1. JALEN BRUNSON – NEW YORK KNICKS Three years, $76.3 million (player option in 2025-26)
Brunson is the Knicks leader and has become the team’s heartbeat in under two full seasons. He’s stayed pretty healthy throughout his career, so that gives Brunson a level of reliability for New York. He’s also incredibly productive, and his game has translated to winning. And, a key for a team that has added a lot of salary and will continue to do so, Brunson’s deal declines from this season to next by nearly $1.4 million. Also, Brunson has been so good, that we’re willing to overlook that player option which likely makes next season a contract year.
ToddTT@ 4/28/2024 8:20 PM
Deuce says that article is old.
martin@ 4/28/2024 8:33 PM
How do Kawhi and Zion qualify? Don’t you have to play games for your contract to have value?
BigDaddyG@ 4/28/2024 9:08 PM
martin wrote:How do Kawhi and Zion qualify? Don’t you have to play games for your contract to have value?
They're saying Zion's deal is valuable because the NOP can basically end it anytime they want at this point. I wonder if Deuce and Zion share agents.
martin@ 4/28/2024 9:23 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:How do Kawhi and Zion qualify? Don’t you have to play games for your contract to have value?
They're saying Zion's deal is valuable because the NOP can basically end it anytime they want at this point. I wonder if Deuce and Zion share agents.
Haha yeah my comment was tongue in cheek.
Zions contract is so valuable that if he sucks ass so much the Pels can end it early. That’s so backhanded LOL
He signed the deal after a very good season. Most fans and writers comment on what's in front of them. So naturally its about the playoffs and fans emotions are about the moment.
Leonard's contract is not a disaster if you need a star to play in your new building. If you get PG13 to resign. Perhaps its just about treading water and staying relevant out west? The reality might be there is no chip in this group but blowing it up now is not good for the brand and going to a new building.
Rucco and Jefferson were very complimentary on Brunson during broadcast. How could they not??
franco12@ 4/29/2024 7:50 AM
how does the writer not include Donte? It was clear by Mid March that DD was turning into a stud.
ToddTT@ 4/29/2024 12:29 PM
franco12 wrote:how does the writer not include Donte? It was clear by Mid March that DD was turning into a stud.
What has that bum done for us lately?
/s
VDesai@ 4/29/2024 1:06 PM
No one wants to give him credit, but Randle's production on his contract is strong. Had that bad year in the middle of 2 all NBA team years and was on track for a third.
Also iHart on like a 2 yr 16mm contract is pretty damn good in addition to the absurd Deuce contract and pretty damn good Donte contract.
But the fact that we have good value all around is why we are good.
martin@ 4/29/2024 1:35 PM
VDesai wrote:No one wants to give him credit, but Randle's production on his contract is strong. Had that bad year in the middle of 2 all NBA team years and was on track for a third.
Also iHart on like a 2 yr 16mm contract is pretty damn good in addition to the absurd Deuce contract and pretty damn good Donte contract.
But the fact that we have good value all around is why we are good.
We give him credit every time we don't want to trade him!
martin@ 4/29/2024 6:04 PM
This guy has a value contract and should be acquired. Bigger more skilled version of Josh Hart.
Nalod@ 4/30/2024 7:15 AM
martin wrote:This guy has a value contract and should be acquired. Bigger more skilled version of Josh Hart.
Whom does he replace and where does he get minutes? Is he a starter or a back up on a contender? is he on the rise or plateaued?
martin@ 4/30/2024 9:15 AM
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:This guy has a value contract and should be acquired. Bigger more skilled version of Josh Hart.
Whom does he replace and where does he get minutes? Is he a starter or a back up on a contender? is he on the rise or plateaued?
Bogey & pick(s). He is on the cusp and more a facilitator than scorer (and can be both) but I'm not super familiar with his game. Backup but starter in a pinch at PF or SF, and long term starter for sure in a year or 3 at the playoff level. He is primed to jettison like a virgin on prom night
technomaster@ 4/30/2024 9:55 AM
martin wrote: <SNIP regarding Dani's virtues>
Bogey & pick(s). He is on the cusp and more a facilitator than scorer (and can be both) but I'm not super familiar with his game. Backup but starter in a pinch at PF or SF, and long term starter for sure in a year or 3 at the playoff level. He is primed to jettison like a virgin on prom night
Deni's an up-and-coming player and at age 23, just had a leap in production this season practically across the board - increased his scoring, rebounding, assists, and shooting percentages. He's a do it all kind of player. Post-injury Gordon Hayward? Turkoglu?
He's on a 4yr/$55m extension - really good value with the upside to be worth more than twice that.
Physically, he's the size that we're looking for and is on a super-value contract, but I don't think we're an ideal fit for him - especially if Randle is healthy and back on our roster. This guy needs PT to reach his max potential. If we're looking at a post-Randle world, he might be a nice piece.
