Knicks · Alec Burks coming back, Bojan Bogdanovic too. Fournier, Grimes, Flynn, Archie out (page 10)
SergioNYK wrote:I was dead wrong after the OGA trade and I hope I'm dead wrong here because I don't really like this trade. There was something pure and cool about having guys on the team who you drafted and now they are mostly all gone. I know Grimes didn't do himself any favors and his passive play at times and that's a big reason why we 'gave up' on him but I thought he was starting to come around with his shot and he took it to the basket a lot more and he always played great defense. I just don't like trading a 23 year old for a 32 and 34 year old.We've had Burks here recently so we know what we're getting. He was really good for us in 2021. He can get his own shot and handle the ball which we needed. He'll help.
I do think everyone is overreacting a little bit with Bogdanovic. He's 34 and not a traditional Thibs type of player. And where is he going to play? He'll be behind Randle, OGA, Hart and Precious. Do not be surprised if he becomes Fournier on the bench and not playing.
I still think we're a second round team as long as we avoid the cHeat in round one. We can give Boston and Philly (with Embiid) a tough series but we'll be a heavy underdog in either series.
The best part of the trade is def holding onto the 1st round picks and Bogdanovic's salary to use in a trade.
We all hope you are dead wrong too 
Grimes is the latest kick in the balls for NY's drafted own. I am only sobered by the fact that we have 2 firsts in this upcoming draft, and we will either consolidate those picks and take a player, or draft and trade and that means someone else even better is heading to the Knicks 
The underlying of trading Burks/Bogs for Grimes: Knicks are going for it. And not just ECF, they GOING for it and the FO is telling you their plan. It's a good thing.
And since the Knicks are in full-on playoff mode, I have switched the way I think about having too many players on the bench. The Knicks now go into maintenance mode and let players take some games off when they need to as the team heals and preps for playoffs.
I have also started to think in terms of match-ups night to night and the flexibility Thibs will have on both ends of the court in dealing with how to win games. Need shooting off bench? Bogan plays more than Josh Hart. Need a big wing defender off bench? Precious instead of Bogs. Like that. IMHO It'll be more about finding the right combo to win instead of getting guys so many minutes a night.
SergioNYK wrote:I was dead wrong after the OGA trade and I hope I'm dead wrong here because I don't really like this trade. There was something pure and cool about having guys on the team who you drafted and now they are mostly all gone. I know Grimes didn't do himself any favors and his passive play at times and that's a big reason why we 'gave up' on him but I thought he was starting to come around with his shot and he took it to the basket a lot more and he always played great defense. I just don't like trading a 23 year old for a 32 and 34 year old.We've had Burks here recently so we know what we're getting. He was really good for us in 2021. He can get his own shot and handle the ball which we needed. He'll help.
I do think everyone is overreacting a little bit with Bogdanovic. He's 34 and not a traditional Thibs type of player. And where is he going to play? He'll be behind Randle, OGA, Hart and Precious. Do not be surprised if he becomes Fournier on the bench and not playing.
I still think we're a second round team as long as we avoid the cHeat in round one. We can give Boston and Philly (with Embiid) a tough series but we'll be a heavy underdog in either series.
The best part of the trade is def holding onto the 1st round picks and Bogdanovic's salary to use in a trade.
I hear you and understand the concern.
But right now he’s only behind Donte and that might change because Bogs is a better finisher with size to finish in traffic. I rather stay in the moment and see how he impacts today’s team. And him and Burks fills a huge need at the moment.
Also both are vets who understand the nba and doesn’t take it personal if they have to set behind players. It’s the young guys who have that issue (beside deuce 
).
The guys you mentioned (including JB and iHart) can now sit out and heal up while getting ready for this playoff push.
I’m not worried about chemistry or timing or rotation. Vets know how to blend in and keep the synergy going. These guys have nothing to prove and just want to win a chip. Bogs is getting a new contract regardless. He’s only 34 yrs young and his game will age well.
Sit back, relax 😎. Puff puff pass 🚬
martin wrote:SergioNYK wrote:I was dead wrong after the OGA trade and I hope I'm dead wrong here because I don't really like this trade. There was something pure and cool about having guys on the team who you drafted and now they are mostly all gone. I know Grimes didn't do himself any favors and his passive play at times and that's a big reason why we 'gave up' on him but I thought he was starting to come around with his shot and he took it to the basket a lot more and he always played great defense. I just don't like trading a 23 year old for a 32 and 34 year old.We've had Burks here recently so we know what we're getting. He was really good for us in 2021. He can get his own shot and handle the ball which we needed. He'll help.
I do think everyone is overreacting a little bit with Bogdanovic. He's 34 and not a traditional Thibs type of player. And where is he going to play? He'll be behind Randle, OGA, Hart and Precious. Do not be surprised if he becomes Fournier on the bench and not playing.
I still think we're a second round team as long as we avoid the cHeat in round one. We can give Boston and Philly (with Embiid) a tough series but we'll be a heavy underdog in either series.
The best part of the trade is def holding onto the 1st round picks and Bogdanovic's salary to use in a trade.
We all hope you are dead wrong too
Grimes is the latest kick in the balls for NY's drafted own. I am only sobered by the fact that we have 2 firsts in this upcoming draft, and we will either consolidate those picks and take a player, or draft and trade and that means someone else even better is heading to the Knicks
The underlying of trading Burks/Bogs for Grimes: Knicks are going for it. And not just ECF, they GOING for it and the FO is telling you their plan. It's a good thing.
And since the Knicks are in full-on playoff mode, I have switched the way I think about having too many players on the bench. The Knicks now go into maintenance mode and let players take some games off when they need to as the team heals and preps for playoffs.
I have also started to think in terms of match-ups night to night and the flexibility Thibs will have on both ends of the court in dealing with how to win games. Need shooting off bench? Bogan plays more than Josh Hart. Need a big wing defender off bench? Precious instead of Bogs. Like that. IMHO It'll be more about finding the right combo to win instead of getting guys so many minutes a night.
And we still have our second round cats in Deuce, Mitch, and Jericho.