martin wrote:ToddTT wrote:What I have learned recently is not to watch YouTube highlights of Dejounte.We must get this man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well. I think.
He never misses when he shoots?
Dude... never!!! 🤯
If we get Murray are we sending Devinzino (spelling) to the bench with his 44% shooting from the 3?
JesseDark wrote:If we get Murray are we sending Devinzino (spelling) to the bench with his 44% shooting from the 3?
Read it in Clyde's voice! 
JesseDark wrote:If we get Murray are we sending Devinzino (spelling) to the bench with his 44% shooting from the 3?
whats wrong with having good players off the bench?
Many good points. But can't DDV or Grimes handle the task if Brunson is being trapped? I understand DJM is very good at this, but need we solve everything with a trade?
Because with limited assets and salary, other issues evolve. We have a center who keeps breaking and one thats going to be a FA.
EwingsGlass wrote:LivingLegend wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:nycericanguy wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:nycericanguy wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I feel like its gonna take 5 firsts to get Mitchell. I would much rather trade 3 for Dejounte. I think he "plays the right way" and I think he'd fit right in with the rest of the guys on this roster that play similarlyThe Knicks are gonna have to resign OG. They have to push their chips in now IMO....
I’ve been watching Murray clips and checking his shot charts. He’s a really good fit next to Brunson from the sense of the portion of the court they each use. Almost exact mirror images from the left (Brunson) and right (Murray).
Now, I love Grimes and see him developing, but also see him as the kind of player Landry Fields would covet. So, I think including Grimes and Bey makes sense also. I’d include Sims mostly because I don’t think he is going to get much PT at this point and Achiuwa is the better “project”.
Fournier
Grimes
Sims
2024 Knicks
2024 Dallas
2024 Wash (Protected)
2024 Detroit (Protected)
2025 Bucks (Protected)
For
Murray
Bey
Technical 5 “1st Rd” picks to let Fields save a little face, but when it comes down to it, it will be 4 2nds and 3 late 1sts.
Brunson/DDV/McBride/Flynn
Murray/Hart
Anunoby/Bey
Randle/Achiuwa
Robinson/Hart
Pretty much spreads the floor as much as you can in a 4-1 offense with Randle and OG in their favored corners, Brunson and Murray at the top left and right and your center working the paint.
With it unlikely to see Mitchell anytime soon, Murray is the next best, if not better option for this team.
I’m all in here and would even consider adding more assets (Rokas, for example) to get this done.
way too much and there aren't any minutes here for Bey.
DJ is a 30+mpg guy by himself.
Grimes + 2 1sts is fair.
I think Bey will find minutes. Basically grabs Grimes minutes but with better positional size. Same concept as the OG trade.
I also think the value of those picks is illusory. I don’t see any of those picks conveying better than 20.
I’d pull that trigger but if they can get it for less, all the better.
If Bey is taking Grimes 18mpg that literally leaves ZERO for DJM.
The idea is to swap Grimes for DJM and have DJM take those 18-20mpg, plus the 10 or so that Miles plays right now, and maybe you cut Hart's minutes by 2 or so to get DJM to around 30-32mpg.
But there would be absolutely ZERO minutes for Bey.
IQ only played 24mpg here because of the logjam, DJM isnt going to come here to play 24mpg.
The minutes allocation is not as drastic as you make it sound. Mostly cause I relegated McBride back to the bench. I think Anunoby is going to be in foul trouble quite a bit. I think That the DDV/Hart combination will end up going over that 18 mins regularly. I think my sheet fundamentally is different from how Thibs runs his rotations, but you could drop Achiuwa out of that rotation as needed and hand out those extra minutes. Its just math and competitive minutes.
Brunson 30 / DDV 20
Murray 30 / Hart 20
Anunoby 30 / Bey 20
Randle 36 / Achiwua 6
Robinson 24 / Hart 24
I am kind of surprised on the pushback on Bey across the board. We might just see that guy differently. I liked him as a prospect, in Detroit and still.
Maybe I’m missing something or adding wrong - there are only 240 total minutes in a game (5 players * 48 min = 240) but your #s add to 330. Am I adding wrong?
You are adding wrong. I used 48 mins per line and then stole minutes from backup pf and added them to other positions. 30+30+30+36+24+20+20+20+6+24 = 240
Yep - my bad.
