Knicks · [Game Thread 1/13/24 @8PM] Knicks at Grizzlies (page 5)
EAST W L PCT GB STRK L10 HOME AWAY PPG OPPG DIFF
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1 Boston 30 9 0.769 - W1 7-3 19-0 11-9 121.4 111.6 9.8
2 Milwaukee 27 12 0.692 3 W2 5-5 18-4 9-8 124.5 119.4 5.1
3 Philadelphia 24 13 0.649 5 W1 5-5 14-6 10-7 119.6 111.5 8.1
4 Indiana 23 15 0.605 6.5 W3 9-1 13-8 10-7 126.6 123.4 3.2
5 Cleveland 22 15 0.595 7 W4 7-3 13-8 9-7 113.2 111.3 1.96 New York 23 16 0.59 7 W1 6-4 11-4 12-12 115.6 111.6 4.0
7 Miami 22 16 0.579 7.5 W1 6-4 11-7 11-9 112.5 111.6 0.9
8 Orlando 21 18 0.538 9 L3 3-7 13-5 8-13 112.5 111.6 0.9
9 Chicago 19 22 0.463 12 W1 6-4 13-10 6-12 110.6 112.5 -1.9
10 Brooklyn 16 22 0.421 13.5 L2 3-7 10-9 6-13 114.6 116.4 -1.8
11 Atlanta 15 23 0.395 14.5 L2 3-7 6-11 9-12 121.7 124.1 -2.4
12 Toronto 15 24 0.385 15 L3 4-6 9-9 6-15 115.5 117.1 -1.6
13 Charlotte 8 28 0.222 20.5 L4 1-9 4-13 4-15 108.9 120.5 -11.6
14 Washington 7 31 0.184 22.5 W1 2-8 3-13 4-18 115.5 125.2 -9.7
15 Detroit 3 36 0.077 27 L7 1-9 2-17 1-19 111.3 122.7 -11.4WEST W L PCT GB STRK L10 HOME AWAY PPG OPPG DIFF
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1 Minnesota 27 11 0.711 - W1 5-5 15-2 12-9 113.2 107.4 5.8
2 Oklahoma City 27 11 0.711 - W4 8-2 16-5 11-6 122.5 113.4 9.1
3 Denver 27 13 0.675 1 W1 7-3 16-4 11-9 116.2 111.1 5.1
4 Los Angeles 25 13 0.658 2 W3 8-2 16-4 9-9 117.7 111.9 5.8
5 Sacramento 23 15 0.605 4 L1 6-4 13-7 10-8 117.6 117.1 0.5
6 New Orleans 24 16 0.6 4 W1 7-3 12-8 12-8 116.4 111.7 4.7
7 Dallas 23 17 0.575 5 L1 5-5 12-9 11-8 118.5 117.1 1.4
8 Phoenix 20 18 0.526 7 W1 6-4 11-11 9-7 115.6 114.3 1.3
9 Utah 21 20 0.512 7.5 W5 8-2 14-5 7-15 116.4 118.5 -2.1
10 Houston 19 19 0.5 8 L1 4-6 15-6 4-13 112.7 111.4 1.3
11 Los Angeles 19 21 0.475 9 L2 3-7 13-7 6-14 114.1 115.8 -1.7
12 Golden State 18 21 0.462 9.5 L1 3-7 11-11 7-10 117.4 118.2 -0.8
13 Memphis 14 25 0.359 13.5 L2 4-6 3-15 11-10 108.1 113.4 -5.3
14 Portland 10 28 0.263 17 L3 3-7 5-11 5-17 107.1 116.8 -9.7
15 San Antonio 7 31 0.184 20 L1 3-7 3-16 4-15 112.6 121.7 -9.1
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I'm glad to hear him say it. Takes some of the stink off of that W for me.
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Fire Thibs?
Duece has been so impressive... he's been scoring like IQ except more efficiently and playing great defense. Really amazing how he's just been a different player.
Props to Thibs and the FO for knowing he could do this.
nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else. One of Deuce or Grimes is fine but neither players development is worth not bringing in someone else superior
Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else.
yikes breathe.
we absolutely should go for DJM right now and I've been saying that since day 2 of the OG trade so not sure what this post is even about...lol. i literally started the 23/7/7 trade for DJM thread.
nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else.
yikes breathe.
we absolutely should go for DJM right now and I've been saying that since day 2 of the OG trade so not sure what this post is even about...lol. i literally started the 23/7/7 trade for DJM thread.
