Knicks · DeJounte Murray vs MIA in playoffs - 23/7/7 with 2 steals per game and only 2 TO's in 38mpg on 45/38/100 shooting. (page 13)

nycericanguy @ 1/21/2024 10:10 AM
This regime is very tightlipped, I dont think anyone knows what they're doing. OG was speculated because it made a ton of sense and he switched to CAA. but even that trade dropped out of nowhere with no leaks beforehand.
DLeethal @ 1/21/2024 10:15 AM
Pretty odd comments from Brown considering he's locked into a contract on another team ... lol. Never really heard someone be that blunt about their desire to play for the opposing coach like that. Odd.

I don't really want Brown, we have Deuce. We need a scorer. Especially at that price tag.

nycericanguy @ 1/21/2024 10:34 AM
Capella's offensive rebounding has been pretty much on par with Mitch, and he's healthier, more of a lob threat and not a liability at the FT line.

If we really want to make a serious run, Capella and DJM are the two guys we should be going after.

Rookie @ 1/21/2024 10:42 AM
nycericanguy wrote:Capella's offensive rebounding has been pretty much on par with Mitch, and he's healthier, more of a lob threat and not a liability at the FT line.

If we really want to make a serious run, Capella and DJM are the two guys we should be going after.

You might have to be content with a DJN fathead and a Capella bobble head.

LivingLegend @ 1/21/2024 10:48 AM
DLeethal wrote:Pretty odd comments from Brown considering he's locked into a contract on another team ... lol. Never really heard someone be that blunt about their desire to play for the opposing coach like that. Odd.

I don't really want Brown, we have Deuce. We need a scorer. Especially at that price tag.

Thought that was odd as well and tbh while Brown is a really good Jack of all trades —— he sure seems like J-Hart duplication.

On the + it’s really nice have a team of hard nosed, tough, smart, capable players that make unit greater than sum of parts.

Grimes for Herb Jones would be interesting because Herb can play 2-4 and would give us elite wingspan/D on wings with OG. Shooting is hit/miss but love Harb Jones if we could get him. I would assume Thibs would love Herb.

martin @ 1/21/2024 12:14 PM
BigDaddyG @ 1/21/2024 1:35 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
DLeethal wrote:Pretty odd comments from Brown considering he's locked into a contract on another team ... lol. Never really heard someone be that blunt about their desire to play for the opposing coach like that. Odd.

I don't really want Brown, we have Deuce. We need a scorer. Especially at that price tag.

Thought that was odd as well and tbh while Brown is a really good Jack of all trades —— he sure seems like J-Hart duplication.

On the + it’s really nice have a team of hard nosed, tough, smart, capable players that make unit greater than sum of parts.

Grimes for Herb Jones would be interesting because Herb can play 2-4 and would give us elite wingspan/D on wings with OG. Shooting is hit/miss but love Harb Jones if we could get him. I would assume Thibs would love Herb.

In a vacuum, I'd consider it. But this time needs ball handling and shooting more than it needs a Herb Jones type right now.

BigDaddyG @ 1/21/2024 1:40 PM
Rookie wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:Capella's offensive rebounding has been pretty much on par with Mitch, and he's healthier, more of a lob threat and not a liability at the FT line.

If we really want to make a serious run, Capella and DJM are the two guys we should be going after.

You might have to be content with a DJN fathead and a Capella bobble head.


Man, Cleveland already has a title. That's why I refuse to support Fathead and funnel anymore money to Dan Gilbert.
martin @ 1/21/2024 9:53 PM
From HawkSquawk about an hour ago:

Update:

Team is looking for two firsts and either a quality young player, a player on a team friendly deal ie cheap or expiring contract(s) for DJM.

Team is trying hard to attach Capela and/or Hunter to DJ in a trade. Team is trying to shed salary (heard this one before?) and recoup draft assets for what they gave up to get Murray.

Idea has shifted from getting a second star player either now or in the offseason to this goal. If no deal is there that satisfices above wants at the deadline expect it to happen in the offseason when teams are more flexible in trade offers.

martin @ 1/21/2024 9:54 PM
martin wrote:From HawkSquawk about an hour ago:

Update:

Team is looking for two firsts and either a quality young player, a player on a team friendly deal ie cheap or expiring contract(s) for DJM.

Team is trying hard to attach Capela and/or Hunter to DJ in a trade. Team is trying to shed salary (heard this one before?) and recoup draft assets for what they gave up to get Murray.

Idea has shifted from getting a second star player either now or in the offseason to this goal. If no deal is there that satisfices above wants at the deadline expect it to happen in the offseason when teams are more flexible in trade offers.

I took it to mean that Atlanta FO couldn’t drum up much beyond what Knicks was ready to offer.

Garrett2010PSD @ 1/22/2024 8:14 AM
Two teams in both conferences have emerged as serious trade suitors for Raptors swingman Bruce Brown, league sources tell @ClutchPoints late Sunday evening.

The New York Knicks in the East and the Los Angeles Lakers in the West.