An alternate player I'd target is Kyle Anderson of the Timberwolves - sort of similar all-around glue player, though at age 30 his opportunity to establish himself as a bonafide starter has passed. UFA after this season. He'd be willing to accept a secondary role. He's a functional spot starter at multiple positions, coming off a 2yr/$18m contract. (If this thread is about values - he'll come for fair market value...)
Nalod@ 4/30/2024 10:04 AM
Deni is the love child of Gallo and Grayson Allen? Only do comps to other white guys Curious if he has the "Thibian Dog" in him on defense. The intelligence on defense is a must.
EwingsGlass@ 4/30/2024 10:10 AM
technomaster wrote:
martin wrote: <SNIP regarding Dani's virtues>
Bogey & pick(s). He is on the cusp and more a facilitator than scorer (and can be both) but I'm not super familiar with his game. Backup but starter in a pinch at PF or SF, and long term starter for sure in a year or 3 at the playoff level. He is primed to jettison like a virgin on prom night
Deni's an up-and-coming player and at age 23, just had a leap in production this season practically across the board - increased his scoring, rebounding, assists, and shooting percentages. He's a do it all kind of player. Post-injury Gordon Hayward? Turkoglu?
He's on a 4yr/$55m extension - really good value with the upside to be worth more than twice that.
Physically, he's the size that we're looking for and is on a super-value contract, but I don't think we're an ideal fit for him - especially if Randle is healthy and back on our roster. This guy needs PT to reach his max potential. If we're looking at a post-Randle world, he might be a nice piece.
An alternate player I'd target is Kyle Anderson of the Timberwolves - sort of similar all-around glue player, though at age 30 his opportunity to establish himself as a bonafide starter has passed. UFA after this season. He'd be willing to accept a secondary role. He's a functional spot starter at multiple positions, coming off a 2yr/$18m contract. (If this thread is about values - he'll come for fair market value...)
I'd be ok give Deni but I don't see Wiz moving him. Not a fan of sloMo. Don't think he fits here.
martin@ 4/30/2024 10:20 AM
Nalod wrote:Deni is the love child of Gallo and Grayson Allen? Only do comps to other white guys Curious if he has the "Thibian Dog" in him on defense. The intelligence on defense is a must.
I think he is rated as one of the top 5-10 best wing defenders in the league. Pure Thibs guy.
Deni does not have the burst or strength of Hart but his offense is more diverse and he is more in the mold of DDV/iHart in terms of scoring versus passing: He'd rather pass than score himself but if he needs to, he'll score in bunches.
"All in" has so many meanings but I'd be all-in on this dude with more than 1 first round pick plus a player like Bogey. I'd go as far as Bogey (who Wash can use on team and/or trade), their future #1 that we own, one of the firsts this year and perhaps another low level one. That's how far I'd go.
He fits too well with what the Knicks are doing and what Thibs needs, trusts as a coach.
He is also too redundant and I'd agree with others on that point. But you just don't stop at that point when you make roster decisions (see the DDV signing when you have Deuce, IQ, Grimes, Josh on team). Deni would make the team uber flexible in terms of injury, future trades, long term growth (guy is 23).
Nalod@ 4/30/2024 11:25 AM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Deni is the love child of Gallo and Grayson Allen? Only do comps to other white guys Curious if he has the "Thibian Dog" in him on defense. The intelligence on defense is a must.
I think he is rated as one of the top 5-10 best wing defenders in the league. Pure Thibs guy.
Deni does not have the burst or strength of Hart but his offense is more diverse and he is more in the mold of DDV/iHart in terms of scoring versus passing: He'd rather pass than score himself but if he needs to, he'll score in bunches.
"All in" has so many meanings but I'd be all-in on this dude with more than 1 first round pick plus a player like Bogey. I'd go as far as Bogey (who Wash can use on team and/or trade), their future #1 that we own, one of the firsts this year and perhaps another low level one. That's how far I'd go.
He fits too well with what the Knicks are doing and what Thibs needs, trusts as a coach.
He is also too redundant and I'd agree with others on that point. But you just don't stop at that point when you make roster decisions (see the DDV signing when you have Deuce, IQ, Grimes, Josh on team). Deni would make the team uber flexible in terms of injury, future trades, long term growth (guy is 23).
Good point. A strong organization promotes from within. Grimes was developing but DDV made him expendable. DDV EARNED the job from Grimes. Deuce made IQ expendable. Few if any fans saw it. We loved IQ and could not imagine giving him the 20mm or lose him for nothing. Its ok, we got Randle and Brunson for about nothing and teams don't get full compensation in trades. As long as a team is succeeding the mistakes are rarely spoken. We gave up a lot to get OG but Precious has done well and OG has been amazing when he plays.