ToddTT wrote:martin wrote:ToddTT wrote:What I have learned recently is not to watch YouTube highlights of Dejounte.We must get this man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well. I think.
He never misses when he shoots?
Dude... never!!! 🤯
The Hawk announcers raved about his elite mid-range game.
I seem to recall some podcast saying Knick mgmt loves guys with mid-range pull up capability and personally I think playoffs require knocking down more mid-range because defensive effort is higher, pace is slower and you have to work harder off dribble to find looks.
If I’m being honest Murray has exactly the body type I like to watch and similar to the great Stromile Swift I probably want Murray more for cosmetic reasons because he’ll look good in Knicks uni. LOL.
JesseDark wrote:If we get Murray are we sending Devinzino (spelling) to the bench with his 44% shooting from the 3?
Yes.
Really really hope the trade is not something like Grimes, Mitch, Fournier for Capella, Dejounte
martin wrote:Really really hope the trade is not something like Grimes, Mitch, Fournier for Capella, Dejounte
I mean that wouldn't be the worst trade. If there's one guy in the NBA that can grab offensive boards like Mitch it's Capela.
12 & 11 with almost 2 blocks per game in even FEWER minutes than Mitch. and also not nearly as much a liability at the FT line.
nycericanguy wrote:martin wrote:Really really hope the trade is not something like Grimes, Mitch, Fournier for Capella, Dejounte
I mean that wouldn't be the worst trade. If there's one guy in the NBA that can grab offensive boards like Mitch it's Capela.
12 & 11 with almost 2 blocks per game in even FEWER minutes than Mitch. and also not nearly as much a liability at the FT line.
It makes sense for Knicks. Just hate losing those guys
They do that deal with mitch done for season?
Personally I'd like to see Mitch in NOLA if anything. Seems like a good dude that likes it back home.
Not that I have a trade on mind.
I like that RJ got to Toronto. We might have over paid just a bit for OG but doing a solid for a good kid never hurts.
Likewise perhaps OG got sent to one of his preferred destinations?
The feel good trade of the year. Both teams win!!!!
martin wrote:nycericanguy wrote:martin wrote:Really really hope the trade is not something like Grimes, Mitch, Fournier for Capella, Dejounte
I mean that wouldn't be the worst trade. If there's one guy in the NBA that can grab offensive boards like Mitch it's Capela.
12 & 11 with almost 2 blocks per game in even FEWER minutes than Mitch. and also not nearly as much a liability at the FT line.
It makes sense for Knicks. Just hate losing those guys
trust me i get it, hurts seeing RJ & IQ in TOR.
KP... still not quite over that, really wanted him back.
Obi... didn't sting much, maybe b/c I hated that pick so much and it was a constant reminder that he wasn't Hali or Maxey...lol
but Capela and DJM for Grimes & Mitch makes us alot better this season.
Atlanta insiders still think Knicks are leading landing destination for Dejounte.
martin wrote:Atlanta insiders still think Knicks are leading landing destination for Dejounte.
They mention how many picks it will take?
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:Atlanta insiders still think Knicks are leading landing destination for Dejounte.
They mention how many picks it will take?
Grimes and at least 2 picks.
Seemed like a deal is or has been in place since Tuesday but other teams stepped up to plate, or maybe Atlanta just wants NY to up offer.
My worries is that Mitch and Capella involved but that is 100% speculation by me.
BigDaddyG wrote:
What’s the over/under on how long it takes Dramond Green to punch him in the face
Rookie wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:
What’s the over/under on how long it takes Dramond Green to punch him in the face
They're both Klutch, so I think Paul would jump in before it got to that level.
BigDaddyG wrote:Rookie wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:
What’s the over/under on how long it takes Dramond Green to punch him in the face
They're both Klutch, so I think Paul would jump in before it got to that level.
Paul needs some punching in the face too tbh
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Rookie wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:
What’s the over/under on how long it takes Dramond Green to punch him in the face
They're both Klutch, so I think Paul would jump in before it got to that level.
Paul needs some punching in the face too tbh
I mean, he needs to be reminded he is a Knick fan. Was supposed to deliver Davis to the Knicks. Losing Robinson as a client was his own fault for not delivering Davis like he was supposed to.