The search is not simply limited to Murray. I'm all in for Murray but Leon Rose tends to shop with budget in mind. Don't cry into your beer when it's Rozier, Clarkson, Brogdon or someone else. Team is likely going to try to save on the margins for a guard and try to bring in a big for the assets it would have cost for Murray alone. Deuce is ok and would look better playing off the ball on offense with any of the guards mentioned above while being able to defend the point of attack. For me the team is likely amenable to trading Grimes, as Deuce can do what Grimes can if his 3 pt shot is falling. We can grab a back up SG in the off-season if Grimes is traded.
Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else.
yikes breathe.
we absolutely should go for DJM right now and I've been saying that since day 2 of the OG trade so not sure what this post is even about...lol. i literally started the 23/7/7 trade for DJM thread.
The search is not simply limited to Murray. I'm all in for Murray but Leon Rose tends to shop with budget in mind. Don't cry into your beer when it's Rozier, Clarkson, Brogdon or someone else. Team is likely going to try to save on the margins for a guard and try to bring in a big for the assets it would have cost for Murray alone. Deuce is ok and would look better playing off the ball on offense with any of the guards mentioned above while being able to defend the point of attack. For me the team is likely amenable to trading Grimes, as Deuce can do what Grimes can if his 3 pt shot is falling. We can grab a back up SG in the off-season if Grimes is traded.
I doubt it, this regime has never benched young players for 30+ year olds. Leon shops on a budget but he also does so with the future in mind.
I don't see us benching the youth and bringing in a PG unless it's a very substantial upgrade AND someone who can be here long term.
Rozier maybe, he fits the bill though I think DJM is just a better player and fit. But Clarkson and Brogdon i'd be very surprised.
nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else.
yikes breathe.
we absolutely should go for DJM right now and I've been saying that since day 2 of the OG trade so not sure what this post is even about...lol. i literally started the 23/7/7 trade for DJM thread.
The search is not simply limited to Murray. I'm all in for Murray but Leon Rose tends to shop with budget in mind. Don't cry into your beer when it's Rozier, Clarkson, Brogdon or someone else. Team is likely going to try to save on the margins for a guard and try to bring in a big for the assets it would have cost for Murray alone. Deuce is ok and would look better playing off the ball on offense with any of the guards mentioned above while being able to defend the point of attack. For me the team is likely amenable to trading Grimes, as Deuce can do what Grimes can if his 3 pt shot is falling. We can grab a back up SG in the off-season if Grimes is traded.
I doubt it, this regime has never benched young players for 30+ year olds. Leon shops on a budget but he also does so with the future in mind.
I don't see us benching the youth and bringing in a PG unless it's a very substantial upgrade AND someone who can be here long term.
Rozier maybe, he fits the bill though I think DJM is just a better player and fit. But Clarkson and Brogdon i'd be very surprised.
Never benches youth for vets ? What about ELF and Burke's over IQ ? What about Taj over Simms ?Plus team has moved beyond development stage, they are trying to win now, Development stage is over.
Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else.
yikes breathe.
we absolutely should go for DJM right now and I've been saying that since day 2 of the OG trade so not sure what this post is even about...lol. i literally started the 23/7/7 trade for DJM thread.
The search is not simply limited to Murray. I'm all in for Murray but Leon Rose tends to shop with budget in mind. Don't cry into your beer when it's Rozier, Clarkson, Brogdon or someone else. Team is likely going to try to save on the margins for a guard and try to bring in a big for the assets it would have cost for Murray alone. Deuce is ok and would look better playing off the ball on offense with any of the guards mentioned above while being able to defend the point of attack. For me the team is likely amenable to trading Grimes, as Deuce can do what Grimes can if his 3 pt shot is falling. We can grab a back up SG in the off-season if Grimes is traded.
I doubt it, this regime has never benched young players for 30+ year olds. Leon shops on a budget but he also does so with the future in mind.
I don't see us benching the youth and bringing in a PG unless it's a very substantial upgrade AND someone who can be here long term.
Rozier maybe, he fits the bill though I think DJM is just a better player and fit. But Clarkson and Brogdon i'd be very surprised.
Never benches youth for vets ? What about ELF and Burke's over IQ ? Plus team has moved beyond development stage, they are trying to win now, Development stage is over.
IQ was playing 20+mpg every game from day 1, he was never benched. the truth is he wasn't very good his 1st two seasons.
all that being said, we moved on from Elf & Burks pretty quickly pun intended.
We are in the win now stage yes, but Rose isn't shortsighted. There have been tons of guys we could have traded for to make us marginally better at the expense of the longterm but Rose hasn't had philosophy.
nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else.
yikes breathe.
we absolutely should go for DJM right now and I've been saying that since day 2 of the OG trade so not sure what this post is even about...lol. i literally started the 23/7/7 trade for DJM thread.
