11/30/2023 10:29 AM
martin @ 11/30/2023 11:03 AM
Jesus, another back to back?

Chandler @ 11/30/2023 11:36 AM
No pity until after the game

Can't let our guard down

ToddTT @ 11/30/2023 12:42 PM
martin wrote:

They lose by a lot. So they’ll probably only beat us by a little.

LivingLegend @ 11/30/2023 12:58 PM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:

They lose by a lot. So they’ll probably only beat us by a little.

Piston’s seem to be quitting on Monty W very early —- especially 4 of last 5 they’ve just stopped defending.

I think they have a lot of talent - they were playing tough early and Duren went down with ankle and wheels never seemed to come back on. Not as big a fan of Monty as some.

The Thompson kid is ELITE ELITE athlete - top of the food chain.

Outside of big names I think Knicks will look to Bogey in Detroit and maybe also I Stewart

Nalod @ 11/30/2023 2:17 PM
Jaden Ivy career not starting out like one would have hoped.
I know we tried to move up to draft him but there was a price and Leon did not want to pay it.
Fans railed him a bit for it but this was the start of last season, or the draft was spring of 2022. We had plenty of yoot already.
Ivey might be fine longer term.
Detroit needs to do what Rockets did with infusing some vet players. Its why Bojan Bogdanović might be kept?

seems we come to town and trade rumors start among the fan.
His contract has a 2mil partial guarantee then full for 19mil. He'll be 35 by seasons end.
Granted, he can get his 2mil then resign for a smaller amount. I doubt that happens in Detroit.
Why do we talk about Miami so much when they have duncan Robinson?
Its a clean fit for us with Evan for salary, but do I really add a no. 1 pick? Will they use Evan?

LivingLegend @ 11/30/2023 2:31 PM
Nalod wrote:Jaden Ivy career not starting out like one would have hoped.
I know we tried to move up to draft him but there was a price and Leon did not want to pay it.
Fans railed him a bit for it but this was the start of last season, or the draft was spring of 2022. We had plenty of yoot already.
Ivey might be fine longer term.
Detroit needs to do what Rockets did with infusing some vet players. Its why Bojan Bogdanović might be kept?

seems we come to town and trade rumors start among the fan.
His contract has a 2mil partial guarantee then full for 19mil. He'll be 35 by seasons end.
Granted, he can get his 2mil then resign for a smaller amount. I doubt that happens in Detroit.
Why do we talk about Miami so much when they have duncan Robinson?
Its a clean fit for us with Evan for salary, but do I really add a no. 1 pick? Will they use Evan?

Duncan Robinson?

Nalod @ 11/30/2023 2:39 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
Nalod wrote:Jaden Ivy career not starting out like one would have hoped.
I know we tried to move up to draft him but there was a price and Leon did not want to pay it.
Fans railed him a bit for it but this was the start of last season, or the draft was spring of 2022. We had plenty of yoot already.
Ivey might be fine longer term.
Detroit needs to do what Rockets did with infusing some vet players. Its why Bojan Bogdanović might be kept?

seems we come to town and trade rumors start among the fan.
His contract has a 2mil partial guarantee then full for 19mil. He'll be 35 by seasons end.
Granted, he can get his 2mil then resign for a smaller amount. I doubt that happens in Detroit.
Why do we talk about Miami so much when they have duncan Robinson?
Its a clean fit for us with Evan for salary, but do I really add a no. 1 pick? Will they use Evan?

Duncan Robinson?

Sorry, in the context that we need to cockblock Miami from getting Bojan because he'd shoot the lights out.
Duncan Avg 14pts a game this season. 43% from 3.

ToddTT @ 11/30/2023 5:17 PM
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EAST W L PCT GB STRK L10 HOME AWAY PPG OPPG DIFF
-------- -- -- ----- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----
1 Boston 14 4 0.778 - W2 8-2 8-0 6-4 116.3 106.7 9.6
2 Orlando 13 5 0.722 1 W8 9-1 8-2 5-3 114.1 108.1 6.0
3 Milwaukee 13 5 0.722 1 W3 8-2 8-1 5-4 120.9 117.8 3.1
4 Philadelphia 12 6 0.667 2 L1 5-5 7-3 5-3 120.2 112.4 7.8

5 New York 10 7 0.588 3.5 W1 7-3 5-3 5-4 110.0 105.1 4.9

6 Indiana 9 7 0.563 4 L1 6-4 6-5 3-2 127.6 124.8 2.8
7 Miami 10 8 0.556 4 L3 6-4 4-2 6-6 110.6 109.1 1.5
8 Cleveland 10 8 0.556 4 W2 7-3 5-5 5-3 111.7 112.2 -0.5
9 Brooklyn 9 8 0.529 4.5 W3 6-4 6-4 3-4 115.3 113.9 1.4
10 Toronto 9 10 0.474 5.5 W1 5-5 6-4 3-6 111.5 112.2 -0.7
11 Atlanta 8 9 0.471 5.5 L2 4-6 3-5 5-4 122.5 121.5 1.0
12 Charlotte 5 11 0.313 8 L2 3-7 3-6 2-5 112.7 121.8 -9.1
13 Chicago 5 14 0.263 9.5 L5 2-8 4-6 1-8 106.2 112.8 -6.6
14 Washington 3 15 0.167 11 L1 1-9 1-6 2-9 116.3 124.8 -8.5
15 Detroit 2 16 0.111 12 L15 0-10 1-8 1-8 109.4 118.6 -9.2

WEST W L PCT GB STRK L10 HOME AWAY PPG OPPG DIFF
-------- -- -- ----- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----
1 Minnesota 13 4 0.765 - W2 8-2 8-1 5-3 112.9 106.2 6.7
2 Denver 13 6 0.684 1 W3 5-5 9-0 4-6 114.2 109.7 4.5
3 Dallas 11 6 0.647 2 W1 5-5 5-2 6-4 119.5 118.1 1.4
4 Oklahoma City 11 6 0.647 2 L2 7-3 5-4 6-2 118.6 110.9 7.7
5 Phoenix 11 7 0.611 2.5 L1 7-3 4-4 7-3 116.4 113.2 3.2
6 Sacramento 10 7 0.588 3 L1 7-3 5-2 5-5 116.1 116.7 -0.6
7 Los Angeles 11 8 0.579 3 W1 7-3 7-2 4-6 112.9 113.3 -0.4
8 New Orleans 10 9 0.526 4 W1 6-4 7-4 3-5 113.4 113.0 0.4
9 Houston 8 8 0.5 4.5 L2 5-5 8-1 0-7 110.9 107.3 3.6
10 Los Angeles 8 9 0.471 5 W1 5-5 5-3 3-6 112.9 108.9 4.0
11 Golden State 8 10 0.444 5.5 L1 2-8 3-6 5-4 114.7 114.6 0.1
12 Utah 6 12 0.333 7.5 L1 4-6 5-4 1-8 112.9 119.7 -6.8
13 Portland 5 12 0.294 8 W1 2-8 2-5 3-7 104.8 112.5 -7.7
14 Memphis 4 13 0.235 9 W1 3-7 1-8 3-5 105.6 112.7 -7.1
15 San Antonio 3 14 0.176 10 L12 0-10 1-8 2-6 110.5 123.4 -12.9

martin @ 11/30/2023 5:41 PM
Important update

martin @ 11/30/2023 5:51 PM
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