Garrett2010PSD wrote:A few are speculating that this could be a prelude to a trade for a star.I sure hope so because this team just got worse IMO.
Maybe a package that includes Randle, Grimes, and a ton of draft capital for someone like DM?
Then I could live with this trade.
it makes us better.
OG is going to give us the production IQ does on low volume with better defense than RJ. almost like combinig those two players.
Grimes, DDV, Hart will play more now too and that makes us better.
Precious is a big tough body that we need now with Mitch out. I assume he'll play backup C and backup PF.
overall just balances the roster and I think it will help guys like Grimes get into rhythm and that also makes us better.
LivingLegend wrote:Our defense has been shit - this gives us 2 legit big/long wing defenders to play with and or sub for Julius.When we get Mitch back that’s 2 legit front court defenders with OG.
Really would like to see Murray here —- maybe for Grimes and a pick or 2.
That would be a solid / balanced squad with offensive/defensive versatility.
Low key excited for Achiuwa and Flynn - both kids I liked coming into league——— think fans will like Precious.
I agree a lot with your points, except maybe Murray(depending on trade). I am seeing the vision but it all depends on how they finish making moves. one of Randle or Rj had to go. Their defense was too bad and they are bad shooters so they never fit.
MS wrote:The Toronto Raptors are finalizing a trade to send OG Anunoby to the New York Knicks for a package including RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley and draft considerations, sources tell ESPN.This is a fleece. I like their team better than ours immediately, OG is the most overrated injury prone player in the league.
Embarrassing they are throwing in draft considerations.
Horrible deal for rental star 🌟 no
guarantees, This deal is ABSURD!
Very angry 😠
Quigley & RJ Was least of the Knickerbockers
problem for getting better
Raptors got better period
especially getting more draft picks
#ASSEDINEFREAKINGDEALOSINGQUIGLEY
LivingLegend wrote:Our defense has been shit - this gives us 2 legit big/long wing defenders to play with and or sub for Julius.When we get Mitch back that’s 2 legit front court defenders with OG.
Really would like to see Murray here —- maybe for Grimes and a pick or 2.
That would be a solid / balanced squad with offensive/defensive versatility.
Low key excited for Achiuwa and Flynn - both kids I liked coming into league——— think fans will like Precious.
I was thinking that too. Knicks seem all in on Thibs type players, so we might as well go and get Dejounte Murray.
Murray, OG, & Robinson is a defensive wet dream
DLeethal wrote:franco12 wrote:Garrett2010PSD wrote:nycericanguy wrote:this is the kind of package that should have been used to get Mitchell or Mikal, not OG
Probably would have to give more in draft capital but I agree.
My criticism is maybe they could have gotten a better player (like Mikal), but hope our FO checked and were rebuffed.
I think Mikal is as untouchable as a player can get for their respective team.
That's fine, make the move for DM then.
we lost IQ and got a premier defensive player back who actually hits his 3s. OG is a much better fit. A true floor spacer for Brunson/Randle.
RJ was a good kid but consistently the worst player in our rotation. IQ was obviously a big loss and we will see who or if fills his shoes.
Too bad Mitch is hurt... would be nice to see him in this mix
Very good trade. Knicks are more balanced moving forward.
SergioNYK wrote:Horrible awful trade! OG isn't even better than IQ let alone RJ! To trade both for him is one of the worst trades ever! I wanna cry!! 
I hear you. Makes no sense unless blockbuster trade for star guard is incoming.
OG is also going to play 32mpg here, IQ didn't have a path to those kind of minutes. so just having him out there for longer makes us better.
nycericanguy wrote:Garrett2010PSD wrote:A few are speculating that this could be a prelude to a trade for a star.I sure hope so because this team just got worse IMO.
Maybe a package that includes Randle, Grimes, and a ton of draft capital for someone like DM?
Then I could live with this trade.
it makes us better.
OG is going to give us the production IQ does on low volume with better defense than RJ. almost like combinig those two players.
Grimes, DDV, Hart will play more now too and that makes us better.
Precious is a big tough body that we need now with Mitch out. I assume he'll play backup C and backup PF.
overall just balances the roster and I think it will help guys like Grimes get into rhythm and that also makes us better.
I don't agree. He is not better than both players combined. Knick fans down way too much on RJ just because he is struggling lately. Forgot about the big games already.
Garrett2010PSD wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Garrett2010PSD wrote:A few are speculating that this could be a prelude to a trade for a star.I sure hope so because this team just got worse IMO.
Maybe a package that includes Randle, Grimes, and a ton of draft capital for someone like DM?
Then I could live with this trade.
it makes us better.
OG is going to give us the production IQ does on low volume with better defense than RJ. almost like combinig those two players.
Grimes, DDV, Hart will play more now too and that makes us better.