The search is not simply limited to Murray. I'm all in for Murray but Leon Rose tends to shop with budget in mind. Don't cry into your beer when it's Rozier, Clarkson, Brogdon or someone else. Team is likely going to try to save on the margins for a guard and try to bring in a big for the assets it would have cost for Murray alone. Deuce is ok and would look better playing off the ball on offense with any of the guards mentioned above while being able to defend the point of attack. For me the team is likely amenable to trading Grimes, as Deuce can do what Grimes can if his 3 pt shot is falling. We can grab a back up SG in the off-season if Grimes is traded.
I doubt it, this regime has never benched young players for 30+ year olds. Leon shops on a budget but he also does so with the future in mind.
I don't see us benching the youth and bringing in a PG unless it's a very substantial upgrade AND someone who can be here long term.
Rozier maybe, he fits the bill though I think DJM is just a better player and fit. But Clarkson and Brogdon i'd be very surprised.
Never benches youth for vets ? What about ELF and Burke's over IQ ? Plus team has moved beyond development stage, they are trying to win now, Development stage is over.
IQ was playing 20+mpg every game from day 1, he was never benched. the truth is he wasn't very good his 1st two seasons.
all that being said, we moved on from Elf & Burks pretty quickly pun intended.
We are in the win now stage yes, but Rose isn't shortsighted.
Ok bro,... Have a great Sunday. I just hope they make a trade asap DJM will be acquired by another team who will pay more.
He is 6'5", but unlike Hart and DiVincenzo he is slight and I dont think he matches with wings.
On offense, I think Brunson is way better at not being as ball dominant as Trae, but I think they have similar offensive games (Brunson and Murray).
Brogdon probably makes more sense as a secondary creator who can play off guard and spot up.
Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Team scored 106 pts and had how many turn overs against a team missing 9 rotation players. Geezus we need a third bonafide scorer to beat playoffs teams. Deuce showed he can shoot. Pair Deuce with Clarkson or Brogdon off the bench and that's fine, but we need a guy like those vets at the very least. Prefer a bigger acquisition talent wise. Yet, at the very least need a Brogdon or Clarkson for the playoffs.DAL just got smoked at home to a NOLA team without Ingram, Zion and CJ and on a 2nd night of a B2B. I'm happy with the W
We need a third scorer. Convince yourself with whatever argument comes across your head at the time. We need a third scorer with gravitas for the team to be successful in the playoffs. Your a fan of Deuce and Grimes fine. If we go forward with them in the playoffs we will get smoked. Not debating it with you. You just like to have a contrary opinion and like to defend your favorite players and that's great. I get your MO. So I won't bother debating you, I know what your going to post before you even type it. Just don't be surprised if the FO doesn't do what you think and brings in someone else.
yikes breathe.
we absolutely should go for DJM right now and I've been saying that since day 2 of the OG trade so not sure what this post is even about...lol. i literally started the 23/7/7 trade for DJM thread.
The search is not simply limited to Murray. I'm all in for Murray but Leon Rose tends to shop with budget in mind. Don't cry into your beer when it's Rozier, Clarkson, Brogdon or someone else. Team is likely going to try to save on the margins for a guard and try to bring in a big for the assets it would have cost for Murray alone. Deuce is ok and would look better playing off the ball on offense with any of the guards mentioned above while being able to defend the point of attack. For me the team is likely amenable to trading Grimes, as Deuce can do what Grimes can if his 3 pt shot is falling. We can grab a back up SG in the off-season if Grimes is traded.
I doubt it, this regime has never benched young players for 30+ year olds. Leon shops on a budget but he also does so with the future in mind.
I don't see us benching the youth and bringing in a PG unless it's a very substantial upgrade AND someone who can be here long term.
Rozier maybe, he fits the bill though I think DJM is just a better player and fit. But Clarkson and Brogdon i'd be very surprised.
Never benches youth for vets ? What about ELF and Burke's over IQ ? Plus team has moved beyond development stage, they are trying to win now, Development stage is over.
IQ was playing 20+mpg every game from day 1, he was never benched. the truth is he wasn't very good his 1st two seasons.
all that being said, we moved on from Elf & Burks pretty quickly pun intended.
We are in the win now stage yes, but Rose isn't shortsighted.
Ok bro,... Have a great Sunday. I just hope they make a trade asap DJM will be acquired by another team who will pay more.
if we really want him I think we can beat just about any offer, question is how much do we want him?
We could offer Grimes, the MIL 1st, the DET 1st and even the WSH 1st (or the two seconds it turns into).
I mean that's the equivalent of about 4 1st rounders in value depending on how they value Grimes. I don't see any other team beating that.
