Knicks · [GT 5/6/24 7:30PM TNT] R2G1 Knicks vs Pacers (page 2)

DLeethal @ 5/6/2024 1:51 PM
The biggest thing is whether we can hold them under 110-115 points during this series. Knicks don't have a lot of horses to score 120+ points with these guys.

IMO, we need to get Burks going off the bench and hope he can give us Bogie production and we need to keep games under 115 points.

VDesai @ 5/6/2024 2:11 PM
Rookie wrote:your crew for tonights game:

Zach Zarba (#15), Tyler Ford (#39), Sean Wright (#4), Ray Acosta (#54)

None of these guys stand out or are memorable to me

Short memory? Zarba reffed Game 3 in Philly - the worst reffing of the series

Rookie @ 5/6/2024 2:14 PM
VDesai wrote:
Rookie wrote:your crew for tonights game:

Zach Zarba (#15), Tyler Ford (#39), Sean Wright (#4), Ray Acosta (#54)

None of these guys stand out or are memorable to me

Short memory? Zarba reffed Game 3 in Philly - the worst reffing of the series

I was in Sicily. I didn't see the game.

fishmike @ 5/6/2024 2:34 PM
DLeethal wrote:
franco12 wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
franco12 wrote:We were 1 & 2 against the pacers in the regular season. I don’t see the Knicks advancing in this series- not trying to be a hater- I think we were able to grind out one series and expecting us, short handed, to do it again what is arguably a team better than the sixers and healthier than us- it’s just asking to much.

I’m worried we drop tonight’s game- hope I am wrong.

In what world is Indiana better than Philly. Philly entered playoffs on an 8 game winning streak and had a 60+ win pace with Embiid.

OG didn't play any of the games versus Indy this year. One game against them occurred the night of the trade and we barely had anyone available, with Fournier and Taj playing big minutes. Taj STARTED another game against them this year. Precious started at the 4 two games against them this year, an experiment that has ended for the most part.

We never really played them during a good stretch at all. Record on paper doesn't mean that much without context.

Embid was on one leg in the play offs. Sorry. He still was great, but a shell of himself.

We’ll see. I hope I am wrong.

They won 8 straight to go into the playoffs with that same Embiid. He still dropped a 50 piece and 39 in game 6. And Maxey played at a superstar level.

dude Franco is the guy literally posted "I fell asleep and didnt watch the 2nd half"

Phili's 2 best players are better than anyone Indy has, and the Pacers have not seen a defense like ours probably ever. They are well coached and surely have some firepower. They can produce wild shooting nights.

Most interesting thing to me is how Thibs guards Turner. He's the one guy who we dont have a straight forward answer for. We have players literally lab grown to deal with Pascal an Hali.

fishmike @ 5/6/2024 2:38 PM
btw Embiid put up 33/11/6 on phucking one leg!

He was slowed on defense (obviously) but this notion that we skated past a hobbled Embiid is slander. That guy was a monster and aside from being a douche put up MVP numbers.

Rookie @ 5/6/2024 2:54 PM
I’m prepared to say fucking McConnell at least 10x
fishmike @ 5/6/2024 4:23 PM
DLeethal wrote:The biggest thing is whether we can hold them under 110-115 points during this series. Knicks don't have a lot of horses to score 120+ points with these guys.

IMO, we need to get Burks going off the bench and hope he can give us Bogie production and we need to keep games under 115 points.

this series will say alot about this group. We are obviously down a few key parts. That is understood.

I also think the Knicks can score. Too many eyes on our offense vs. Phili

Do we see Indy playing anything like that? I think a big part of the reason we see guys like OG/DD/Josh and McBride score more is these guys are just not a very good defensive team

Chandler @ 5/6/2024 4:26 PM
knicks need to do what they do. rebound, take care of the ball, hustle, team D

go knicks!!

VDesai @ 5/6/2024 4:26 PM
Rookie wrote:I’m prepared to say fucking McConnell at least 10x

I hope McConnell does less damage this series than Cam Payne the last series

ToddTT @ 5/6/2024 4:55 PM
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franco12 @ 5/6/2024 5:05 PM
VDesai wrote:
Rookie wrote:your crew for tonights game:

Zach Zarba (#15), Tyler Ford (#39), Sean Wright (#4), Ray Acosta (#54)

None of these guys stand out or are memorable to me

Short memory? Zarba reffed Game 3 in Philly - the worst reffing of the series

franco12 @ 5/6/2024 5:09 PM
fishmike wrote:btw Embiid put up 33/11/6 on phucking one leg!

He was slowed on defense (obviously) but this notion that we skated past a hobbled Embiid is slander. That guy was a monster and aside from being a douche put up MVP numbers.

And if he had been healthy, I’m not sure we got by them.