Precious is a big tough body that we need now with Mitch out. I assume he'll play backup C and backup PF.
overall just balances the roster and I think it will help guys like Grimes get into rhythm and that also makes us better.
I don't agree. He is not better than both players combined. Knick fans down way too much on RJ just because he is struggling lately. Forgot about the big games already.
no he's not... but we are consolidating two parts into one that really fits, can play 32mpg, shoot and defend.
OG is very solid, he cant be the final piece though.
I also get us wanting OG as the east goes through BOS right now and OG is a big piece to defend those guys, and even the Butler's and Middletowns.
My prediction: Grimes will get a nice contract this summer. $20M range if if if he gets better and now he has a chance for more shots. Maybe.
It'll put the Knicks in line for either Donovan or, in a year or so from now, Mikal.
Now Donovan or Mikal will have leverage to do what they want and it'll be a fight for both guys to the benefit to the Knicks.
Brunson, Donovan, OG, Randle, Mitch
OR
Brunson, Mikal, OG, Randle, Mitch
Garrett2010PSD wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Garrett2010PSD wrote:A few are speculating that this could be a prelude to a trade for a star.I sure hope so because this team just got worse IMO.
Maybe a package that includes Randle, Grimes, and a ton of draft capital for someone like DM?
Then I could live with this trade.
it makes us better.
OG is going to give us the production IQ does on low volume with better defense than RJ. almost like combinig those two players.
Grimes, DDV, Hart will play more now too and that makes us better.
Precious is a big tough body that we need now with Mitch out. I assume he'll play backup C and backup PF.
overall just balances the roster and I think it will help guys like Grimes get into rhythm and that also makes us better.
I don't agree. He is not better than both players combined. Knick fans down way too much on RJ just because he is struggling lately. Forgot about the big games already.
It does balance us; however it should have been Grimes for the balance and not IQ. Now we will struggle to score again. We gave up nearly 35ppg and two legit scoring options. I'm not sure how legit OG is in scoring but I know it's not better than IQ
LivingLegend wrote:Our defense has been shit - this gives us 2 legit big/long wing defenders to play with and or sub for Julius.When we get Mitch back that’s 2 legit front court defenders with OG.
Really would like to see Murray here —- maybe for Grimes and a pick or 2.
That would be a solid / balanced squad with offensive/defensive versatility.
Low key excited for Achiuwa and Flynn - both kids I liked coming into league——— think fans will like Precious.
Precious gives us a good fit at backup 4 at least. The rebalancing of the lineup makes sense now.
Brunson - DDV - OG - Randle - iHart
Flynn/Deuce - Grimes - Hart - Precious - Taj
Bittersweet as mentioned.
Who said DM or Bridges are even on the Market?
IF DM was, seems like not a good fit with Brunson.
Bridges? Nets selling?
The trade we missed was Derrick White, not KP.
But thats spitballing context!
IQ? Loved his shooting but little else. RJ? Yeah, I'll miss him. Good kid and hard worker. I was coming around to his fit for the team (see my stuff pre trade today) and now done, I'll just get over it in time.
OG is a good fit. One injury prone stretch.
Lets do this: He is CAA. Let the fun begin. We likely understand his price going forward.
And we did a big ass trade with Toronto which dispels the fan idiocy that the lawsuit was an impediment. Not if its a deal both teams want to make. They did.
Precious? Flynn? This is some interesting stuff coming in. We get the back up PF that many fans thought FO was negligent about.
Flynn? Not really up on him.
Still here is EF and we gave up on 2nd rounder. I don't feel we got fleeced unless RJ grows into his potential. To be fair same for IQ.
There will be another shoe to drop?
Lets be real, this is something that had to get done if we are move beyond our current ceiling. IQ needed more minutes if he was to grow. Glad we took care of RJ sending him to Toronto.
OG 3pt open looks will be welcome.
RJ was here 4.3 years. He family. Its never easy. Felt the same about KP. But it must be.
Garrett2010PSD wrote:A few are speculating that this could be a prelude to a trade for a star.I sure hope so because this team just got worse IMO.
Maybe a package that includes Randle, Grimes, and a ton of draft capital for someone like DM?
Then I could live with this trade.
I always felt a trade for an offensive star like Donovan or Lavine or Booker didn't work without a big, strong defensive 3. Need to counter the lack of defense you get at the 1/2 with Brunson and a guy like that. I think those guys make a lot more sense now for a contender than they did pairing them with RJ or Hart.
F***
Quickley the best player in this trade...fuck Toronto.
nycericanguy wrote:trading IQ is a huge fail. we had enough assets to hold onto him.
I would have been fine with Barrett but not Quickley
Lets not call OG "precious" we'll all sound like Gollum lol.
martin wrote:
wonder if this means we did it today to extend him? 4/117m would be solid
if you can get Lavine for Grimes and 2 firsts do we do it now?
Lavine's stock is super low right now but he is a Booker-esque offensive player.