We are a good match b/c ATL could really use a SG like Grimes next to Trae, AND they could really use some draft replenishment since they are without picks in '25 and '27. And they are also looking to rebuild so some other teams offering win now pieces instead of picks might not be as attractive.
Knixkik wrote:Deuce and Ihart stepped up which is great. This team is bad without Brunson though.
Brunson seems to keep Randle in check. To many guys trying to make the great pass when a good pass would do. Randle just looks off. Like if you were to take a homeless guy and clean him up and put him in nice clothes he’d still look off.
And congrats to Thibs on 500 wins. That's a huge accomplishment in an era where most coaches don't last. Thibs is not perfect and he does things I don't like or agree with - like playing Deuce and Hartenstein the entire second half last night - but overall he's done a very good job of establishing the culture and winning. To make the playoffs 3 out of 4 years seemed like an impossible task before he got here.
SergioNYK wrote:Good job taking care of business without Brunson. I was a little worried being down 4 at halftime but kudos to the team for stepping up. Deuce played really well in his first start. He's honestly soften the blow losing IQ. I'm getting to a point where I kind of don't want to trade for a vet. Let Deuce continue to play and grow. And Hartenstein with another 20 rebound and 4 blocks game. Insane how well he's played filling in for Rob!And congrats to Thibs on 500 wins. That's a huge accomplishment in an era where most coaches don't last. Thibs is not perfect and he does things I don't like or agree with - like playing Deuce and Hartenstein the entire second half last night - but overall he's done a very good job of establishing the culture and winning. To make the playoffs 3 out of 4 years seemed like an impossible task before he got here.
I have been a McBride backer from draft but even I have to admit we need a vet that can create for himself/others. The turnovers this game alone is proof of that While McBrides shot is going we good but I am not yet ready to trust he can constantly breakdown a defense and we will need that in the playoffs.
Clean wrote:SergioNYK wrote:Good job taking care of business without Brunson. I was a little worried being down 4 at halftime but kudos to the team for stepping up. Deuce played really well in his first start. He's honestly soften the blow losing IQ. I'm getting to a point where I kind of don't want to trade for a vet. Let Deuce continue to play and grow. And Hartenstein with another 20 rebound and 4 blocks game. Insane how well he's played filling in for Rob!And congrats to Thibs on 500 wins. That's a huge accomplishment in an era where most coaches don't last. Thibs is not perfect and he does things I don't like or agree with - like playing Deuce and Hartenstein the entire second half last night - but overall he's done a very good job of establishing the culture and winning. To make the playoffs 3 out of 4 years seemed like an impossible task before he got here.
I have been a McBride backer from draft but even I have to admit we need a vet that can create for himself/others. The turnovers this game alone is proof of that While McBrides shot is going we good but I am not yet ready to trust he can constantly breakdown a defense and we will need that in the playoffs.
Trust today and tomorrow versus allowing a player to develop into that trust.
Hard balance
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martin wrote:Clean wrote:SergioNYK wrote:Good job taking care of business without Brunson. I was a little worried being down 4 at halftime but kudos to the team for stepping up. Deuce played really well in his first start. He's honestly soften the blow losing IQ. I'm getting to a point where I kind of don't want to trade for a vet. Let Deuce continue to play and grow. And Hartenstein with another 20 rebound and 4 blocks game. Insane how well he's played filling in for Rob!And congrats to Thibs on 500 wins. That's a huge accomplishment in an era where most coaches don't last. Thibs is not perfect and he does things I don't like or agree with - like playing Deuce and Hartenstein the entire second half last night - but overall he's done a very good job of establishing the culture and winning. To make the playoffs 3 out of 4 years seemed like an impossible task before he got here.
I have been a McBride backer from draft but even I have to admit we need a vet that can create for himself/others. The turnovers this game alone is proof of that While McBrides shot is going we good but I am not yet ready to trust he can constantly breakdown a defense and we will need that in the playoffs.
Trust today and tomorrow versus allowing a player to develop into that trust.
Hard balance
I think the player that we have to decide on developing or not isnt Deuce, but Grimes. Grimes is moving down the pecking order. He has to slow down offensively and be more than a spot up shooter in his bench role.
At this point if you could trade Fournier and Grimes for Brogdon that sound like a no brainer. I think you could still develop Deuce, but Brogdon is a secondary creator and better shooter than Grimes. He brings everything think Quickley did in his role here with more size. I still think Deuce plays a role in the rotation even if he we make that trade.
Grimes is better than this. I know he can drive and dish and has better instincts, but he seems ton just be pressing too hard and playing too fast. He needs to slow down and make better decisions.