Knicks · [Game Thread 12/5/23 @ 7:30PM] *In-Season Tournament East Quarter Finals* Knicks at Bucks, TNT & MSG (page 7)

NYknick4life @ 12/6/2023 12:18 PM
ToddTT wrote:Outplayed, out-coached, out-mathed.

When you let a team hit 23 3-pointers and you cannot defend the 3, you are going to lose. Plain and simple! Stop The Help Defense and play your man, giving up too many open 3s.

BigDaddyG @ 12/6/2023 12:24 PM
martin wrote:

Randle's was studying JB's tape while rehabbing the ankle. The footwork looks more refined. It's like he woke one morning, looked in the mirror and said to himself:"What would happen if I didn't spin?"

martin @ 12/6/2023 12:55 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:

Randle's was studying JB's tape while rehabbing the ankle. The footwork looks more refined. It's like he woke one morning, looked in the mirror and said to himself:"What would happen if I didn't spin?"

No spin, no spin-overs

BigDaddyG @ 12/6/2023 3:36 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:

Randle's was studying JB's tape while rehabbing the ankle. The footwork looks more refined. It's like he woke one morning, looked in the mirror and said to himself:"What would happen if I didn't spin?"

No spin, no spin-overs


One thing that I noticed the past two weeks is he and RJ are making good use of Jalen's sweep through move. It's a subtle thing, but it causes the defender to freeze up just a bit and makes it harder to time the shot.
blkexec @ 12/6/2023 4:04 PM
NYknick4life wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Outplayed, out-coached, out-mathed.

When you let a team hit 23 3-pointers and you cannot defend the 3, you are going to lose. Plain and simple! Stop The Help Defense and play your man, giving up too many open 3s.

Different players same problems. Open 3s. Lack of wing length hurts. We not only short, we have short arms. No length except for Mitch.

Dame for example said they were expecting this kind of defense and game planned for it. Why are we so easy to figure out? Thibs is a defensive specialist but sometimes the players look lost on defense.

Our defense and offense is too predictable. Once the big 3 stops running Thibs offense, they revert back to ISO ball. I feel for grimes who’s stuck in the corner all day. Grimes is a system player who doesn’t play well with iso heavy players, unless it’s street ball. Mental change for grimes is needed. Personally I like DDV starting.

DDV or IQ have what it takes to play with ISO volume players. Grimes is not that type of player right now. Great defender though.

Alpha1971 @ 12/6/2023 4:44 PM
I have been observing all season that our squad can beat lots of teams but great teams with size and skill beat us easily. This team has this premise that their 9 man rotation is sacred. We don't have an elite 9 man rotation. Look how Grimes has regressed so far and just goes to show everything doesn't work according to plan A. We need more depth for matchups. We don't have the assets to trade for elite all stars. We need to make smart trades for sub all-star type players to help out Brunson, Julius, and RJ.
gradyandrew @ 12/6/2023 7:38 PM
EwingPSD wrote:
martin wrote:Is this the type of game Randle should focus on? Without the TO's?

This game felt like shades of the Bubble season to me for Randle

I dont think so bc I don’t think it something he can do on the regular. This is where I disagree with people that insist it all mental for Randle. He was great last night. The team wasted a great Randle game. He also scored on a ton of mid range fades going right. If Randle could do that every night he would be TOTALLY unstoppable every night. I think when he gets forced into mid range pull up and fades going right they don’t always go down like they did last night. To Randle’s credit he’s gotten better at doing things like drawing fouls going right and passing (or just deferring) when they don’t on in. I still think he gets himself in trouble
Sometimes
when they aren’t falling and he continues to go to that well

I'm a huge Randle fan so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I think this game show cased a huge elevation in his game against, let's be honest, the best defensive player in the league. The bubble Randle averaged big assists but his shot diet was heavily dependent on him getting to his spots. Last year he was on fire from 3, but as we've seen over the course of his career, he's streaky from distance. Last night he was able to dominate by using iso's to get to mid range shots within about 10 feet. This has been something he's been concentrating on all season and while the range and type of shots were pretty consistent, he was was hitting them from all over the floor. I think the biggest difference was that the Bucks opted for single coverage. This is where getting DDV or IQ more minutes with Randle will really pay off because if a team doubles him, the team needs a knock out catch and shoot guy to make them pay.

I hope this game carries through for the rest of the season. It didn't seem like a fluke to me.

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