LivingLegend @ 5/6/2024 5:09 PM
ToddTT wrote:

Huskers

LivingLegend @ 5/6/2024 5:10 PM
ToddTT wrote:

This seems like an OKC type 2nd city move - not a fan- seems like a jinx move.

LivingLegend @ 5/6/2024 5:13 PM
franco12 wrote:
VDesai wrote:
Rookie wrote:your crew for tonights game:

Zach Zarba (#15), Tyler Ford (#39), Sean Wright (#4), Ray Acosta (#54)

None of these guys stand out or are memorable to me

Short memory? Zarba reffed Game 3 in Philly - the worst reffing of the series

Read a stat today that Knicks were home (higher seeded) team in 6 series all-time where they lost game 1 at home and our record in those series is 0-6.

So tonight is extremely important and seeing that Zarba record is a tad concerning.

franco12 @ 5/6/2024 5:15 PM
fishmike wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
franco12 wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
franco12 wrote:We were 1 & 2 against the pacers in the regular season. I don’t see the Knicks advancing in this series- not trying to be a hater- I think we were able to grind out one series and expecting us, short handed, to do it again what is arguably a team better than the sixers and healthier than us- it’s just asking to much.

I’m worried we drop tonight’s game- hope I am wrong.

In what world is Indiana better than Philly. Philly entered playoffs on an 8 game winning streak and had a 60+ win pace with Embiid.

OG didn't play any of the games versus Indy this year. One game against them occurred the night of the trade and we barely had anyone available, with Fournier and Taj playing big minutes. Taj STARTED another game against them this year. Precious started at the 4 two games against them this year, an experiment that has ended for the most part.

We never really played them during a good stretch at all. Record on paper doesn't mean that much without context.

Embid was on one leg in the play offs. Sorry. He still was great, but a shell of himself.

We’ll see. I hope I am wrong.

They won 8 straight to go into the playoffs with that same Embiid. He still dropped a 50 piece and 39 in game 6. And Maxey played at a superstar level.

dude Franco is the guy literally posted "I fell asleep and didnt watch the 2nd half"

Phili's 2 best players are better than anyone Indy has, and the Pacers have not seen a defense like ours probably ever. They are well coached and surely have some firepower. They can produce wild shooting nights.

Most interesting thing to me is how Thibs guards Turner. He's the one guy who we dont have a straight forward answer for. We have players literally lab grown to deal with Pascal an Hali.

I did watch the game, btw - not live because I value life and this group has been the Cardiac Squad.

I hope I am wrong. But we were 1 & 2 against the Pacers.

We just can’t continue to get back with JB carrying all of the scoring load and no one else contributing. We need Dante and we need someone else to step up. I get that the Pacers are not a strong defensive group.

ToddTT @ 5/6/2024 7:25 PM
Chuck is either stupid, or he just says stupid shit to troll.
technomaster @ 5/6/2024 7:32 PM
I've been struggling for the last few days on why I think the Knicks should definitely beat the Pacers.

Indiana has 2 legit all-stars in Siakim & Halliburton. Myles Turner isn't that far from it in a league with a dearth of power big men.

Yet somehow all of the experts at ESPN picked the Knicks. The Knicks have Brunson and the gang. OG, JHart, Hartenstein, and Hartenstein are all pretty good players, whose best asset is their collective scrappiness. And Mitch is rounding into shape. McBride is emerging as a 3&D pest with some upside.

Why the Knicks should have an easier time with the Pacers than the Sixers:
* There is no dominant presence like Embiid on this team. Embiid had face paralysis and knee that was oozing for the first few games, yet it took everything we had to contain him.
* There is no guard on the Pacers as quick and explosive as Maxey.
* Position by Position, we seem to match up reasonably well - we outsize them at center. If anyone knows Siakim's tendencies, it'd be his former teammates OG and Achiuwa especially, since he was likely matched up against him in practice daily. And we have enough scrappy play from McBride/Devo to give Halliburton different looks.

On the other hand...
* Turner had an excellent 1st round series - he was a bit too quick against Lopez and Portis. I'm not so worried about Hartenstein keeping up, but let's see if Mitch's overall conditioning and wonky ankle can keep up. On defense, Turner is an elite shot blocker and is far more mobile than the impaired Embiid.
* The Knicks may need to play a traditional PF in Achiuwa to match up with Siakim, which means someone on the Knicks (DiVincenzo/McBride) will have to sit, moving Hart to "SG". If this happens we may lose some shooting and spacing.
* Halliburton may not be as explosive as Maxey, but he just needs a step to cause the defense to cave in and make a pass - he doesn't need to blow all the way by you and get to the basket. It should be a different dynamic.
* The Indy supporting case on paper is quite deep.

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