Brett Siegel

newyorknewyork @ 1/22/2024 9:55 AM
Garrett2010PSD wrote:Two teams in both conferences have emerged as serious trade suitors for Raptors swingman Bruce Brown, league sources tell @ClutchPoints late Sunday evening.

The New York Knicks in the East and the Los Angeles Lakers in the West.

Brett Siegel

I don't see it. He's on an expiring contract making $22mil, So don't love given up assets for him. He also isn't elite at anything that we need.

BigDaddyG @ 1/22/2024 10:01 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Garrett2010PSD wrote:Two teams in both conferences have emerged as serious trade suitors for Raptors swingman Bruce Brown, league sources tell @ClutchPoints late Sunday evening.

The New York Knicks in the East and the Los Angeles Lakers in the West.

Brett Siegel

I don't see it. He's on an expiring contract making $22mil, So don't love given up assets for him. He also isn't elite at anything that we need.

It's not quite an expiring. It's a team option that the team would likely pickup for salary in a future trade. But I agree, his skillet has a lot of overlap with Josh. If there's anyone on the Raptors roster we need I'd say it's Schroeder, and I would only consider it if everything fell through.

VDesai @ 1/22/2024 10:25 AM
I wonder why the Knicks didn't ask for Schroeder back alongside OG instead of Precious/Malachi. They must have really liked Precious as a backup big - and given he has been playing ahead of Sims whom they have been developing for 3 years, that would seem to be the case.
Rookie @ 1/22/2024 10:36 AM
VDesai wrote:I wonder why the Knicks didn't ask for Schroeder back alongside OG instead of Precious/Malachi. They must have really liked Precious as a backup big - and given he has been playing ahead of Sims whom they have been developing for 3 years, that would seem to be the case.

I want Dick. He can shoot

VDesai @ 1/22/2024 10:37 AM
Rookie wrote:
VDesai wrote:I wonder why the Knicks didn't ask for Schroeder back alongside OG instead of Precious/Malachi. They must have really liked Precious as a backup big - and given he has been playing ahead of Sims whom they have been developing for 3 years, that would seem to be the case.

I want Dick. He can shoot

Think Toronto said that their Dick was untouchable

Rookie @ 1/22/2024 10:39 AM
VDesai wrote:
Rookie wrote:
VDesai wrote:I wonder why the Knicks didn't ask for Schroeder back alongside OG instead of Precious/Malachi. They must have really liked Precious as a backup big - and given he has been playing ahead of Sims whom they have been developing for 3 years, that would seem to be the case.

I want Dick. He can shoot

Think Toronto said that their Dick was untouchable

I can see why they'd want to hold onto their Dick

newyorknewyork @ 1/22/2024 10:41 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Garrett2010PSD wrote:Two teams in both conferences have emerged as serious trade suitors for Raptors swingman Bruce Brown, league sources tell @ClutchPoints late Sunday evening.

The New York Knicks in the East and the Los Angeles Lakers in the West.

Brett Siegel

I don't see it. He's on an expiring contract making $22mil, So don't love given up assets for him. He also isn't elite at anything that we need.

It's not quite an expiring. It's a team option that the team would likely pickup for salary in a future trade. But I agree, his skillet has a lot of overlap with Josh. If there's anyone on the Raptors roster we need I'd say it's Schroeder, and I would only consider it if everything fell through.

Thanks, completely missed the TO for next year.

DLeethal @ 1/22/2024 10:58 AM
yea it seems like Bruce Brown is more of a contract play than an actual player of need play. If you can get a useful player to also carry-over the Fournier expiring to next year then that's probably what they are thinking. Once Fournier is gone, making a legit trade becomes much harder.
martin @ 1/22/2024 11:28 AM
VDesai wrote:I wonder why the Knicks didn't ask for Schroeder back alongside OG instead of Precious/Malachi. They must have really liked Precious as a backup big - and given he has been playing ahead of Sims whom they have been developing for 3 years, that would seem to be the case.

Because the Knicks did need a big. And Malachi sucks compared to Schroeder, so Toronto needs him next to IQ.

And the Knicks wouldn't have been able to swing the $$$ for Schroeder.

VDesai @ 1/22/2024 11:56 AM
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:I wonder why the Knicks didn't ask for Schroeder back alongside OG instead of Precious/Malachi. They must have really liked Precious as a backup big - and given he has been playing ahead of Sims whom they have been developing for 3 years, that would seem to be the case.

Because the Knicks did need a big. And Malachi sucks compared to Schroeder, so Toronto needs him next to IQ.

And the Knicks wouldn't have been able to swing the $$$ for Schroeder.

Pretty sure the salary matching would have worked if it was Schroeder instead of Achiuwa/Flynn coming back. We ended up with a trade exception in the deal so I though we sent more salary out then what came in. In any event, they obviously wanted Precious in the deal because they see him as more viable than Sims and from a scouting perspective found value in his skillset. Wasn't clear why that was the case the first few games, but certainly saw more promise against Toronto. I feel like he was very soft finishing at the rim in his early games with NY, but he showed out better in this regard. He is also a guy who like to step out occasionally for the 3- he's not shot it at a good rate, but we haven't really seen much of that in his game yet.

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